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07-07-2022 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Got in two more very short sessions with the R10 this weekend. Went to a different range on Saturday evening but cut it off quickly when it started to rain -- didn't really want to have either the Garmin or my phone out. Got in a little longer session yesterday before my round mostly working on driver.

Two observations -- First, I think the total distance is running about 10% short compared to real world numbers, both with driver and with 7i (the only two clubs I've used so far). I'm going to make sure I have the most recent firmware and make sure any other calibration that needs to be done is handled. Second, if I want legit data I need to pay more attention to how I get it set up -- if it's not aligned correctly, is off kilter or whatever you get garbage direction numbers (and probably others too). I won't go back to the range I visited on Saturday because the ground is super uneven and the grass is not maintained well.
There were a handful of shots today whose carry deviation were completely wrong. For example, it said I was 29L when the ball clearly went way to the right. I got a notification that there may be radio signals in the area That could be affecting things. There were some about a thousand yards away, but most other stats seemed to be ok.
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07-08-2022 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
Went on a golfing trip to Poland (Gdansk) a few years ago - had a great time.

One of the courses had the first, and so far only, par 6 hole I've ever seen/played.
There was a course called Dodger Pines in Vero Beach that used to have one. They eventually replaced the course with condos
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07-09-2022 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
The app gives you data and pretty pictures but there is no way to combine the practice sessions. Each session is independent from the other. I'm not even sure what the point of "my bag" is. I thought that's where I would find the averages for each club, but no.

I was reading the Garmin forum and going back 10 months people suggested they add this option to the app. Well, without it I am left having to figure it out myself with paper and pencil! Maybe I am just venting right now and I will give it a little time, But if they have not implemented this by now I'm not very hopeful.
Still in beta testing, but this might be of interest.

So far I've been pretty happy just getting yardages and (haven't mentioned this before) video of my swing. I picked up on video a flaw in my grip, made a small change and it has definitely helped my ball striking. Given the inconsistency in how I've had it set up at the range (it's not the most level ground) I haven't worried too much about the other data. Will be more of a thing when I get a net or sim setup built this winter.
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07-10-2022 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Still in beta testing, but this might be of interest.

So far I've been pretty happy just getting yardages and (haven't mentioned this before) video of my swing. I picked up on video a flaw in my grip, made a small change and it has definitely helped my ball striking. Given the inconsistency in how I've had it set up at the range (it's not the most level ground) I haven't worried too much about the other data. Will be more of a thing when I get a net or sim setup built this winter.
That looks interesting! I'm a bit skeptical about loading 3rd party software these days, but if it's in the play store I would help them w/ the beta test.
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07-14-2022 , 12:07 AM
Possibly a stupid question....

If i take my putter in to my courses pro shop to be regripped before a round and they do it then and there, will i be able to use it straight away or is there some sort of time period where its out of use because of something like the glue needs to dry?
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07-14-2022 , 06:34 AM
Not a stupid question

Yes, you can use it no problem, even your regular clubs will be fine after like half an hour.
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07-14-2022 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
Possibly a stupid question....

If i take my putter in to my courses pro shop to be regripped before a round and they do it then and there, will i be able to use it straight away or is there some sort of time period where its out of use because of something like the glue needs to dry?
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Originally Posted by Pedersen
Not a stupid question

Yes, you can use it no problem, even your regular clubs will be fine after like half an hour.
Not a stupid question but not a very accurate answer.

There's no way in hell I would ever swing a club 30 minutes after being regripped. How long you need to wait depends on two things.

1, how much solvent was used to slide the new grip on. The more solvent used the easier it is to slide the grip on and adjust as necessary. But it does take time for that solvent to dry and the more that is used the longer it takes.

2, where you store your clubs after being regripped. You never, ever want to put clubs back in your bag afterwards because they won't dry. You set them out somewhere cool and dry.

The putter is a little different because you aren't swinging it at a hundred miles per hour. But the flip side is that the putter grip needs to be perfectly aligned and if used too quickly can be easily shifted off center.

Personally, I never use a club that has been regripped until the next day and it's been sitting in a cool, dry place during that time. I might use a putter the same day but will never take a chance on using it too quickly.

Now, if you have a builder that knows what they are doing (easier said than found) they can use as little solvent as possible so that you can use the clubs earlier than is typical.
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07-14-2022 , 10:51 AM
Ok, thanks for your answers. Ill go and get it done tonight to be safe for tomorrow.
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07-14-2022 , 12:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/RIfsR6Y.jpg

I dont know how to post an image any more. But does this look wrong to you guys?

I didnt have time to go to the pro shop at my course so i went to a golf shop near me and got them to do the regripping. Its not.... straight? That image is a side view and at the top it looks bent back like hes used brunt force.
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07-14-2022 , 09:57 PM
I found an option today practicing with the Garmin launch monitor that changes things from maybe returning it to never returning it. I know I can record video and I always watch afterwards. I will also watch during a session but had to go through a bunch of hoops to find the video. Today I learned that if I keep it on the screen that records the video it'll Play my last shot in a continuous loop until I hit another one. It'll also show the overall distance, carry and yards I deviate from my target. Forget about wondering how accurate the numbers are and all the other complaints I had. Being able to instantly see what my swing look like is invaluable. I've got a bit of the Elvis leg in my swing that I'm trying to calm. I don't always know it's happening and there were a few I thought I hit perfectly, but the video told a different story.
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07-17-2022 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
https://i.imgur.com/RIfsR6Y.jpg

I dont know how to post an image any more. But does this look wrong to you guys?

I didnt have time to go to the pro shop at my course so i went to a golf shop near me and got them to do the regripping. Its not.... straight? That image is a side view and at the top it looks bent back like hes used brunt force.
you didn't really have to ask, you knew
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07-19-2022 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Still in beta testing, but this might be of interest.

So far I've been pretty happy just getting yardages and (haven't mentioned this before) video of my swing. I picked up on video a flaw in my grip, made a small change and it has definitely helped my ball striking. Given the inconsistency in how I've had it set up at the range (it's not the most level ground) I haven't worried too much about the other data. Will be more of a thing when I get a net or sim setup built this winter.
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That looks interesting! I'm a bit skeptical about loading 3rd party software these days, but if it's in the play store I would help them w/ the beta test.
I was ready to install this software and got an unusual windows popup cautioning me against it. He explains this will happen on his page:

Windows might warn you that this is an unrecognized app. Click on More Info and then press Run anyway.
You might get another warning. Press Yes to install R10Analytics.

(At some moment I will try to become a registered publisher, but that is rather expensive.)

I thought it must be crazy expensive but did a Google search and found:

Individual accounts cost approximately $19 USD, and company accounts cost approximately $99 USD (the exact amounts may vary depending on your country or region). This is a one-time registration fee and no renewal is required.

I guess we all have different definitions of rather expensive, but that's not much if it is all it costs. He's got a nice website he has setup and I'd like to trust him, but I can't install that on my work computer. Darnit.
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07-24-2022 , 08:11 AM
I might try swinging a club today. I had a pretty good round about 2 months ago. Lots of pars and bogeys with my years lowest total of absolute disaster holes. Then I didnt have golf money for a period and I was really trying to focus on increasing the number of hours I can put in at work(ive had to take 3 leaves of absence so far in 2022). I was at the end of a good week and I was feeling like I was in a good position to keep it going. Then I injured my neck at work. Just finished my first week back. Dr said golf is fine now that I'm healed, but I'm not going to jump right back into it. Might take a 7 iron to the range and go through the motions.
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07-25-2022 , 06:24 PM


An old contract between a pro and a golf ball manufacturer (Dunlop)

Six golf balls per month from March - October
Three golf balls per month from November - February

I'd guess that pros nowadays go through more than six balls in one round even if they never lose one.
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07-31-2022 , 09:35 PM
How much difference does a driver shaft make to an average golfer? 3 or 4 years ago I was fit for a driver. The guy asked me if I was planning on taking lessons or if I wanted a club that would help with my slice? (Paraphrasing) I told him I was not planning on taking lessons. So I got a Callaway epic Sub-Zero and I really did like it until last year when I was fit for a big Bertha, set to the draw setting. I still kind of regret that.

This year I set it to neutral and worked on my swing. I swallowed my pride and got some lessons. They've made a big difference although it is still a work in progress. Because things have changed I figure I'll spend the $50 for a fitting at Miles of Golf. My spin rate is lower, but apparently so is my swing speed, if the Garmin r10 can be believed and so is my launch angle. In the past i don't know if I hit any shafts that weren't stock. I wonder if that would even been necessary if a person can't drive straight without the assistance of adjusting the club? So I'll trust the guy of course. I'll ask to hit other shafts and see what he says.
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08-05-2022 , 10:55 AM
Is the limited distance of srixon range balls mostly manifested in the longer clubs? ie a pitching wedge would go much the same distance as a premium ball but a driver 10% or so less?
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08-06-2022 , 09:04 AM
My brother subbed in league play at his "club" this week. He's texting me and a buddy about how dumb his playing partners were and how they got angry when he picked up after reaching net double bogey on a hole.

This rule does NOT apply to league play, correct? From what I remember it's "when play allows" (the club specifically tells you it's in effect) or when you and your pals agree during a casual round.

Can anyone chime in here?
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08-06-2022 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
My brother subbed in league play at his "club" this week. He's texting me and a buddy about how dumb his playing partners were and how they got angry when he picked up after reaching net double bogey on a hole.

This rule does NOT apply to league play, correct? From what I remember it's "when play allows" (the club specifically tells you it's in effect) or when you and your pals agree during a casual round.

Can anyone chime in here?
I assume you’re talking about ESC for handicapping purposes?

I’d say it’s league dependent. Who knows how many balls count etc. just follow the league rules especially as a sub.
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08-06-2022 , 10:22 AM
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Is the limited distance of srixon range balls mostly manifested in the longer clubs? ie a pitching wedge would go much the same distance as a premium ball but a driver 10% or so less?
As a general rule range balls suck and are extremely inconsistent. You will get basically nothing from how far they fly with any club.
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08-06-2022 , 10:32 AM
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How much difference does a driver shaft make to an average golfer? 3 or 4 years ago I was fit for a driver. The guy asked me if I was planning on taking lessons or if I wanted a club that would help with my slice? (Paraphrasing) I told him I was not planning on taking lessons. So I got a Callaway epic Sub-Zero and I really did like it until last year when I was fit for a big Bertha, set to the draw setting. I still kind of regret that.

This year I set it to neutral and worked on my swing. I swallowed my pride and got some lessons. They've made a big difference although it is still a work in progress. Because things have changed I figure I'll spend the $50 for a fitting at Miles of Golf. My spin rate is lower, but apparently so is my swing speed, if the Garmin r10 can be believed and so is my launch angle. In the past i don't know if I hit any shafts that weren't stock. I wonder if that would even been necessary if a person can't drive straight without the assistance of adjusting the club? So I'll trust the guy of course. I'll ask to hit other shafts and see what he says.
Shaft is roughly 80% of the club build, it’s way more important than anything else. From a fitting perspective, fitting for head is easy, fitting for shaft not so much.

What’s wrong with having your driver head set on draw bias? That’s where mine is set and don’t feel like I suck. It’s just one part of the fit.

Hitting custom shafts is a totally different world than flimsy stock shafts. If your fitter knows anything you’ll notice a big difference.

From their website it appears Miles of Golf has upgraded their offerings. I hope that’s the case because they used to be pretty bad.
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08-07-2022 , 12:09 AM
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Shaft is roughly 80% of the club build, it’s way more important than anything else. From a fitting perspective, fitting for head is easy, fitting for shaft not so much.

What’s wrong with having your driver head set on draw bias? That’s where mine is set and don’t feel like I suck. It’s just one part of the fit.

Hitting custom shafts is a totally different world than flimsy stock shafts. If your fitter knows anything you’ll notice a big difference.

From their website it appears Miles of Golf has upgraded their offerings. I hope that’s the case because they used to be pretty bad.
Very interesting and informative as always. I appreciate the response. I just feel like if I need an adjustment in my driver to keep the ball straight That's probably not good because there is most likely a fault in my swing that is carrying on to every other club. And with those clubs I don't have the same kind of adjustment. With a draw bias I might hit the drive straight but every other club is going far off to the right. I just feel like I would be better off fixing that problem, if that makes sense.

From what I've read on their website miles of golf has been top-notch for almost 30 years. Are they misrepresenting themselves? This is what I found on the website:

Miles of Golf is one of the top Club Fitting Facilities in the country and is designated as a Golf Digest Top 100 Club Fitter, a Titleist Regional Club Fitting Center (one of 4 in the U.S.), was the first off-course Ping National Club Fitter of the Year and has been recognized as one of the Best 100 Golf Shops in the country by Golf Digest/AGM since 1999.
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08-07-2022 , 02:19 AM
I keep the driver in a different mental compartment entirely separated from other clubs. Thus otters comment about a swing issue with other clubs as "carrying on to other clubs" as compared with driver, has sparked this reply.

Our bodies are changing every moment. The cells in our bones are no more than 5(last I read) years old, as old bone cells are continuously being replaced by new. Our muscles and tendons perform differently from day to day and even minute by minute(external temperature, nutrients in blood, oxygen in blood, water in blood, injury on last hole, etc etc). No two golf swings are identical.

This is exactly why Bob rotella wrote a book entirely about the imperfections of golf. "Golf is not a Game of Perfect." Each shot is unique. Each shot must be created.

Clubs, ah golf clubs. A tangible, consistent, and occasionally perfectly fitted gift from the universe. In a game of nanometers, unexpected and uncontrollable motion of atmospheric particles, a singular blade of grass can decide the victor, but the club is the constant. The club provides a consistency to our relationship with a playing field that is continuously evolving.

This is why I believe each club deserves its own mental compartment(see loci method), but if given the choice between(one compartment for all golf clubs) and (one compartment for driver) (other clubs), I think the latter is superior.

The prime factor behind this is that while other clubs interact with both ball and turf, which necessitates a downward strike with the very bottom of the swing being in a position in front of the initial impact position, the bottom of the driver swing should be somewhere behind the ball, causing an upward strike with hopefully zero ground interaction at the bottom of the swing. Some people are not so good at differentiating this(see 14 degree drivers) while others excel(heard Kyle long drive champ say he had been practicing with NEGATIVE LOFT DRIVERS! Lol what?)

Irons on the other hand have much less individuality across the spectrum of golfers and I believe that the ground is the great equalizer here. However thats a ramble for another day.
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08-07-2022 , 08:05 AM
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Very interesting and informative as always. I appreciate the response. I just feel like if I need an adjustment in my driver to keep the ball straight That's probably not good because there is most likely a fault in my swing that is carrying on to every other club. And with those clubs I don't have the same kind of adjustment. With a draw bias I might hit the drive straight but every other club is going far off to the right. I just feel like I would be better off fixing that problem, if that makes sense.

From what I've read on their website miles of golf has been top-notch for almost 30 years. Are they misrepresenting themselves? This is what I found on the website:

Miles of Golf is one of the top Club Fitting Facilities in the country and is designated as a Golf Digest Top 100 Club Fitter, a Titleist Regional Club Fitting Center (one of 4 in the U.S.), was the first off-course Ping National Club Fitter of the Year and has been recognized as one of the Best 100 Golf Shops in the country by Golf Digest/AGM since 1999.
BO can undoubtedly give you a better answer, but I would speculate that while they've been a terrific retailer for many years (which is true) they only got serious about having a really good fitting operation more recently. I haven't had them fit me but I know quite several people that have had fittings in the last few years and they've all been very pleased.
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08-07-2022 , 10:49 AM
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BO can undoubtedly give you a better answer, but I would speculate that while they've been a terrific retailer for many years (which is true) they only got serious about having a really good fitting operation more recently. I haven't had them fit me but I know quite several people that have had fittings in the last few years and they've all been very pleased.
That’s the indication I’m getting as well. I do have a firsthand story regarding them from 2018 I’ll relay after I play golf today.
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