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Lol I missed the word tomorrow and went to see how you did. Oops. Good luck!

I’d watch Tiger Phil if it were on TV and I were around but it wouldn’t be must see tv. No chance I’m going to Ppv tho

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08-23-2018 , 01:40 PM

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scottc25

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Just got an email and it's hole-by-hole scoring too. I just figured they would update after 9 holes like all of their other championships, but nope. Live cut line on Saturday as well. Interesting.

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08-23-2018 , 01:41 PM

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KingJames

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I'm torn; I've ordered a lot of Mayweather PPVs including the Pacman and McGregor fights out of intrigue. I probably will order the Tiger match as I'm a huge fan-boy and I'll be interested to watch it in real time and see Shadow Creek.

Although Vegas is just a 7 hour drive and it's Thanksgiving weekend; I could drive out if they're going to allow spectators. Could be fun too...

Price point will probably be the final straw. I saw Rovell polling on twitter asking about paying nothing, <$10, $10-$20 and > $20. If it's less than $20 it's a no-brainer for me I guess.

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08-23-2018 , 04:43 PM

#12479

GuntShot

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I'd pay to watch the two of them masturbate.

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08-24-2018 , 08:58 AM

#12480

campfirewest

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Originally Posted by GuntShot

I'd pay to watch the two of them masturbate.

Wut?

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08-25-2018 , 08:21 PM

#12481

GuntShot

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"I can sell out Madison Square Garden masturbating" - Mike Tyson .. It was a reference to that.

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08-26-2018 , 03:33 PM

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ArcticKnight

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I knew Brooke Henderson shallowed out her swing but OMG, until you see it in slow motion. The club is almost horizontal at one point in her downswing.

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08-26-2018 , 03:56 PM

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stinkypete

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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight

. The club is almost horizontal at one point in her downswing.

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Dafuq does that mean? The club is horizontal at one point in everyone's downswing

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08-26-2018 , 04:00 PM

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ArcticKnight

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

Dafuq does that mean? The club is horizontal at one point in everyone's downswing

The plane... swing plane.... is almost horizontal

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08-26-2018 , 04:48 PM

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stinkypete

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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight

The plane... swing plane.... is almost horizontal

a) no it's not
b) it's pretty flat because a 48" shaft on a 5'4" girl will do that

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08-26-2018 , 05:19 PM

#12486

REDeYeS00

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08-26-2018 , 07:45 PM

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ntnBO

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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen

I could be wrong, but isn't putting the last place where ball matters beyond not having defects in it. The only real difference is just the sound it makes? I mean, I can certainly see the mental psychology of playing different balls etc. I'd imagine most players that don't normally break out the ProVs will inherently focus better in an important round, like grinding out their club championship B flight or something. Obviously, no guarantee of better results, but yeah.

Putting is where it's most important, followed by chipping, pitching, wedge game, etc. You work your way back from the green.

After all, there's a reason why most players don't play a Pinnacle or some such that goes forever off the tee.

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08-27-2018 , 01:31 AM

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ArcticKnight

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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight

The plane... swing plane.... is almost horizontal

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

a) no it's not
b) it's pretty flat because a 48" shaft on a 5'4" girl will do that

Not sure if you are trolling or what, stinkypete

The average women's driver shaft length is 44 inches. Henderson has a 47" driver and chokes down 2 or 3"...

The average height for an American woman is 5'4" (yes I know she is Canadian).

Thx for posting the video below Red.... this down-the-line view shows the extreme shallowing out in the downswing even better..

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08-27-2018 , 03:16 AM

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stinkypete

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She uses a max. length (48") driver when most male tour pros 8+ inches taller than her are in the 44-45" range and she chokes down maybe about an inch from a "standard" grip

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08-27-2018 , 12:14 PM

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#Thinman

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i've gained about 12-15 yards of carry after switching to the 46" shaft. my backspin is down in the 2000 range so it also translates to an awesome rollout. i choke up about an inch indoors or else I scrape my side wall.

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08-28-2018 , 04:51 PM

#12491

Spottswoode

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Osprey Valley in Toronto just got rebranded "TPC Toronto" and I couldn't be any less thrilled. One of my favourite places on earth with 3 incredible courses and they now have the catalyst to double their prices next season. They tweeted a reply to me that they are aiming to maintain consistent value to their customers but I don't believe it.

Happy for their success but I get the feeling my days there are numbered.

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08-28-2018 , 06:21 PM

#12492

scottc25

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Nothing screams overpriced like the TPC label. I know some of their courses are really nice but I have never seen one that I would call a good value.

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08-29-2018 , 08:23 AM

#12493

Lord_Crispen

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Originally Posted by ntnBO

I agree with everything but the putting part. I think lumping putting in there with around the green stuff involving spin and trajectory and arc and all that stuff, and so much so that you think it's MORE important, it just sounds like a very old guard thing to say.

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08-29-2018 , 12:31 PM

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For me the ball is most important in the 10 to 70 yard range.. outside of that, unless the greens are bone dry, some mid-range priced ball are fine. For putting, unless it is a rock I am not seeing/feeling much difference.

Where I see the most difference would be in a 30 or 40 yard lowish flight SW shot looking for a land-check-stop. You try that with a mid range ball and the stop part turns into 6 to 8 feet of roll-out. Or, it may just stop.. The lack of consistent response is a problem. IMO.

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08-29-2018 , 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen

I agree with everything but the putting part.

Yeah, feel matters and a good putter might struggle with a ball they're not used to, but they can also get used to a pinnacle or whatever very easily. There's nothing about a high end spinny ball that gives it a putting advantage.

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08-29-2018 , 08:49 PM

#12496

ntnBO

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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

A player has more control chipping and pitching with a ball that has more spin because they can control it better. It grips the face longer. But guess what? The exact same thing applies to putting.

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08-29-2018 , 10:14 PM

#12497

rivercitybirdie

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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen

i was slow to respond... but my comment had to do with not mixing ball types i.e. i play new premium and distance balls and both used. often i just play what's in my bag... you can end up with big differences if you start playing soft and rock hard balls, both putting.....

but your answer seems consistent with what i said - namely don't mix-match ball types..... and my guess is you simply want to play with the same ball and always new balls if you want to be really consistent.

EDIT: and rock hard balls are probably bad too. not even sure if they're sold like that new or if that's the plastic stiffening (either due to air or water exposure)

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08-30-2018 , 12:45 AM

#12498

Lord_Crispen

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Originally Posted by ntnBO

A player has more control chipping and pitching with a ball that has more spin because they can control it better. It grips the face longer. But guess what? The exact same thing applies to putting.

BO, you really sound like you're defending old ball flight laws.

I'm saying if you were deaf, you'd never know the difference between balls when putting.

*edit* Let me add that I will readily admit that I'm wrong if we can see some data. I haven't looked into it. I'm on as much of a hunch as you are.

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08-30-2018 , 12:53 AM

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stinkypete

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Originally Posted by ntnBO

A player has more control chipping and pitching with a ball that has more spin because they can control it better. It grips the face longer. But guess what? The exact same thing applies to putting.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen

BO, you really sound like you're defending old ball flight laws.

I'm saying if you were deaf, you'd never know the difference between balls when putting.

I'm not sure about the latter claim, but if this extended face time was so important, every tour player would have a soft urethane putter insert. In any case, there's zero chance the ball matters more for putting than it does for any chip, pitch or full swing.

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08-30-2018 , 01:15 AM

#12500

Lord_Crispen

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I typed up a whole bunch of stuff but I deleted it. I don't want this to turn into another breaking vs straight putts debacle, so I'm going to just leave it how pete just said it above. "In any case, there's zero chance the ball matters more for putting than it does for any chip, pitch or full swing." which was really the only point I was trying to make with my initial response to:

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Originally Posted by ntnBO

Putting is where it's most important, followed by chipping, pitching, wedge game, etc. You work your way back from the green.

After all, there's a reason why most players don't play a Pinnacle or some such that goes forever off the tee.

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