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08-23-2013 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Multiple times. Did you read my post?

Any number of balls greater than 1 is poor etiquette.

2 balls is slightly better than 3 or 4 but if a group pulls up and sees you playing multiple balls and they are trying to get a twilight round in - they are going to get upset. Whether they should or not they just will. Because you are not playing by the rules and they are waiting on you. Waiting on a legit 4some is one thing. Waiting on some douche who thinks he's practicing for the city am is another.
so multiple times you have been stuck behind a single AND he's playing two balls (or four balls, lol) AND it slows you down (and you shoot a 100 or whatever). how is it this has not one time happened to me in my life and i've been golfing since I was 10?
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08-23-2013 , 11:24 PM
Is your home course a 9-hole course that is "play all day"? I doubt it. It can get crowded and people think play all day means just play 4 balls at once and clog it.

Is it really hard to believe a guy playing 1 ball will be held up by a guy playing 2-4 balls?

It's also happened at a nice course I play at. Some dude was taking his sweet time playing like 3 balls from the fiarway in drive range while I'm standing on the tee. He even saw me and kept taking his sweet time. I was pissed and very, very close to driving into him. From 250 yards he appeared to be a physically superior black man though so I gave it second thought. On a par 5 he told me to play through on my approach shot because he was "practicing for a tourney". He didn't even look like he broke 80 from what I could tell
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08-23-2013 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spgranger
So I'm sure this has been discussed before, but what do you do when someone very obviously hits into you?

Today I went out for a twilight 9 at my home course (just a college town muni, nothing special), and the course was pretty packed. In front of me was a Husband/Wife/preteen son group with a group of 4 or 5 in front of them and another 4-some in front of them... so nobody was going anywhere. That's ok, though- I can wait. As I'm walking off the tee box of #3 I see a 3-some behind me for the first time. It was slow going all the way, so they caught up to me pretty quick. #4 is a driveable par 4- ~300 give or take 10 yards depending on where the tees are, dead straight with traps guarding both sides of the front and a domed green. When I get up to the green to hit my shots (I had been playing 2 balls since I was still waiting on every tee shot playing those 2 balls per hole and I have an annual pass anyway so I don't feel like I'm cheating the course) the group in front of me is still on the tee box. As I finish putting out and am walking off the front of the green I hear a thump behind me (like, towards the middle of the green) and sure enough the group behind me drove the green with me standing on it. Now, to be clear- the green is entirely 100% visible from the tee, as well as the next tee box (so they could very clearly see that there was a group in front of me). I was kind of stunned because I didn't think there was anyone that would be ridiculous enough to hit into someone in a spot like that. After I thought about it for a second I picked up his ball, waved at him, then threw it into the woods. Then a second player from the group stepped up and teed off, again landing it <10 yards from me (not quite on the green this time, but over the front right bunker onto the fringe. I again waved and tossed the second one into the woods.

As I'm standing on the next tee waiting to tee off the first guy to hit into me drives up in his cart and "apologized", as in he's sorry that I played so slow. I pretty much told him that if it happened again I would throw it again, and that if he can't see that I'm not the one holding him up then he doesn't belong on a golf course. He wasn't pleased, obviously, but what can you do?

Anyway, my question is what would you do in that situation? I mean, there is no doubt 100% that he intentionally hit aiming essentially for the spot that I was standing and he could see me standing there. To me that's an open act of aggression and I have a lot of trouble just letting it go by without doing anything. I know some people step on the ball and smash it into the turf in that situation, but the ball was on the green and that's not really that much of a punishment anyway. I just wonder if there is a significant number of people that would honestly just let it go without doing anything other than telling them they shouldn't do that.
Mistakes were obviously made by both sides here.

Here are a couple of unwritten rules. 1, if you are waiting it's perfectly fine to play more than one ball. 2, if players are behind you and waiting for any reason it is not OK to play more than one ball.

Yes, even if you play two balls the group behind will finish at about the same pace, but this is a moot point. It's just something you simply do not do. If they are waiting, you play your one ball and go on. Nothing more. This is just the way it's done.

Naturally the group behind should not have hit into you, the first guy could possibly be excused since he might have thoughts there was no way to get there. No excuse at all for the second guy, you never intentionally hit into people no matter what. No matter what.

That being said, throwing the first ball off the green is exceptionally juvenile. No reason whatsoever for that unless you know for an absolute fact the guy intentionally hit into you. And in this case there is no reason to know this. Don't blame you for being pissed about the second ball.

One question though, why were you walking off the front of the green as opposed to the side or the back? This is a major no-no as it makes the group behind have to wait even longer.

All that being said, I can understand the instant rage that bubbles up when almost hit by a golf ball for any reason. I've been on both ends of this accidental situation and it just sucks for everybody.

BO
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08-24-2013 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Mistakes were obviously made by both sides here.

Here are a couple of unwritten rules. 1, if you are waiting it's perfectly fine to play more than one ball. 2, if players are behind you and waiting for any reason it is not OK to play more than one ball.

Yes, even if you play two balls the group behind will finish at about the same pace, but this is a moot point. It's just something you simply do not do. If they are waiting, you play your one ball and go on. Nothing more. This is just the way it's done.

Naturally the group behind should not have hit into you, the first guy could possibly be excused since he might have thoughts there was no way to get there. No excuse at all for the second guy, you never intentionally hit into people no matter what. No matter what.

That being said, throwing the first ball off the green is exceptionally juvenile. No reason whatsoever for that unless you know for an absolute fact the guy intentionally hit into you. And in this case there is no reason to know this. Don't blame you for being pissed about the second ball.

One question though, why were you walking off the front of the green as opposed to the side or the back? This is a major no-no as it makes the group behind have to wait even longer.

All that being said, I can understand the instant rage that bubbles up when almost hit by a golf ball for any reason. I've been on both ends of this accidental situation and it just sucks for everybody.

BO
A couple things-

1. I did not see that they had gotten to the tee box or I would not have played my second ball onto the green. I generally do follow the "if someone behind you is waiting, even if you can't go anywhere, don't play two balls" guideline.

2. I was walking off the front of the green because I was walking this round and it would have taken me more time to walk my bag to the back side of the green then walk all the way back across with my wedge/putter than it would to just stop at my ball on the front side of the green.

3. I agree that it was juvenile for me to throw his ball, but I was fairly certain he intentionally hit into me, and he confirmed as much when he drove up to "apologize" (for me getting in the way of his tee shot).

I feel a little bad about stooping to his level, but I still don't think he should have gotten to play that ball.
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08-24-2013 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by spgranger
A couple things-

1. I did not see that they had gotten to the tee box or I would not have played my second ball onto the green. I generally do follow the "if someone behind you is waiting, even if you can't go anywhere, don't play two balls" guideline.

2. I was walking off the front of the green because I was walking this round and it would have taken me more time to walk my bag to the back side of the green then walk all the way back across with my wedge/putter than it would to just stop at my ball on the front side of the green.

3. I agree that it was juvenile for me to throw his ball, but I was fairly certain he intentionally hit into me, and he confirmed as much when he drove up to "apologize" (for me getting in the way of his tee shot).

I feel a little bad about stooping to his level, but I still don't think he should have gotten to play that ball.
Sounds as though you're pretty much where you should be then, tough to do things right all the time.

One small note about #2 above, whether it's right or wrong, when people see the group in front walking back to the front of the green to gather their clubs it could be irritating. It's usually better to place your bag pin high to one side of the green, then when you walk off you grab your clubs and don't have to walk on the green again.

But not saying you did anything wrong, just offering another possibility where the perception from behind is better.

BO
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08-24-2013 , 10:48 AM
Is my wife trolling me here?

She asked that I not golf this weekend because she wanted to have a day to herself, and I could stay home with the baby. No problem, of course I love my son I want to hang out with him. Well today she tells me she is leaving at noon with my son to go with her family for the day, meanwhile saying she still wants me to take a weekend off from golfing.


The best part:

She has mentioned at least 7 times already how beautiful it is outside. Tough spot here.
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08-24-2013 , 11:05 AM
WAT? She must be pissed at you about something you did 4 years ago and it's just now surfacing.
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08-24-2013 , 11:07 AM
Golf now dot com. Find an afternoon hot deal at a new course.
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08-24-2013 , 11:01 PM
I don't know what her reason is for this, but when my wife does something that doesn't make any sense its usually that time of the month....
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08-24-2013 , 11:08 PM
I dont know I played her game, built up some wife credit, cashing that **** in tomorrow when I go play 36.
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08-25-2013 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EdBratz66
Is my wife trolling me here?

She asked that I not golf this weekend because she wanted to have a day to herself, and I could stay home with the baby. No problem, of course I love my son I want to hang out with him. Well today she tells me she is leaving at noon with my son to go with her family for the day, meanwhile saying she still wants me to take a weekend off from golfing.


The best part:

She has mentioned at least 7 times already how beautiful it is outside. Tough spot here.
The best part is if you bring it up tomorrow and say "So yeah, what was the reason you wanted me to stay home all day?", you're immediately the bad guy and she's going to go ape-**** about how you're trying to make her feel guilty or some nonsense You did well. Leave it as is =P
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08-25-2013 , 04:03 PM
Did you miss her birthday? Anniversary?
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08-25-2013 , 06:28 PM
Anyone here play Streamsong in FL yet? Another Coore/Crenshaw that looks off the hook.

I think I am going in Nov
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08-25-2013 , 07:43 PM
Went to the range and had a really good day striking. Hit everything pretty solidly. Driver, hybrid off the deck, long irons (3i+) on and off the deck, and wedges. Usually one or two things fails me on the range.

Still working on fixing my grip. Used to forward press a ton with my irons and play them way back in my stance and I'm slowly working on playing them forward and having much less forward press if any. It feels funny but when I hit them good it feels really good and I feel that nice good pinch on the ball with a great divot. Just need to keep working and get more consistency. Kinda want to fix this before playing a round again but we'll see.

Noticed I was hitting my wedges wayyy higher than normal. Way the **** up in the air, which is a good sign. Though I was hitting directly into a really strong wind but still I never used to hit my wedges that high before since I was hooding my clubface. This should help hold more greens. Some of my other irons shots were going higher too, just not as consistently or noticeably. I did rip a 5i that started low and rose beautifully way out there and straight. Man I wish I could hit every shot like that!

Also was a bit more athletic with my irons. Had a little waggle going and just forgot about my line once I was over the ball and just focused on staying loose and focusing on the ball and just letting it rip. Also helps that it wasn't 100 degrees with 60% humidity for the first time in months.

Some guy a few stalls down had the same driver as me (RBZ tour 9) and he was hitting several of them. I hit about 6 out of 90 balls and smoked most of them. You could tell the ball coming off my club sounded way better than his. That's always nice!

Last edited by A-Rod's Cousin; 08-25-2013 at 07:49 PM.
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08-25-2013 , 08:32 PM
Played today, had a case of the pulls all day, still can't pitch around the green when I have no green to work with. Shot a 100 on the dot. Have a big match coming up Saturday. Any ideas why I'd be pulling the ball? Does it mean my left wrist isn't firm through the ball, or I am I just yanking it?
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08-25-2013 , 08:43 PM
just aim right and go full steam ahead
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08-25-2013 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Went to the range and had a really good day striking. Hit everything pretty solidly. Driver, hybrid off the deck, long irons (3i+) on and off the deck, and wedges. Usually one or two things fails me on the range.

Still working on fixing my grip. Used to forward press a ton with my irons and play them way back in my stance and I'm slowly working on playing them forward and having much less forward press if any. It feels funny but when I hit them good it feels really good and I feel that nice good pinch on the ball with a great divot. Just need to keep working and get more consistency. Kinda want to fix this before playing a round again but we'll see.

Noticed I was hitting my wedges wayyy higher than normal. Way the **** up in the air, which is a good sign. Though I was hitting directly into a really strong wind but still I never used to hit my wedges that high before since I was hooding my clubface. This should help hold more greens. Some of my other irons shots were going higher too, just not as consistently or noticeably. I did rip a 5i that started low and rose beautifully way out there and straight. Man I wish I could hit every shot like that!

Also was a bit more athletic with my irons. Had a little waggle going and just forgot about my line once I was over the ball and just focused on staying loose and focusing on the ball and just letting it rip. Also helps that it wasn't 100 degrees with 60% humidity for the first time in months.

Some guy a few stalls down had the same driver as me (RBZ tour 9) and he was hitting several of them. I hit about 6 out of 90 balls and smoked most of them. You could tell the ball coming off my club sounded way better than his. That's always nice!
If you are that happy with your game from the range, then you should be spending a ****load more time around the green. Like spend 90% of your practice time within 10 yards of the green.

Do this and thank me later.
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08-25-2013 , 10:25 PM
I'm redoing my irons swings. It's gonna take a while. Though my short game isn't great - I am not redoing anything fundamental with pitching, chipping, or putting.
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08-25-2013 , 10:39 PM
I guess it's just my opinion, but it's easiest to learn ball striking through chipping and pitching. You wouldn't try to bench press 300 pounds before you could do 200, would you?
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08-26-2013 , 08:18 PM
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I'm redoing my irons swings. It's gonna take a while. Though my short game isn't great - I am not redoing anything fundamental with pitching, chipping, or putting.
Far easier to make your short game better and more consistent than your long game. There are loads of 20+ h/caps at my club who rarely/never practice their short game, and miss the easiest way to get their h/c down.

One mid-20s player told me (with a serious face) that he didn't need to practice his short game because once he got his new custom-fit irons he would be making most of the greens in reg.

He sold his new irons within about two months and got another set as the last ones didn't do that for him...
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08-26-2013 , 08:22 PM
I'm not worried about getting my 26 handicap down to an 18 vanity cap. Do you see why? Right now I'm trying to hold the irons correctly instead of like a dumbass with 14 inches of forward press.

I appreciate what you're saying though. I realize fully how important short game is. Doesn't change the fact that I'd like to hit my irons like a non-idiot.
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08-26-2013 , 08:43 PM
So I'm playing vs a 9 handicap in match play at a course called the Ledges in Maine. I'm a 21 but my course handicap is a 25. We decided I will get 14 strokes. 1 per hole for 14 holes. I've been playing my best golf, but still yet to break 90. I don't think this guy knows what is in store for him. We are playing a little longer than I'd like 6400 from the blues, but my advantage is I never lose balls. He can out drive me by 30-40 yards, but also can spray it. I think if I can get up 2 or 3 holes I will put the pressure on. Just gonna play my lazy 220 fade, down the middle, then a nice easy 4I, chip and 2 putt. That's my strategy.
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08-26-2013 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EdBratz66
Just gonna play my lazy 220 fade, down the middle, then a nice easy 4I, chip and 2 putt. That's my strategy.
If you can execute that strategy it will be pretty much impossible for a 9 handicap to beat you when they are giving you 14 shots.
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08-26-2013 , 08:58 PM
If he can execute that strategy then he's not a 21.
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08-26-2013 , 10:21 PM
Clearly I'm going to have my few 8's and 10's I typically put up. Hence my inability to break 90.
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