He apparently had a bad ticker. Had a heart attack in his early 20s. Def sad with wife and 3 kids

That really sucks. ~2009 I was trading emails with him discussing golf and poker.

Glad Cat is back to hitting balls but man is he dreadfully boring in these Hero interviews. They say he is a great ball Buster but just shows no sense of humor in the tower. Snoozer

I forgot about that, I loved the shake weight.

Member Member roster for Jordan’s club. Decent names here

That moment you walk off the green thinking you made a par, write down score and make your way to the next tee. Then it's time to tee it up. You grab a club and enter the tee box. Just when you reach into your pocket for a ball, the solitary ball in your pocket reminds you that you hit 3 off the tee.

As a 12hc hacker who has only broken 80 a few times, I feel that I am unqualified to give golf advice to anyone on the course. However, since I play so often by myself, I find I get paired up with lots of random strangers. And it's amazing how often I see really really bad golfers, who are not new to the game, and who all seem to make many of the same mistakes all the time. Many I see repeatedly over the years... and they never get even a little bit better. I never give advice on the course as I think it is rude and I am not a very good golfer myself. However, it got me to thinking about some of the core things that I keep seeing many bad golfers do wrong, and I've come up with a basic list. Almost all cause a weak slice which is the common theme of most bad golfers (along with lots of chunks):

-Grip too weak: most bad players slice, and most refuse to strengthen their grip. You do sometimes see the opposite problem (grip is so strong they can't even release the club), but that is far less common. I think many bad golfers would instantly improve contact if they used a significantly stronger grip.
-Fan club face open on backswing. Most bad golfers have the club face way too open at the top of their swing. Every now and then they can manipulate it on the downswing to square up the face, but that only happens rarely. Most would do far better by using a "square-to-square" type swing where the club face stays square to the swing path, with no rolling of the club face open going back. This is related to another flaw which is taking the club back too inside, which often, combined with the too-weak grip, leads to naturally wanting to roll open the club face.
-Too long of a swing: Most bad players have long backswings that result in little power. Most would likely improve if they consciously tried to do a 3/4 swing every time (often what feels like a 3/4 swing is actually a full swing anyway).
-Too much movement: Most chunks and fat shots seem to be caused by player swaying back on the backswing. I see this all the time, it's pretty much the standard move for high-HC golfers. Some guys I play with may hit one or 2 shots off the fairway solid in an entire round. They will say "I picked my head up" or whatever, but in fact they swayed way back, and then hit behind the ball.

IMO these are the 4 easiest fixes a very bad golfer (like 20+) can implement to improve their ball striking. I think many magazines and youtube videos do a disservice by focusing on more complex things that new or bad players don't always understand (like "over-the-top", or "hold the angle", "find the slot", etc.). Grip stronger, swing shorter, keep clubface square to swing path, keep body from swaying back.

Anyway just my observations. Of course I am sure I make some of these mistakes myself without even realizing, and lots of others, otherwise I would be a lot better than I am. I am just mentioning what I see over and over, when paired up with randos on the muni course.

I would like to add the short game aspect to it. From like 70 yards and in (Including chipping). For some reason people love sending the ball way up in the air, I was guilty of it when I first started playing. Think people would do way better by taking less loft and shorten the swing and playing it in lower.

Yes high HC players love to go for the high lob shot but hitting a 60 degree wedge off a tight fairway lie is not easy. For many probably better off bumping it up most of the time.

I keep checking the darned weather app and the forecast for the next 10 days is all over the place. Makes a pretty big difference if the high is going to be 40 or (in once case) 55 and the swings are nuts.

One thing is consistent though, the weekend days aren't forecasted to be warm enough so I'm probably not going to get in any December golf.

I was kinda excited when my sister said it was going to be a high of 57 this weekend! Then I checked and the high of 55 on Saturday is going to be between 4AM and 8AM and it is going to get colder and windier as the day goes on. That was disappointing.

Booker - layer up, put on a hat, don't keep score and go out and have fun.

Yep I very rarely regret playing when I'm debating it due to the weather. Last week was high of 46, borderline, was going to cancel my round. Put on a bunch of layers and a woollen hat, and had a great time.

Saturday's forecast: High of 48. Great!

Wind out of the west at 25 to 35 mph, gusting to 50-60 mph.

Chance of rain 83%, up to a quarter inch expected.

Hmm.

Maybe?

At least we're dodging the 10-15 inches of snow they're getting between Minneapolis, N Wisky and da U.P.

Me and a buddy were making plans to golf next Wednesday and saw it was gonna be 58 and a slight chance of rain so we thought about not playing. I forget how spoiled I am with golf weather.

Spoiled you say?

Low 80s for highs and low 60s for lows next 9 days for me.

I remember someone mentioning something about overspeed training but I cannot remember who was hoping to see how they got on with it and what the some of the results were?

Has anybody else done it as well? If so care to share some results and what you thought about it?

Was me prob. I started with speed sticks and then moved on to The Stack System. I had a HOF thread but stopped posting over the summer.

Yeah that much wind is a no-go, even without the rain.

We are supposed to hit 70 in NJ tomorrow but with some strong winds (15-20mph, gusts up to 35mph). I am planning to try and get out early, as the winds are due to pick up as the day goes on. 35mph gusts is pushing it but tough to sit out a 70 degree December day in NJ.

Nice I'll take a look,

I actually ordered the super speed stuff today. They have a portable launch monitor as well in the bundle type thing which is good because I don't really have access to a launch monitor near by. Even if it's not the best at least it's something. Its the " PRGR Portable Launch Monitor".

I watched one of Bryson's video's the other day not sure which one but he mentioned something along the lines players that don't even try to swing it harder or don't know how. I feel I fall into this category, So hopefully I can gain something out of this. If anything it's a little workout that keeps me active at the minimum so at least that's good.... Unless a pop a hip or a knee out

Having a consistent launch monitor is important. I was using one at my club that was miscalibrated initially So that threw me off.

Now I use a PRGR as well (prob the same one you just got). My cruising speed went from ~104-ish to about 108 at end of season. So 10-12 yards longer this year. Hit it more solid as well at higher speeds.

I've take a break on speed training at the moment due to some bursitis in my hip. Nothing major but doc thought some time off may help with the inflammation.

Lastly, what Bryson is saying is true. A lot of players just don't hit the ball hard with intent. You have to learn to swing faster (and train it). A lot of us spent a lot of years being told to swing smooth and steady so it may not come natural to swing as hard and fast as you can.

That's good to hear cheers! I plan on spending the winter time using this and seeing what I come out with. Then hopefully want to go to a fitting when the weather starts to get a bit better.

and yeah I'm exactly that guy with the smooth swing pretty consistent but I will get eaten up on a longer course.

aren't both of you in a part of the country (not the sun belt) that doesn't require scores to be posted to your HC this time of year?

just get out and play.

you have an automatic excuse for not playing your best, why not just go out and have some fun?
try to play/shape some shots you've never tried before?
why isn't 30 mph wind fun if nothing matters? try hitting a big draw into a helping wind and see how far it takes you. also try hitting a big slice into a hurting wind and see how much it helps you.
test out the rain gear you bought on discount only to discover you could have done better?
don't take this **** so serious. it's just a silly game played by adults that shouldn't take it as seriously as they do.

Turns out the 48 degree high temp was around 5 am, it dropped steadily after that. Wind gusts peaked just shy of 70 mph. Branches and trees down all over the place. At least it didn't snow, though it did not too far away.

I'm not enough of a diehard to play in those conditions, it's not fun.

If it's warm (or at least warm-ish), I don't mind some wind. It wasn't.

If it's cold, I don't do rain. It was.

We'll see if an opportunity presents itself this week to sneak out, supposed to warm up again through Thursday. Not like some places that are going to be in the 70s but warm enough to be possible.