It´s funny, cause in Denmark you always walk. You are not allowed to use cart unless you have a medical condition or otherwise restricted walking ability.

There are a lot of reasons why carts are so common in the U.S. --

For one, the terrain can be a lot different. A lot of courses have significant elevation changes.

For another, too many courses are designed as afterthoughts to housing developments, making for a very long walk between holes.

And by far the most important reason, course owners have discovered that they can make more money renting out carts.

I'm sure there are other reasons. A lot of people do walk when it's allowed (sadly, I'm not one of them as much as I would like), but to somehow require that golf be walking only would kill ~ half the courses in the U.S. imo.

Yeah, it is awful. Back when I played 4 years ago, the golf was at a much higher level in our part of the state. For example, my bro shot an 81 at a tournament and finished 3rd. I shot 81 at that same tournament, in awful wind, and finished 13th. We were also in class B back then instead of C. In my district, the winning score was a 290-something. That district was by far the toughest in the state. And you're right, getting focused while playing with a bunch of hackers would be real tough.

The disparity in golf is ridic.

In my high school years, you had to shoot ~312 at sectionals/districts to even have a sniffing chance at State. (though some weaker regions were around 330).

Then I graduate and scores balloon. Teams seem to have more single-stars who are capable of shooting under par, but are far less deep in talent. 340s are getting out of sectionals.

My age group had some studs who played D-1 golf though (Hawaii, OSU, Indiana, SMU, Louisville).

This is no different than here.

This makes sense, and it´s an issue we don´t experience much here. I didnt experience it in the US either (not arguing the fact though)

asfdgasf yeah it doesnt surprise me.

I´m not arguing that. There is also the fat factor in play i guess
But jokes aside, most things in the US is designed so that you don´t have to walk or stress yourself in any way.

One reason i understand that we are not allowed to use carts here, is that in most cases the space for our courses are very limited, aswell as we have so many enviromental laws to keep in mind.
In the US (where I have been) there are usefull cart "tarmac" around the course which helps limiting the damage on the course.

I certainly don't mean to be disrespectful but I've always thought that Denmark was quite flat. Do you have mountains?

If you play older courses it isn't as much of an issue. It's only in the last 30 years or so that courses have been so closely tied to housing developments (in my opinion).

You're right that there are a lot of things here that are designed for convenience. I can't say that I see that as a bad thing.

There is a fat factor but I think it's overrated - most fat people can walk a walkable golf course. It's not as if this is Olympic sport.

The country is quite flat, and we don´t have big mountains, but few courses in the world are put on a mountain side .

My first home course had a redic amount of blind shots and many places on fairways where the ball couldnt lie. However it´s as different here as most other places, some courses have many small hills as we have many areas of that nature, and others are more flat (like my current home course).


I´m not judging good or bad, I personally found it very convenient to use cart when I was in the US, and if anyone use it, it could speed up the game. But regarding the fat factor, I didnt really mean people are too fat to walk, or fatter than Danish golfers. It´s more a general mindset. In the US things are made in a convenient way and everything is big and/or motorised, why should golf be any different.

i'm so out of shape i would have trouble walking 18 holes right now (golf is the only regular exercise i've done in the past 3 years) and would probably quit if carts were no longer allowed. assuming courses were still attracting the same amount of people (thats probably a bad assumption though) pace of play would slow down even more and on weekends it would be unbearable, 5+ hour rounds ftl

I wish that would happen. As it happens, I find that the use of riding carts can actually slow the game down. A lot of people don't pay as much attention to being ready to play. They wait for their partner to hit, watch the shot, replace a divot (maybe), get back in the cart and drive 20 yards to their ball. It can be maddening.

But that's more about people not displaying proper golf manners than it is about golf carts.

I'm sure a lot of people would quit if carts were not allowed.

I don't walk very often - my course has a mandatory cart policy on weekends - but every once in a while it gets wet enough that they don't let carts out. I rarely play more than 9 holes when that's the case, but I find that even playing with out of shape guys we still make it around in 2 hours without any difficulty.

It's just my opinion and I have nothing to back it up but I don't think physical condition has anything to do with slow play - it's all about people who don't know how to conduct themselves on the golf course. I've played with 80 year old fossils who can barely shuffle down the fairway (electric trolley ftw?) that don't hold up play because they go to their ball and are ready to play when it's their turn.

(okay, the course can be to blame if they let too many people out, move tee times too close together and/or don't ever have a ranger to deal with slow play)

I´ll agree that golfing manner is more important than how fast you walk, and the best way to speed up the game would be if people could get their head out of their ass. The sad part is that this will not happen as the slow (bad manner) golfers rarely have to wait them self. The do their weekly 4 ball with three other ******s, and they are in a little world of their own.

But I HAVE to read my putt from all 360 degrees! They do it on the Tour!

Lol.

I agree. My dad told me this when I was young. "Son you have 2 options in golf, get good or be fast." So Im not very slow about making decisions (because Im not good).

My friend and I got paired with a guy who was slow as dirt. Measuring puts from every angle, 10 practice swings, ect... He shot something like 101 on a 69.5/112 type course. On hole 5 he gets par my friend and I bogied. Well he is busy in his cart and I tee up and hit my drive on hole 6. He said "You dont respect honors." My responce was "Pace of play deserves more respect than honors. There is no one infront of us for 3 holes and there are groups stacked up behind us. If you continue to play a 5 hour round of golf then no I do not respect your honor...SIR"

On a busy public course nothing is more important than pace of play.

That price wasn't even for 9 holes. It was for "play all day". So you can pay $10 green fee + $2 pull cart = $12 and play 36 holes if you wanted. And the course was in much better condition than my "home" course which is a muni that costs $21 (w/ cart) or $18 twilight (w/ cart). I think I might make this place my new "home" as I'm learning the game. And I could use more walking anyway. I'm OK with spending money on a good course but I hate doing so when I'm carrying such a high handicap. It kind of ruins the experience of playing a nice course. So until I get better I may as well save some money and be able to play more rounds.

I would have left him.

I play about 70 rounds of golf a year and walk about 65 of those rounds, I only cart if I'm forced to through golfnow or some similar deal. If a golf course tells me I can't walk it, I usually laugh and accept the challenge.

If you only finish 17 holes but wish to log a score how do you prorate it?

Say your course handicap is 35, and the 18th hole is rated as the easiest hole. Say it's a par 5. So you only get 1 stroke on that hole so if you've shot 100 through 17 do you add 6 for 18 giving you a total of 106 for the round?

I closed my eyes and tried to envision you playing that hole.

BTW hell of a drive and nice job holing out the 2nd shot from 205.

Great double eagle (now go write down 2).

Joking aside. Yes I think a 6 would be appropriate. You would give yourself a double on any hole other than the #18 handicap hole on the course.

This is not entirely accurate. While it's true that the vast majority of players walk there are lots of places where you can drive a buggy if you are willing to pay the ridiculous price of renting one.

Where in DK are you Number7? Let me know if you're interested in playing a round of golf, I'm a member in Skjoldenæsholm.

+1 million to this.

Also it slows play wayyyy down when you're not allowed to drive in the fairway or it's 90 degrees or whatever they call it when you're only allowed to use the path up to the point where your ball is in the fw and then cross over the fw to get to your ball.

In before someone makes fun of this

Yes, you would write down a 6 for handicap purposes. If it happened to be the hardest hole on the course, then you would write down a 7.

I walked 9 holes in 1.5 hours by myself and there was a group of 3 walking behind me that were on my tail the whole round.

Is it socially acceptable on a major dogleg to try to take a shortcut by hitting a drive on a direct line toward the green? On a hole I played yesterday it's 377 with the dogleg but if you try to rip a drive directly to the green it's only 305. The only thing beteween your tee box and the green are a set of blues and whites on another hole (and clear visibility to see if anyone is about to tee off there). You also only need to clear your drive about 210 to clear those tee boxes, which leaves no other obstructions other than trees between you and the green. The main reason I ask is because if you play for the fairway but hit it too hard it will roll oob very easily.

I'd say it's fine as long as no one is on the tee box you are hitting over.