lol yeah...i mean if they actually hit/hurt you, you can sue them.

I play really fast at times, and am the "walker" people want to play through the rest of the time, so I really see it both ways. You do have a duty to let people play through as the slow player, but at the same time, the fast player has to be a little bit patient. I'm not going to ruin my round of golf for you. Just because you play from the up tees and are sitting 60 yards out in the fairway looking all impatient doesn't mean I'm not going to mark my ball, line up my putt and try and make it like a normal golfing human. I'll let you through on the next tee.

The other thing that is infuriating is the drive up fast player. I've been waiting on the 5-some for 8 straight holes with no one behind me. They hit their drive on no. 9 and take forever in the fairway, finally hit into the green and I start to tee off. And here comes Mr. Jackass driving up 5 feet away from the tee box acting like I'm the problem because I'm walking. No I'm not letting you through and no I'm not going to rush. And yes I'm going to back off my drive and look at you when you click the brake on in my backswing. Happens all of the goddamn time.

As the fast player, you have a duty to be courteous too. I think it's your right to play through slower players, but you have to know that as a single in a golf cart, you are going to lap the field, and that's your fault. You have to give the guys ahead of you ample opportunity to let you through and if it's clear they are being giant dickheads, then you drive up and ask them if they mind if you go ahead. If they are still dickheads, call the proshop. Your rights are somewhat limited if they are within the "4some in a cart" reasonable time frame. 5-somes/4 walkers/slow playing hacks all need to let you through pretty fast. A rule of thumb is that if you can drive the ball past them without them noticing, call the pro-shop. (I have done this before).

i think anything from the back tees par 70+ counts.

if you play a non-back tee, it has to be par 70+ and >6,000 yards.

I can shoot some ******o score at my course from the up tees but that shouldn't count. But at the same time, I played a course here in town that is 6k yards from the back tees and I think it has to count because it's like a 1900's throwback course with 100 square foot greens and stuff, so it's not as easy as a normal course from 6k yards (still easy though!).

I have no problems skipping a hole after a couple of holes of waiting on the slower group to allow us to play through (if we're sure they are the 'problem'). Sometimes we get dirty looks and some mumbling... don't care. We just play 2 balls on a comparable hole later. Not sure why this isn't done more. Just like driving a car... people slower than you are idiots, people faster than you are maniacs... everyone's idea of pace of play is different.

I was playing as a single on a notoriously empty golf course when I got to this par 4. I hit my shot down the fairway and walked to my ball. As I stood there waiting for the green to clear I hear a really loud whistle followed by CRACK; the twosome behind me decided to give me a half second warning before teeing off right at me. The guys ball lands like 10 yards to my right and I get ready for a fight as they're driving down to me. I absolutely ****ing freaked out on this guy when he got to me; he told me I had a chance to let them through on the previous hole, but I didn't even know I had a group behind me. It's probably the only time I was close to knocking someone out on the course.
Anyway, after arguing for a few minutes I told the guy to get the **** out of my face and play on.. He hit one of the worst iron shots I have ever seen and I heckled the **** out of him "NICE ****ING SHOT BUDDY".

i swear i'm fun to play with!

I was once in a situation where golf clubs were drawn. It wasn't me with the club drawn though, so I just walked away slowly and everything ended peacefully.

One other time a person driving by stopped their VAN and called me a F***OT, I immediately pulled my 3 iron out and started sprinting across the fairway directly at them. I wasn't actually going to do anything but they rolled up the windows and peeled off. It was hilarious.

If you just hit your drives farther no one can hit into you.

Sounds like you have a problem learn to hit the ball farther.

When one-touch ban & clean didn't work, I was like: wait, what? I guess the best spam accounts are like fine wine: aged to perfection.

i couldn't take public golf anymore, kind of sad since my wife and i built a house on an upscale daily fee golf course two years ago.... but a few of my neighbors in my development joined a close-by private course last year and i've been over there a lot this year with them... earlier this week i made the jump and i'm a member now... feels sooooo good

I was doing some drills in my house during the week and started thinking about my grip etc, along with the recent hand issue I kind of had to monkey around with it to get it comfortable and I thought about how open my grip is.

My left hand seems find but my right hand seemed very open, and while it felt comfortable I could tell that it likely hurt me if I didnt get proper wrist roll more so than with a different grip.. so I did some googling...

This is what my gripped looked like (online stock photo)



...and my RH was probably even more open

So I started taking swings in drills with this grip


and while it did not feel great (what really does in golf at first it seems) I could tell I was rolling the wrist better and this would stop me from leaving the face open more so..

Instead of testing it out at the range I took it right to the course and hit the most FIRs I have all year with 2 others in the first cut of rough and 2 just through some doglegs, I didnt hit any big slices like I would occasionally and even on my irons I hit some really good shots particularly on one where I was just off in the first cut and just over 170 away, I hit a nice 6i up hill to 15 feet dead at the pin and 2 putted for par.

I also hit a bunch of other nice shots overall, and while my score didnt reflect it ... it will soon

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Ok, this is fine as long as I get a refund. Otherwise Satan better GTFO of the way because I'm playing through if there are open holes and he's not keeping up with the posted pace of play that your mere presence on the course indicates you agree to keep up with. Sorry, but golf is expensive. I'm not wasting my money because you are slow.

Got hit into today, was on 18 oddly enough... only time 4some pulled up behind us with any delay was on #3 and the group in front of us had just teed off and were driving out to their balls so it was a non issue IMO..... A couple of times they were just getting to the tee box when we were wrapping up our 2nd shots but we were waiting for people in front of us so again nothing we could...

We get to 18, which is a big blind dogleg that with a standard shot you can clear the trees and cut it big time

BUT

I had hit a straight shot that rolled through the fairway and I was standing directly in eyeline of the tee box while my buddy who hit same shot but through and a bit down a hill was hitting. I am lining up my shot (165yd 7i which I hit to the front fring BTW) and I hear the usual driver sound and turn back and the guy teed off while I was ~265 away, he was trying to cut the corner where the other 2 had hit and were sitting waiting for me to hit... I turned and looked and just gave a WTF look.

When I pulled up to the my buddies they asked me if they hit and I said yep, so the one guy walks over to the offending ball (had hit a tree and was just off on the left) and hammered it into the water/trees etc.... (feel free to state how wrong this is I know you want to)

Funniest thing is we look back when we are all on the green and they are feverishly looking for the ball for like 5 minutes. Also noticed another guy had at one point tee'd off when the one guy was hitting an approach shot and it landed ~20yds behind him.

...I was reallllllly hoping they said something to me in the parking lot or something, but alas they didnt.

Been putting a lot of work in on my lag putting. Really digging the 72bpm pendulum stroke. Tried 76 but it felt a bit too rushed for me. My consistency is getting so much better. Can't wait to take it out to the course but I want to put more work in and feel comfortable. I had no idea wtf I was doing before. Prob. still don't but whatevs.

This is where you take that same 3 iron and rip a low screamer at their rear window.

I am the mildest mannered person you're ever going to meet. I haven't so much as shaken a fist in anger in at least 20 years...

And if you ever hit into me on purpose you run a very real risk of having a 3 iron wrapped around your ****ing neck and eating the rest of your meals with a straw. I'm completely serious about that. I'm not going to kick your ball into the woods. I'm going to drive back to the tee and kick your ass into next week.

If a group is holding you up, it is perfectly acceptable to look annoyed. It's cool to ask them if they will let you through. It's kosher to ask the ranger to make them speed up or let you through. I wouldn't hold it against you if you called into the pro shop to complain. I've seen people skip to open holes, whatever.

But you never, ever, ever ****ing hit into someone intentionally.

Got it?

There are times when it happens unintentionally, when you're looking in the woods, when it's hard to judge what the distance is on an unfamiliar course, etc. Those things are forgivable.

I still have no ****ing idea how humidity can help your distance like people say. It's been like 90% humidity the last couple days and I've lost 30 yards on my drives. Plus it feels like I'm walking through a lake. Just doesn't make sense to me.

played saturday and sunday in the jungle weather we've had and haven't noticed any distance loss. iron distances are definitely not short, tough for me to gauge driver distance loss because i have like a 70 yard variation depending on the severity of my snap hook but i did hit a wind assisted ~330 yard drive today so that was nice

I swear to christ I'm bombing drives that feel like they are going to carry 290 and I walk up 270 yards to find my ball in its own ball mark. And all my irons are probably 1.5 clubs less than normal. Unless I aged 20 years in the last week, I'm very suspicious about those scientific findings.

There are perfectly acceptable times to hit into people. I can think of a couple times I have. Our course doesn't have a ranger and the pro doesn't give a **** about anything when we call in slow, disrespectful groups.

Me and my female friend (+3 handicap which is lol) played 9 holes on a Tuesday at 1pm in 2h45m behind a 4-some with carts whom we had to ask to play through twice on that side because they never waived us through, and they still wouldn't let us because there was a girl with me. So we try to rush to number 10 but they didn't stop in the clubhouse so we are still stuck behind them. I confront the guys again, all about in their early or late 40's, and they still say no with about a 3 hole gap in front of them. After a few cuss words spouted towards them they drive off. So I have to ask myself what is the better choice: kicking all of their asses or simply hitting a ball at them to get a point across? It only took 2 holes of me and my friend hitting into them for them to let us through.


Hitting into a group is more respectable than a lot of things I've seen at the golf course. It's also a better substitute to killing somebody in a fight while blinded by emotion and slamming their head into a pine tree several times.

Uhh... doesn't the former usually precede the latter? Again I ask, why is it so bad to just skip around a slow group? I mean, besides the feeling of entitlement of "I paid and I'm going to play the 18 holes exactly as they are designed." Just play 2 balls on a comparable hole and be done with it.

Because there's no reason to compromise your round for dickhead nazis that try to run a golf course. If you let them have power, they're going to keep it and reign until someone rebels.

Saw a baseball highlight earlier and Lance Berkman mashed a homer about 440 feet and they said "it's been really hot and humid in Cincinnati - that ball just floats on the humidity" lol. Humidity and relative humidity are two different things, since hot and cold air are capable of holding differing amounts of moisture. Still don't know if humidity helps or hurts anyway.

What is the general rule about skipping a hole then going back later to play it (if it's open)? At some crappy muni the sprinklers were on the first tee box when I rolled up so I waited for like 5 minutes then drove back and asked the guy if they are turning off and he was just like "awww yeah 'bout 10 minutes they'll be off and whatnot" so I head back and wait like an additional 10 minutes then just move on to hole 2 (a par 3). Finished up and the sprinklers were off so I went back to play it. The marshall there is a major ******* who always thinks people are stealing holes so I was half expecting him to roll up and cuss me out.

as i understand it, humid air has more hydrogen (h2o ldo) and hydrogen is obv the lightest element which means the air is less dense

There's got to be a max number where it just becomes too saturated and you can literally be walking through water though, right? Like when I stick my hand out the car window it accumulates water immediately. That would have to cause major drag on a golf ball.

Yeah rain hurts lol