The best thing about playing golf with wiper must be that he'll show you cameraphone pics of his scantily-clad wife throughout the round.

If you ever want to play a round on a weekday (or weekend I guess) that I can get cheap at golf now let me know wiper. I am in Rocky River so I usually play somewhere on this side of town, I am not that great though but get bored of golfing alone.

Wrong thread dude

Well, you know old guys like me don't understand internet message boards any more than we do sports betting. Besides, I've had a ****ton of Dr. Pepper tonight so it's the equivalent of most people posting drunk.

And I know you haven't played golf in a month or so seeing as how it's always above 80 degrees this time of year.

BO

Really looking forward to Larry David on Feherty tonight.

Also, anyone else see Lee Westwood's twitter meltdown last night?

Pretty solid.

haven't played deer pass, I do have a friend that grew up near there so I can ask him.

one thing I can say that he was amazed about when he moved down here (youngstown/warren area) is that courses are much, much cheaper down this way.

the metro courses up there and basically any course worth playing are all in the mid-40's for 18/cart. around here, there are 6-8 good courses that are in the mid 20's. he was amazed at the price difference.

dunno how far you are from this area, but depending on the gas, courses around here or even kent/akron may be more in your price range and at least equal to if not better than the courses in/around cleveland..

she sends obnoxiously long texts knowing I'm golfing..I'll respond back "dude I'm golfing" and then she'll send the hurry home pics..lol

Obviously in terms of a meltdown I totally understand how he feels. People tweeting about his career that don't play or understand golf has got to be frustrating in the first person.

However, this nit just doesn't understand why people tweet, especially those in the public spotlight. Not much good can come of that, it's just throwing fuel out there for randoms to use.

BO

Jesus it's rare to find an acceptable course that offers sub $40 rounds (18 and cart) around here and there are a lot of complete trash courses that charge $50+..mid 20s would be awesome

you could play a new, 'acceptable' course every day of the week here for under $30.

Australia does it.

cool I will look into that

Bandon too

Some questions about handicaps:

I understand what a handicap is supposed to measure, how it's supposed to indicate your potential in any given round. What I don't understand, however, is how the USGA ensures that the handicap is accurate. From what I understand, you can get a handicap by submitting scores for X rounds, using some formula, etc. But how do people know that you have actually kept the correct score, and are not artificially lowering or raising your handicap? When a course advertises handicap services, do they actually send someone out with you for 20 rounds to make sure you are reporting real scores? Or is it just self-reported?

In chess, scrabble, and foosball, for example, ratings/rankings are determined based on performance in tournaments where everyone can see how you perform. While rating manipulation/sandbagging is possible, it's harder when many people are scrutinizing your performance. It seems like it would be much easier to manipulate your handicap in golf.

It's up to the player to be honest and for their peers to hold them to that standard. For a club to issue a handicap they are supposed to have a handicap committee that oversees the system, although that doesn't always happen in practice.

If someone wants to manipulate their handicap it's quite easy, but usually these jackasses simply hang themselves by playing nowhere close to their supposed number.

Scrabble eh? You won't find it surprising at all this Jeopardy freak has dabbled in competitive Scrabble.

BO

I wonder this too. I play to a 26 handicap, but in match play I am virtually unbeatable. The other day I shot a 39 on the front getting a stroke a hole, but blew up my back 9 with a 58. So while I can put together enough good holes, I always have a few blowups that ruin my score.

So basically you just explained why you are unbeatable in match play. Do you understand why that would be?

BO

What was your peak rating in scrabble? Are you still active?

Because he has his opponents drawing dead after the front 9?

Not every 26 handicap translates the same to match play. I'm also a 26 and it sounds like Ed would kill me in match play because my round is more "double-double-bogey-par-bogey" and his sounds more like "par-par-par-septuple-sextuple-birdie". He probably gets to use ESC more than my also, which keeps his handicap down. In stroke play, his gross scoring is likely even higher than mine, yet he'd probably wipe me in match play.

lol. Obviously in match play those mega blowups don't hurt you much at all. And if you are getting a stroke a hole and already make par most of the time then you are logging a bunch of net birdies.

I'd definitely rather have Ed's version of a 26 though because it's easier to clean up a few huge blowups than it is to clean up around the greens on like every hole. If he can get out of trouble then his cap will go lower than mine quicker.

No clue, certainly nothing to brag about. It was mostly just a lark for a time after playing semi-serious since childhood and reading Wordfreak. Although I did beat our club director one night who was a national judge at the time, probably still is for that matter. Definitely memorized lots of lists, 3's, 4's, (already knew the 2's) bingo stems, vowel dumps, etc. High game was just over 500. Super cool stuff for someone in their mid 20's at the time.



Nope. Talking overall about his game, not just that one round.

BO

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

I'd say because I have the ability at variable times to play to a 15 handicap, but I either don't have the stamina, or the mental toughness right now to put it all together. If I judged my cap based on front 9's I'd be in the teens probably.

Nope, it's because apparently you have more blowup holes than a typical 26. In match play it doesn't matter if you lose a hole with a 6 or a 10, but in stroke play you have to count that 10.

BO

So tell me, I'm playing a 7 handicap on Saturday is it unfair for him to give me a stroke a hole?