9 iron



3 wood off the deck

how's my impact position looking?

Hey Augie, what are yyou using for the slow motion vids?

messed around trying to pause vid at your impact pos. seems like your 9i and 3w have same amount of foward shaft lean at impact. your 9i should have significantly more.

at downswing when left arm is parallel to ground you start to pull up out of your swing. this is prob where you lose your spine angle.

should try working on drills to retain your wrist angle on downswing. you might be lifting up as you approach impact because your straighting out your shaft too early and getting crowded. hands should be ahead of club head through impact. especially for short irons.

idk. im not any kind of authority on swing analysis. so i might no be able to use vid at impact properly, but one thing is certain. you are still loosing your spine angle prior to impact. that will cause alot of weak right shots that fade.

how far do you hit your 9i and what would you say is the general trajectory? also your 3w off the deck.

make sure you clear your hips first. trying that without proper sequencing can cause a nasty over the top move or yucky shanks. by clear hips first you give yourself room to bring the club from the inside. however clearing too fast can cause shanks too. lol @ golf

finally starting to make some progress on maintaining spine angle. still not perfect of course but very noticeable difference in the ball contact.



this drill helped me immensely. i tried it for the first time today (used my golf bag instead of a chair) and after a week or so of grinding this drill i bet i'll be in pretty good shape.

ah nice progress and that is a very helpful drill. if i could give you a better sense of the feeling of the various sequences in the downswing and keeping your spine angle, perhaps it will assist as well.

from your vids it seems like your downswing starts with the quick unwinding of the hips toward the left and upward. i think this movement somehow might be causing the loss of spine angle.

although you want the hips to unwind and lead your upper body, the proper movement or sensation, i believe, is more a downward-through-and then upward motion. almost like your gonna squat at first. as you intiate the downward and uncoiling of the hips, then the upper body, and then hands, you let the club head pass through the hitting zone. and only then the weight of the clubhead and swing momentum should carry you out of your spine angle. not the movement itself. if that make any sense.

in other words the follow through(or straightening up) is a direct reaction to where the club head has been swung. i think you let the club head pass through the hit zone and get that feeling up the momentum of the swing carry you out of your spine angle, you will subconciously keep your spine angle through impact.

i think you're right

actually it's funny you say that, because one of my old swing thoughts months ago was to drive the hips down instead of just sideways.

i didn't know why, but it helped me from slicing the ball. now i know why! from all the other things i had been thinking about i've forgotten to keep doing it! thanks for reminding me.

made another bit of progress today. i know i did because my lower back was sore after hitting only about 50 balls and i've had hardly any lower back soreness in the thousands of balls i've hit prior to today. still a long way to go, though.

one thing that helped today is realizing that to make the swing changes i need to i need to hit a lot of crappy shots, so i can't be afraid to shank it or hit two inches behind the ball because that means i'm getting closer to where i need to be.

best one yet. keep up the good work.

http://www.waynedefrancesco.com/2566...seung-yul-noh/

heres a nice swing to emulate. especially the one at around 7min mark.

notice his head position at and after impact. see how it stays down through impact and then as you see the club head come out from his left shoulder, only then does his head start to rise out from its position.

also his squencing of lower and upper body is silky.

yours seems to come right before impact. this website link has great vid analysis of pga pros and helped my swing alot. it might be helpful for you. also it seem like you take alot of vids and are serious about your swing. you should check out the golf v1 app. it allows you to compare your vids side by side with top pros. with some proper lines drawn in at certain set up positions you can really see what the pros are doing different in there swing from yours. helped me realize alot about my swing because sometimes feel doesnt tell you the truth about whats really going on in your swing.

Ditto what ni han said. Wayne D is the nuts for golf analysis, and SYN's swing is one of the best in the biz, imo. (Personally, my favorite swing on tour is Sang-Moon Bae fwiw.) Augie, the hip on chair drill is great. What you'll find if you look at most young PGA tour pros, however, is that their left butt at impact is actually BEHIND where the back of their butt was at address. In other words, you should not only not let your hips come away from the chair, but you should probably actively try to push it over/ backwards. That said, I think your hips seem relatively back at impact. They may not be behind where they started (this is somewhat due to the fact that your set-up position is rather centered on your heels), but they are within acceptable imo.
I think fixing the lag thing should be your focus for now.

Cannot believe this is the same guy as in the first posts, so much improvement. I'm jealous of that swing

^ +1

great job augie!

Massive improvement. Really amazing job you've done with your swing.

That said, I don't like the chair drill. I understand what you're going for, I just think it promotes some bad habits. Mostly staying in flexion (bent over) too long. Your lower body has to slide left and essentially your legs have to straighten so your belt level rises. This move keeps the club from crashing into the ground, and it's also a big power move. Trying to keep your butt on the chair really prohibits that from happening.

augie just wanted to comment that your swing is phenominally better than your first post. great job and keep up the work.

thanks for the compliments.

went to a new range the other day since my home course is currently closed. bought a large bucket and discovered i had to hit off a mat. doesn't that just grind your gears? angel park driving range, you're dead to me.

i think i'm getting the hang of this rotation thing. my swing thought was to rotate through the ball as far as i could, even if i lost balance. this really helped me stay down longer through the shot. i'm excited to get back out to practice because feels like a brand new swing right now. i only hit about 10 shots and it felt really uncomfortable but i knew it was a better movement.

in this particular shot the backswing was too big but i think that was a result of being uncomfortable on the mats and only being one of my first shots of the day.

I see the swing has improved a ton. How is the game treating you? Is your handicap dropping? Did you pick up a lot of distance? What are your misses now? I would like to hear some sort of overall evaluation on how you are doing with golf.

I am amazed at how your swing has changed so dramatically towards the positive. In 5+ months you have made some MAJOR changes. It makes me wonder if you were ****ing with us in the March 2012 video of post #1. lol, jk.

i am so excited for this weekend!! i'm playing in the las vegas city amateur tournament.

i have not played 18 holes of golf since july and so my handicap has remained at 10.3 since then. but i've been practicing tons, so i feel like i'll be unintentionally sandbagging. and they adjusted my h/c to 11 for this tournament, lol.

i played a practice round today and shot 76, so i have a pretty fair chance of winning the net division if i can manage a couple of those on the weekend. the course is insanely easy (las vegas golf club) and lots of people will probably beat me outright, but the 11 h/c will be hard to overcome. i feel kind of bad about it...oh well, i could use a gift card toward a new set of R11 irons

i have lost distance but i'm much more consistent. my most common miss is a spray to the right which is mainly caused by losing my spine angle on the downswing. still have a lot of improving to do.

Do not be frustrated when you don't hit it as well as you have been. If you haven't been on the course much and only been hitting the range, a lot of weird things can happen.


Concentrate on hitting the shot you want, not making the swing you want to make, if that makes sense. Don't get mechanical.

amazing progress

impressed you've been practicing a ton rather than playing, i know i'd get better by practicing more and playing less but i cant bring myself to do it

very disappointing! obviously i expected to do much better but i learned a lot of valuable lessons.

most importantly, i learned how important the mental state is during a round. i tried to take reidlockhart's advice but i didn't apply it very well. for the first 29 holes, i was thinking way too much. i thought i was thinking the right thoughts, but the right thoughts are no thoughts at all.

like ship--it said in his q-school thread, the good pre-shot thought is "jordan". when MJ shoots a jump shot he just looks at the basket and shoots. he doesn't think of the mechanics of his wrist on the follow through or how hard to push his arm, he just fires. i need to save all the thinking for the range.

it took me until the 12th hole today to realize what i had been doing so wrong. i was fed up and tired of trying and magically i started making good swings. the less i tried, the higher and straighter my shots went. i caught bad lies on 14 and 15 or i would have finished even better than i did.

on the bright side, my putting was really good. probably because i was already using the "jordan" mentality even though i forgot to apply it to my full swing. my long game was so bad that i only had four realistic chances for birdie the whole tournament and i made three of them. i also made a ton of 6-20 footers. too bad they were usually for bogey.

read rotellas book golf is not a game of perfect. easy light read and is basically all about this concept.

Play more par 3s.

84's a good score, nicely done.