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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Yes, putting is mostly mental, but this is more of a technical discussion. As far as you're other statements, you are missing some things.
Let's look at two putts, one dead straight uphill, one dead straight downhill. To make this easier to envision, let's make the putts on a 20 degree slope.
Putt 1, straight up a 20 degree slope. What happens if you start the putt 1 foot to the right? It will break right away from the hole. What happens if you start the putt 1 foot to the left? It will break left away from the hole. If you don't start the putt precisely on line, it breaks away from the hole.
Putt 2, straight down a 20 degree slope. What happens if you start the putt 1 foot to the right? It will break left towards the hole. What happens if you start the putt 1 foot to the left? It will break right towards the hole. No matter where you start the putt, it breaks back towards the hole.
So it's pretty obvious which putt is easier to make. Extrapolate from there and see what you come up with as to the title of this thread. Hopefully you have or will read the entire thread, while there is much laughable BS from certain posters, there are also some really interesting thoughts and proofs.
Are you saying that because a putt that is straight uphill breaks away from the hole and a straight downhill putt breaks towards the hole? If this is what you are saying you would be correct but it doesn't make one easier than the other. It just means one is hit with different levels of force.
The title of the thread is "straight vs breaking putts" but you are turning a straight putt into a breaking one by using the uphill and downhill as breaking? I read this and thought it was referring to a straight putt vs one that breaks and so I thought in terms of right and left and not up and down. You gave two different breaking putt examples and say that one is easier. That doesn't make sense in reference to the question. Maybe it is made clearer in the thread, but I have not and most likely will not read the rest of the thread as 58 pages of this is too much for me and I'm not going to be visiting 2+2 much longer for seperate reasons. I will try and make time if you are saying it's worth a read.
You are saying that downhill putts are easier because they break towards the hole? So that would you make your answer breaking putts easier than straight ones? That doesn't make sense with your other example of using an uphill putt breaking away from the hole. Either breaking putts or straight putts was how I understood the question. So I'm confused by your response. It also isn't correct. A straight downhill putt started to the right of the hole doesn't break left and vice versa so I don't get what you are saying here.
Why do you give two examples that lead to different conclusions but doesn't answer the question unless it is a trick question? Your answer makes me think it's a trick question based on the uphill vs downhill example and both of them being straight but then the downhill putt breaks right and left? My brain has exploded. Why not give an example of a putt that breaks to the right and a putt that is straight? So if we are saying uphill and downhill and putting that in the category of breaks then how can one be easier than the other? So a straight putt has to be flat in this question? I don't know if I'm understanding that right or not but my answer would still be the same. If we are going purely technical and not the other aspect as far as mental, I think if a robot is given 100 putts that break and 100 putts that are straight (or flat if I'm understanding it correctly?) then I would say the robot would make fewer strokes to the hole that is straight and flat. Downhill putts break towards the hole but they also cause more 3 putts than any other putt by far. So not sure if I understand the question but now I don't think I even remember my name at this point.
Last edited by tilter29; 05-29-2021 at 10:58 AM.