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08-12-2013 , 05:53 PM
I've read Outliers, and I agree the 10,000 hours thing is pretty meaningless. The book is kind of dumb IMHO.

However......Dan was not required to ask anyone's permission to set out on this project. There's no law that says you must love the game, or have a scratch handicap, get a majority vote on a forum poll, or somehow demonstrate you are talented enough to play on the PGA Tour before you can take on a project like this. There's no admissions office you need to apply to to do this, or write a book, or start a business, or start some other project. If he did this and no one paid attention or cared then that would be his problem. This isn't something I would ever do myself, but if Dan can make it work and maybe learn something and make some money out of it then good for him.
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08-12-2013 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
I've read Outliers, and I agree the 10,000 hours thing is pretty meaningless. The book is kind of dumb IMHO.

However......Dan was not required to ask anyone's permission to set out on this project. There's no law that says you must love the game, or have a scratch handicap, get a majority vote on a forum poll, or somehow demonstrate you are talented enough to play on the PGA Tour before you can take on a project like this. There's no admissions office you need to apply to to do this, or write a book, or start a business, or start some other project. If he did this and no one paid attention or cared then that would be his problem. This isn't something I would ever do myself, but if Dan can make it work and maybe learn something and make some money out of it then good for him.
You are a 100% right. But, be prepared, if you are going to write:

**During this time, Dan plans to develop his skills through deliberate practice, eventually winning amateur events and obtaining his PGA Tour card through a successful appearance in the PGA Tour’s Qualifying School, or “Q-School”.**

That will have some people like me, who were pretty damn competitive golfers and know pro golfers who couldn't sniff the PGA Tour laugh. Especially because 10,000 hours means NOTHING. I don't know why someone would even think this applies to golf. I know people who have played a year that could beat the pants off someone who has played 20 years. I have gotten progressively worse even though I continue to log more hours.

This 'experiment' is just up a notch from me taking on Usain Bolt in the 100M and just below trying to win the lottery.
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08-12-2013 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dagolfdoc
Great insight. Thanks for that.

BTW, if you're playing a 5-hour round & I'm in the group with you, it would be work & not fun.
I belong to a country club that is fairly challenging and also allows 5-somes. And some people play for a decent amount of money and don't give putts. Molasses on Saturday and Sunday morning.
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08-12-2013 , 08:16 PM
haters gonna hate, but even BO stepped out a while back.
take it easy nutt nobody said this guy was better than you.
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08-12-2013 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt

This 'experiment' is just up a notch from me taking on Usain Bolt in the 100M and just below trying to win the lottery.
Good luck with track experiment against Bolt - we'll all be supporting your efforts, except the haters.
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08-12-2013 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
I belong to a country club that is fairly challenging and also allows 5-somes. And some people play for a decent amount of money and don't give putts. Molasses on Saturday and Sunday morning.
Even a 5-some should be able to play in under 4 hours, whether low or high handicap players. Slow play is the biggest detriment to the game right now. Anything over 4:20 & I'm losing my mind.
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08-12-2013 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by baumer
haters gonna hate, but even BO stepped out a while back.
take it easy nutt nobody said this guy was better than you.
I actually hate my name on here. I am not a GolfNutt. I like the game. And I was pretty good at one point, but not infatuated with the game.

He is a golf bum that posts his stats. Pure marketing genius that has allowed him any attention. How he got to be on a slew of TV shows and written about in magazines is the "Emperor Wears No Clothes".

Why do you think he has gone over 2 months not posting his handicap???

He sucks. Big deal. 99% of golfers do. And even in that rarefied 1% of gifted players, it is a tiny subset that can make a living at it.
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08-12-2013 , 08:45 PM
^ Agreed on him not posting handicap despite being a marketing ploy is obv a clear sign that he sucks, but its okay because he writes well and entertained people. It's probably a good time for this story to die off though.
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08-12-2013 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RaiNKhAN
^ Agreed on him not posting handicap despite being a marketing ploy is obv a clear sign that he sucks, but its okay because he writes well and entertained people. It's probably a good time for this story to die off though.
Agree. I really don't want to come across as a hater. This has actually opened my eyes how important marketing is. I think he would faced a lot less vitriol if he didn't bring up PGA, but he would have gotten a lot less attention. He is the one that sought the fame.

Will stop posting. I wouldn't have any problem if his handicap is higher! Getting better at golf isn't linear. Ups and downs and his lack of even sharing that is rather telling since that is a huge part of journey.
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09-18-2013 , 08:21 PM
Well, this guy hasnt broken 80 in about 3 months and has only posted 3 scores as well. If he doesnt quit this project this yeah i dunno...i really thought he would get down to about 3 or 4
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09-27-2013 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt

Especially because 10,000 hours means NOTHING. I don't know why someone would even think this applies to golf. I know people who have played a year that could beat the pants off someone who has played 20 years. I have gotten progressively worse even though I continue to log more hours.
I don't understand your point here. You don't have to practice to get better at golf? The more you work on your game the worse you get? That's absurd.
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09-28-2013 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pgjcbsn
I don't understand your point here. You don't have to practice to get better at golf? The more you work on your game the worse you get? That's absurd.
Yes. I know many people that work on their game and show zero improvement or get worse. Ingrain terrible habits. Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
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09-29-2013 , 12:17 PM
I agree there are good practice habits and bad practice habits but you still have to PRACTICE. You can't name one great player that didn't put in a significant amount of work to get to where they're at.
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09-30-2013 , 03:32 PM
What is your definition of great player?

This thread is about Dan and this ludicrous notion of 10,000 hours will lead to the PGA Tour. He won't even place in the top 10 at his local club country club championship.

He could practice 100,000 hours and it won't make a difference. He started way too old and doesn't have 'it'.
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09-30-2013 , 04:21 PM
He will be better after the 10,000 hours than he was when he started.
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10-01-2013 , 05:47 PM
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He will be better after the 10,000 hours than he was when he started.
So what. He would be better at the violin, surgery, or flying an airplane.

Doesn't mean he will be great. Or even good.
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10-04-2013 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt

Will stop posting.
had to.

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10-06-2013 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RaiNKhAN
had to.

Guilty!

In weak defense, responding to a post.
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03-27-2014 , 08:22 PM
So how are people predicting this will finish now? Dan is playing off a 4 handicap. Actually a solid handicap for most people although judging by his scores i still think its a suss handicap. My prediction was 2 handicap so he is getting close.
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04-01-2014 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pepper50000
So how are people predicting this will finish now? Dan is playing off a 4 handicap. Actually a solid handicap for most people although judging by his scores i still think its a suss handicap. My prediction was 2 handicap so he is getting close.
Why has he stop updating so many of the stats? I thought that was part of the point.

He just shot over 100.

I think this will end up as predicted...he will be another decent golfer.
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04-02-2014 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dagolfdoc
Even a 5-some should be able to play in under 4 hours, whether low or high handicap players. Slow play is the biggest detriment to the game right now. Anything over 4:20 & I'm losing my mind.
you said 4:20

and I agree I can walk with a 4-ball and go 3:45 any day unless some puke goes all Loupe on me then what are you going do? hit that pipe and watch him waggle.
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04-02-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pepper50000
So how are people predicting this will finish now? Dan is playing off a 4 handicap. Actually a solid handicap for most people although judging by his scores i still think its a suss handicap. My prediction was 2 handicap so he is getting close.
Here is something else that I realized is an issue.

I really think he is avoiding playing real tournament golf because he would have to post his scores.

The best way to get better is playing tournament golf.

This experiment is failing in my opinion because he is not really putting himself out there.
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04-03-2014 , 12:44 AM
We get it, dude - he stole your lunch in 5th grade. Get over it.
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04-03-2014 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
We get it, dude - he stole your lunch in 5th grade. Get over it.
No, you don't get it hack.
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04-03-2014 , 01:34 PM
Hey look, another "you aren't great at golf" quip. Never seen that before.

The level of asshurt you have displayed in this thread is truly embarrassing.
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