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07-06-2020 , 09:42 PM
I admittedly don't feel comfortable doing that.

I found another place where I can go to get it done. I'll likely be able to get fitted for a decent shaft, too.
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07-07-2020 , 09:53 PM
if you have even an remote interest in golf, then you should enjoy this.

i've always had so much love for Tom.

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07-08-2020 , 09:55 AM
Nice video might even watch it again. The stuff about how to treat people is a quality that is severely lacking in today’s world imo.
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07-09-2020 , 07:18 AM
Good video. I'm always amazed at how the pros can remember so many details from events that happened years ago. "Oh yeah, well on 6 at Pebble in 1982 I was 182 out with about a 12 MPH tailwind. I'd normally hit a 6 but the air was really dry and blah blah blah."

I remember the course I played when I first broke 40 for 9 holes. That's literally it. I can't remember what year it was, who I was playing with, or a single shot.

I just know I shot 39 at Chestnut Hill some time within the last 20 years.
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07-09-2020 , 11:31 AM
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Good video. I'm always amazed at how the pros can remember so many details from events that happened years ago. "Oh yeah, well on 6 at Pebble in 1982 I was 182 out with about a 12 MPH tailwind. I'd normally hit a 6 but the air was really dry and blah blah blah."

I remember the course I played when I first broke 40 for 9 holes. That's literally it. I can't remember what year it was, who I was playing with, or a single shot.

I just know I shot 39 at Chestnut Hill some time within the last 20 years.
Pro golfers seem like elite poker players who can recall details of hands from years ago. I could never do that. I have vague recollections of rounds from high school matches but couldn't tell you specific clubs I hit on different holes, and can't even remember the names of some of the courses.
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07-13-2020 , 09:01 AM
Gave my sister a lesson yesterday. Only clubs we brought were 9 iron for her and 7 iron for me to make examples with. She hit a few that flew nicely around 50 to 80 yards. She had loose left arm, lots of head movement, and she dove towards the ball on lots of swings but she was very polite and attentive. Was kinda fun.
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07-14-2020 , 06:58 PM
How many strokes per round do you think the pros pickup by using those green reading books vs not using them? 4 or so? I think they should be banned, but the USGA isn't listening to me.
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07-14-2020 , 07:32 PM
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How many strokes per round do you think the pros pickup by using those green reading books vs not using them? 4 or so? I think they should be banned, but the USGA isn't listening to me.
4 strokes per round? So without those books only 2 guys would have broken par for the tournament last week?

Don’t forget the player still has to hit the putt on the right line with the right speed while making contact in the center of the face.
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07-14-2020 , 07:56 PM
just think if Augusta allowed them! (which they don't)

Tiger's and Spieth's record -18 to win the tournament would be -34! conservatively -30 if you only give them 3 strokes a round instead of 4!

Really amazing considering the lowest PGA 288 hole tournament round ever is Steve Stricker with a -33 at the 2009 Bob Hope. If they were invented then Stricker could have EASILY shot rounds of 61-63-57-58 and be -49 under par for the tournament!
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07-14-2020 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
4 strokes per round? So without those books only 2 guys would have broken par for the tournament last week?

Don’t forget the player still has to hit the putt on the right line with the right speed while making contact in the center of the face.
Gosh, I don't know. Maybe. Are you saying that there's no advantage to using them and that on average, players would shoot the same score If they didn't use them?
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07-14-2020 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88
just think if Augusta allowed them! (which they don't)

Tiger's and Spieth's record -18 to win the tournament would be -34! conservatively -30 if you only give them 3 strokes a round instead of 4!

Really amazing considering the lowest PGA 288 hole tournament round ever is Steve Stricker with a -33 at the 2009 Bob Hope. If they were invented then Stricker could have EASILY shot rounds of 61-63-57-58 and be -49 under par for the tournament!
So you think it's more like 0.00225 strokes per round? What's the number? Or is it all the same? Beats me. That -33 was without green reading books. Just think, it could have been -49! ! Plus just think if he could have tapped down spike marks and manicured his line. I think we are talking -53. -53 is the new -33.
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07-17-2020 , 09:01 AM
Random putting thoughts incoming.

If I aim high I can get the ball to finish behind the hole within a few feet.

If I don’t aim that extra bit high, I’m constantly blowing the ball by the hole on the low side and I often have 5+ footers coming back.

In addition to my putting variation that causes offline putts, if I can get this part of the mental game in check I could score better.

Just tap it in. Give it a little tap tap tapparoo.

Also regarding wrist movements during putting:

On my long putt practice swings I think about having more hit to my putting stroke. On short putts I’m just thinking about making a straight stroke.

Where is the in between putt? For me the crossroads is between 15 and 20 feet.
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07-17-2020 , 02:34 PM
Has anyone played the Bear in Traverse City, Michigan or any of the other 2 courses at Grand Traverse Resort? It looks they pride themselves on the Bear being difficult. Very difficult. Perhaps difficult to the point on not being fun. Maybe unfair? I saw a blog where they spent 14 million dollars upgrading or modifying the course and am wondering if they made it any more player friendly?

I have been unable to find any recent reviews, which is kind of a red flag.
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07-17-2020 , 04:43 PM
Casual round scoring question: I play everything out usually, but I had one where I think I'm going to cheat. 3 iron from 210 on a par 3...the "shorter" club. Lose it a little right, but not that bad. It's headed towards a cart path so I hit a "provisional"...really just wanted to hit a better shot. Never find the first ball, but if I really would've spent full time, I probably would've found it under a bush I'm almost certain it went into. Played the other ball out of a terrible spot in the bunker and end up making an EIGHT.

Probably in a tournament you'd have to play that second ball, but I know it didn't go OB because OB is just a yard and I would've seen it. Think I'm going to take a 5? (I ended up hitting the bunker shot to about where I would've dropped my bush ball.
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07-17-2020 , 04:50 PM
bob - sure seem to be a lot of thoughts in your head!
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07-17-2020 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob148
Random putting thoughts incoming.

If I aim high I can get the ball to finish behind the hole within a few feet.

If I don’t aim that extra bit high, I’m constantly blowing the ball by the hole on the low side and I often have 5+ footers coming back.

In addition to my putting variation that causes offline putts, if I can get this part of the mental game in check I could score better.

Just tap it in. Give it a little tap tap tapparoo.

Also regarding wrist movements during putting:

On my long putt practice swings I think about having more hit to my putting stroke. On short putts I’m just thinking about making a straight stroke.

Where is the in between putt? For me the crossroads is between 15 and 20 feet.
Definitely thinking too much. Pick a spot and just put a good stroke on it at the spot, imo. Only thing I would say is SUPER light grip, barely holding on to the club, and use big muscles....putt with your shoulders. Let the rest do whatever it does.

If you are really struggling with speed, I remember a Phil Mickelson tip from a long long time ago. He would take one really big practice stroke that he KNEW was too hard, and then one light stroke that he KNEW was too light, and then find the middle.
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07-18-2020 , 12:06 AM
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bob - sure seem to be a lot of thoughts in your head!
I think if you could somehow create a transcript of the thoughts going through the head of pretty much any golfer they would look insane.
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07-18-2020 , 10:12 AM
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I think if you could somehow create a transcript of the thoughts going through the head of pretty much any golfer they would look insane.
Generally speaking, the fewer thoughts the better the golfer. The ultimate is to look at the target and then hit it there with zero thoughts.

Every golfer, regardless of skill, should have no more than one swing thought at a time.
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07-18-2020 , 04:12 PM
Had follow up lesson today. Cindy said my hands can go as fast as I want on the downswing but tempo has to be smooth. I couldn't wrap my head around that. So Allen said the arms on the downswing should move as fast as in the backswing. So I focused on that. I was hitting it well consistently. But I just don't see how I can speed up the hands without speeding up the arms. Seems impossible.

So during tomorrow's round I'm just going to swing easy and club up, distance be damned.

Cindy also said this approach is the only way to solve my chipping woes.

I'm optimistic.
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07-18-2020 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Generally speaking, the fewer thoughts the better the golfer. The ultimate is to look at the target and then hit it there with zero thoughts.

Every golfer, regardless of skill, should have no more than one swing thought at a time.
I agree this is ideal.
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07-19-2020 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
Casual round scoring question: I play everything out usually, but I had one where I think I'm going to cheat. 3 iron from 210 on a par 3...the "shorter" club. Lose it a little right, but not that bad. It's headed towards a cart path so I hit a "provisional"...really just wanted to hit a better shot. Never find the first ball, but if I really would've spent full time, I probably would've found it under a bush I'm almost certain it went into. Played the other ball out of a terrible spot in the bunker and end up making an EIGHT.

Probably in a tournament you'd have to play that second ball, but I know it didn't go OB because OB is just a yard and I would've seen it. Think I'm going to take a 5? (I ended up hitting the bunker shot to about where I would've dropped my bush ball.
You can play a provisional if you don't think you are going to be able to find it. Pro tip: If you really don't want the first one found declare it lost before you go look for it.
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07-19-2020 , 01:30 PM
On full & near-full swings, my swing thoughts are basically 0, unless I need to hit a shape that's not straight or a minor draw. Fast, grip&rip golf is definitely my comfort zone
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07-19-2020 , 04:07 PM
Christopher Smith is a huge proponent of speed golf for this very reason
well, that and he once shot a 65 in under 45 minutes.
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07-25-2020 , 09:17 PM
Par 3, within mid-short iron range (7i or less). Do you tee it up? I turn into absolute garbage when I tee my irons up, even if it's only a fraction of a millimeter. Fat shots abound. In normal play, I basically never fat an iron unless it's ball above my feet.

Dumb stuff like that costing me strokes is so frustrating. Same with trying to hit a shorter club that I'm likely less consistent with, like 3W or 5W off the tee instead of driver. I feel like if I can learn & play my patterns somewhat near properly, I'd be 10 times the player I am now.
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07-26-2020 , 12:27 PM
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Par 3, within mid-short iron range (7i or less). Do you tee it up? I turn into absolute garbage when I tee my irons up, even if it's only a fraction of a millimeter. Fat shots abound. In normal play, I basically never fat an iron unless it's ball above my feet.

Dumb stuff like that costing me strokes is so frustrating. Same with trying to hit a shorter club that I'm likely less consistent with, like 3W or 5W off the tee instead of driver. I feel like if I can learn & play my patterns somewhat near properly, I'd be 10 times the player I am now.
For most of my life I would tee it up, but of course it's barely above the ground. Not like it is with a driver. However, I've started not doing that on short irons
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