Tomorrow being today (Tuesday) since I got home late from a session at talking stick playing some 2/3

Nm forgot my schedule.

Appreciate the offer. Got busy this week and will stick to my practice routine until I get back in town. Thanks though!

Durango/Rise, no worries. I've already got groups set for the next two days. In the future, I've pretty much been having Wednesday and Thursday off. So whenever you guys are down just let me know like 3-5 days in advance and we'll get it going.

Also, if anyone lurking or actively posting in this thread is halfway decent (can break 80 on a hard course from the tips) and not a total weirdo you are definitely more than welcome to come play w/ me and my buddies some time.

BTW, I'll take some pics/videos of the course and my lol swing tomorrow and post them in this thread tomorrow night.

westhoff's dig is definitely warranted. Funny thing is, we had almost no holdup putting together our foursome in Dallas last summer, so I suppose that's proof that it happens.

My game though...I'm starting to seriously doubt I could "break 80 on a hard course from the tips". I mean I COULD, but would probably bet the other side at present.

Next week is bad due to various obligations, but going forward from there I could make a Wednesday/Thursday happen given enough notice. It may take awhile to get me to commit, but once I'm in, I'm in. People who back out of golf without an exceptional reason are just above boy touchers on the Bad People power rankings.

Once summer hits and rates drop, I'll make it a point to nag everyone until we get an outing together. But all will be invited.......high handicaps and total weirdos as well.

Bump for swing vids.

Btw, to follow up on Tuq's post, Thursdays over the next month or so will be good for me.

God, after playing today I'm right with you. Course was super busy and we played 6 holes, then started over and played the front again. On the first 6 if I would have kept a legit score I would have probably been 15 over. Got it going on the second 9 though and was like -1 through 7 when we had to quit due to darkness.

I'll upload them tomorrow. I've been drinking since noon and just got back from Casino AZ lol.

Played Aguila today for the first time in like ten years. Greens juked me pretty bad. 50 bucks is about the max I'll pay this time of year so I'm glad it happened to be there. I laugh when places like Kenny Mac and Dobson are charging more. It was a perfect day to play and even though the round was almost 5 hours I got an elite sunset and full moon on the way home.

Here you guys go!

My swing in all of its glory:



Some pics (mainly from the 4th and 5th holes):

Funny, I haven't played Longbow in so long what is now evidently called the 4th and 5th were the 17th and 18th back then. The clubhouse was by what is now the 5th green and was evidently sold for development and a bunch of new holes built on the east side of the property to replace what was lost. Apparently it's every bit as good a course today but that was a great way to finish.

Aguila is great and I know durango agrees, but whenever I think of that course the absolute first thing that comes to mind is waiting. Don't think I've ever gotten around in under five hours. To be fair I haven't played it more than 5-6 times and probably mostly peak season, but it's on average the worst I can think of anywhere. Three group wait on the third tee. Three group wait on the eighth tee. Three group wait on the 16th tee. Wait on all the other tees and all the other shots. It just never seems to loosen up. Not sure if it's overbooking or utter lack of accountability for pace of play or what but it can and should be improved.

Tuq- damn, you old.

Longbow looks like it's in great shape. Thanks for the pics and swing vid.

If we ever get a weekly Wed/Thurs round going, Aguila should be on the list.

Playing Dobson ranch tomorrow morning early and the wigwam heritage on Sunday morning...my contact at wigwam couldn't get us out on gold but heritage(red) is alright and good for a cart fee

Is Wigwam over off of Litchfield on the WEST SIIIIIDE? With the tree lined fairways? Reminds me of the North Carolina courses I used to play all the time.

Oh I'm definitely old. At least old enough to note that Wigwam changed a course name again. Used to be West, then Red, now apparently Heritage. wtf. All I know is for best results play the 18th hole down the 10th fairway.

Yes, WEST SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE. Built during that early era around the same time as Orange Tree when all the courses were ridiculously flat and had endless acres of grass and trees. Imagination wasn't their strong suit back then.

I liked Wigwam when I played it. Sometimes it's good to get a change of scenery from all the desert tracks.

Looking to play this coming Thursday. Ideally Orange Tree, Legend Trail, Orangetree, or if KZ wants to get a Longbow game going that's cool too.

Kind of going stir crazy doing all these drills, then tweaked the tiniest muscle in by mid back and had to take a couple of days off. Plus the weather's elite right now. HAVE to get out.

Worst round of the year by far today for me....81 At Dobson ranch, so embarrassed I might stop posting in this thread lololololol

They had the expert pins out today but zero excuse just played like a donkey

We definitely need to get you out here soon then. They completely redesigned the course in 2003 (I'm fairly positive they only kept 4 of the original holes). #4, the hole you see me hitting driver on with the water left of the fairway and green, used to be #18 on the old design. Super awesome hole and very difficult. #5, the hole with red mountain in the background, I think used to run the complete opposite direction if memory serves me right.

I played the old design many times when I was younger, but the new design is definitely better in my opinion. (also, they switched the nines sometime between 2008-2010, because when I used to work out there back in the day between 2005-2008, our now #4 used to be #13).

I actually only have Tuesday and Wednesday off next week, we have some women's college tournament going on Wednesday-Sunday? (I still think there is public play on those days, but I'm not positive).

Also, I got lucky today and had another guy pick up my shift so I was able to get out and play. Brought my Dad and cousin out and we were able to play the front 9 with local legend Ryan Hogue (dude has been a gateway tour destroyer for years, it's simply ridiculous to me he hasn't made the PGA tour yet, like he holds the record at longbow with a 60, the record at Arizona Golf Resort w/ a 58, and has missed the 3rd stage of q school like 2-3 times by 1 shot, missed the cut at the phoenix open by 1 w/ a 2 day score of -3 with the lowest cut ever, i could go on lol).

My game is definitely coming around. I'm still not ready to compete in amateur tournaments but I feel like every time I go out and play I'm getting better. I've easily gone from about a 15 handicap to about a 3-4 in a month it seems like.

The funny thing is I saw just how far away from a professional golfer I am today. Hogue hurt his back and hasn't played in like 3 weeks and he shot -1 w/ no bogeys (easily could have been -5 on the front, had 3 legit horshoes, and a couple other lip outs), he was hitting his driver a solid 30 yards less because of his back problems and on the last couple holes his back was spasming hard on him.

Super cool dude by the way, most golfers of his level wouldn't play with a couple of hacks like my dad and cousin, but he was having a good time and giving them really solid advice on how to play better. He gave me some really good pointers too. What really struck me is just how awesome his wedge game and putting is. He didn't miss a green, but every time he had a wedge in he pretty much hit it inside 8 feet, and every putt he hit seemed to have almost absolutely perfect speed and just barely lip out. Really would like to see him make the tour in the next couple of years.

Also, took a pic of the 12th hole for you guys:

Played wigwam heritage (red course) today at 11 am...they had the greens firm and fast which was pretty surprising and nice to see. Started off bogey double and then played the next 16 in two under for one over for the day which was nice. Gotta find my game early in these rounds instead of spewing shots

Dude if I played 18 right now from the tips and kept score I'd be pretty stoked with sub 80 right now. The idea is for those to start turning into 65s this summer. Working harddd on my swing. Dividends paying off soon.

Still up to play this Thursday. If interested drop me a line.

I think I could play tues-Thursday this week

Aguila? Papago? Any other suggestions?

Longbow with kzy sounded pretty sweet but yeah if not then Aguila would be nice. Papago is still like $75 I think. Are we ready to finally get a group together? I can play tomorrow, Thursday or basically any day next week

I'm down for Thursday at Aguila. Anyone interested PM me what time of day is good for you. I'll make a time tonight or tomorrow morning.

Rise I could play Aguila if you can find a decent price, I could play just about anytime pm me man and I will give u my number.

I got another buddy and myself trying to play tomorrow actually....we can play anytime....pm me kzy for longbow