http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ndhnbhGjBU


http://www.golfchannel.com/media/gol...x-finger-grip/

Now I'm seeing that thru impact ur on your heels... definitely standing way too close. Try about 1 clubhead further way (3in or so

For a big guy your swing looks pretty effortless and repeatable, which is good.

I don't know much about swings but you bring the club way inside on the backswing and then come down over the top which seems like it would be hard to control the clubface but if you aren't slicing the ball maybe it's no big deal?

I guess im going to repeat what others said and say back swing needs to change and best way is to turn back with lower body and shoulders together (really you only command your lower body to turn back and your shoulders automatically do it). Dont start with your hands moving the club way inside, because then you can get stuck on the downswing (or reroute over the top). If you starting turning your body right at the beginning, the club will stay on plane.

Also dont "lift" with your arms at any point in the backswing. The left arm goes in the direction of your turn at all times until it is pulled across your chest and parallel to your shoulder line at the top of the swing. When your shoulders stop turning your backswing should end.

If you "lift" in the backswing you either have to do some massive club rerouting in the early downswing (like Furyk) or youll shank the ball or slice it real bad.

Also the heaving and hoing has to go, and thats just a matter of keeping your head still and rotating around your spine.

There are other issues in the swing such as the fact you stall your pivot and flip, but the backswing issue is most important issue atm.

To elaborate on what's already been said...

If you were two or three inches further from the ball, it would force you to adopt some of the takeaway measures these guys have rightly said you need, because it would be impossible to take the club back so upright from that position, and you'd have to be slightly more bent at the waist, creating an automatic fix.

At the very least, give it a try as an exercise, so you can feel what it is like to take the club more around your body a little.

You might also want to try making sure the toe of the club gets pointed to the sky a bit in your takeaway.

Last thing: you're making a slight hitch with your head right at the onset of your swing, which looks like tension to me. Exhale, drop your chin, and calmly start your swing without that head tug.

Instituting these things will likely see you missing the ball and/or skulling several balls at first, but once you strike a few well, you can make a tweak or two and really feel the shift toward a better takeaway.

These were all fixes I used, and they shaved literally ten strokes for me very quickly.

This whole video might help you Augie. I have always had a big problem getting the feel of a proper takeaway (I want to bring it inside like you). This guy covers 3 things in the video that would help you, the takeaway part starts at 9:40.

getting a little better each day. i think it kind of looks like i'm still a bit flat on the takeaway, gotta keep working. had a buddy at the range with me today so actually got a decent angle on this one.

I must have forgotten to add the video link from 2 posts above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6VlR...3fFAAAAAAAADAA

Setup looks improved, you really have to work on the takeaway, you lose the club to the inside *immediately* and its all over from there. Your first move is to pull it way inside and that can't happen. Over exaggerate it the other way until we are seeing a video where you take it outside and steep, its super unlikely you will be too far the other direction.

A swing thought might be "try to keep the face of the club pointed at the ball for as long as possible in the backswing"

Go ahead, we dare you to post a video and prove Death Donkey wrong! Seriously, it's hard for someone who takes it that much inside to overdo it the other way (myself included).

Meh you dont want exaggerate the other way too much. That might create a new swing flaw. You want to feel like your turning with just your body and dont move you arms in at all. Thats as "outside" as you can get. Then you can start adding in arm pulling towards your chest (which automatically rotates your forearms) and that brings the club more inside. And pull you arm in the direction your club is travelling, not above it or below it. You know have it right when you left arm is parallel to your shoulder line at the top.

The backswing shouldnt be something you have to guide, the path the club takes should be forced by the setup position you take at address and a proper pivot. No manipulation or "guiding" with your arms is neccessary other than moving you arms slowly towards your chest at constant rate.

You also have early extension, you stand up right around the time you hit the ball. That might be a compensation for other swing errors or it might just be that you arent athletic enough to keep your posture. I would worry about pivoting correctly first and then see if the early extension goes away.

thanks you guys rock. i'm gonna make you proud

Fold pre.

(I will explain)

In high stakes mtt you know all of those threads where people post hands and how they get into such trouble on the flop turn and river and look for advice on how they could have played it better? Well as you know, alot of the problems in those hands come down to bad preflop play, because that tends to compound itself without any help at all. (Playing A6 off then provides more difiuclties when aces flop etc...)

The golf swing is very similar and the advice from dagolf and bo are critical in that if the takeaway is bad, it is almost impossible to save it without incredible compensations which will be, at BEST, inconsistent.

You have to start with a good grip posture and alignment, or it all becomes hard, and without a good takeway there is really no real hope. You are a prisoner of inertia so to speak.

So google any of a million videos of good setups, grips, and takeaways, and the drills that go with them.

Hope all is well aug...

f doj

scratch the part about your arm moving towards your chest. Ideally you want to keep as wide as possible to avoid getting stuck.

thanks sheets, well put, love me a good analogy.

been grinding a lot of youtube instruction videos. after a couple of days of shanks, blocks, and fat shots, i think i'm more on plane now. but maybe not! hopefully you guys can tell me.

i think the second swing is the worst of the bunch.

You're standing so close to the ball that your takeaway has to be out and around resulting in an awfully flat plane. It also puts your weight on your heels...taking your lower body out of the swing.

Use a vertical line to see where your hands are at address! What I'm seeing is hands under your ears. They should be under your chin or mouth (but search for tiger or rory's swing as a template)

IDK if it's the shoes you're wearing that cause you to address the ball with weight on the heels or just the fact you're standing too close, but your swing's flaws will start to fix themselves when you start with proper balance.

Just a reminder! Golf is not a whirly bird motion... golf is about having a solid foundation, creating speed and power from the ground up. Think about how you can use your knees, legs and hips and your forearms and wrists to create power instead of the upper body.

thanks as always, kyle.

excited by your comments, i went back to the range and did a few more videos. first one was when i was trying to stand very far away and felt like i was reaching for the ball. when i was this far away 80% of my shots were pulled.

is this distance from the ball what you are looking for? or even farther?




the final one i made, standing closer (but still farther than i was in crappy swing 2.2, i think) and all of these were right at the target.

still coming back a bit too flat

do you think i can make it work standing at this distance? or should i just practice more at the first distance?



thanks!

Last swing is a tremendous improvement

There are still things you will change with your forearms and wrists. Before you pile on the new ideas with the upper body, master your lower body and engrain the best movement you can make.

Work on what you've done with your lower body for a week or so... Using the lower body like a speed skater does to generate maximum velocity with the first step.

Also, need an angle of you face on to diagnose head movement during the swing, rhythm, and impact-- basically at this point I can see you have begun to improve the lower body movement but in the next few weeks we'll change the heave ho into an iron byron.

Be willing to move half-speed to get yourself synchronized and to ease into full power movements... don't wanna be up on a chiropractic bed when you could be golfing instead.

i will get a head on angle for you.

thanks again, wow, you and all the other posters helping me along so much, gosh, it just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. if anyone's ever in vegas, let's play a round, carts are on me!

kyle, what do you think of this video

what you're saying makes so much sense. and would explain why my left back is sore right under my shoulder blade, i'm all arms. i need to be coiling up and pushing off the ground and unleashing

Just wanted to comment on the takeaway since I criticized it earlier in the thread, I can see in the rehearsals you are doing you have given it thought and are working on it. The rehearsals look very good, watch it back on video and see how the club head stays outside your hands to at least the halfway back point in your rehearsals? When you then take a full swing with a ball, you lose it somewhat, but that's natural, keep after it.

I would also recommend you take some backswings, pause halfway back and look back at the clubhead, if its in the right spot continue to top of backswing (its not flat enough yet but if the halfway point is good I bet it will be) and pause and look again, then go ahead and swing down and hit the ball. You will hit it AWFUL doing this, your timing is so screwed up, but I think it will help to at least get the club in the right spot in the backswing when a ball is present. If that starts getting grooved in you can eliminate the pauses and look at it on video and see if it starts to leak inside again.

That guy's got the right philosophy for you... to start with, do the move and get full weight transfer rather than full speed... if you engrain a bad rhythm you risk injury