Daly has what, 3 other tour wins and one in the Tiger Woods era? Winning 2 US Opens is superior to the Open at St. Andrews and the PGA at Crooked Stick. North won at Cherry Hills and Oakland Hills, that's pretty solid stuff.

Both of Daly's majors were won on courses where there was no trouble for him whatsoever off the tee. He could just bomb it past all the difficulty.

His is an odd case, but North's two are stronger than Daly's for that reason.

BO

interesting question......... i'm thinking sergio does so much better than tons and tons of one-time major winners. two-time ups the comparison, but there's still some strange ones

i think a modern criticism of PGA tour is that tons of guys have 6 bedroom luxury mansions with tons of cars in the drive-way and haven't achieved that much............. but given the number of I-Bankers or Hedge Fund managers that haven't done much substantial who are even richer, it doesn't seem that crazy. thank tiger!!

Mayfair could get #9 tomorrow, obv if he never played again about 1% of the golfing public would remember him, less if his putting stroke wasn't ridiculously bad. I wonder how much money he will make compared to someone like Immelman.

i thought it was 6 but he did win the US am and maybe some international wins. but i think this is sorta the point...would he trade them all for one masters? im guessing yes.

its like, mayfair and cabrera palyed together today which would you rather be?? mayfair has more wins but its cabrera by a landslide. fudge the numbers to fit the op and its still cabrera..for me.

#125 on the money list from 2009 made $600,000. That's sick.

Billy Mayfair has $18.1mm in career earnings, and unless i'm reading something wrong, he only has 5 wins.

http://www.pgatour.com/players/00/17/66/

You can't compare Mayfair and Cabrera based on the PGA Tour because Cabrera is primarily an international player.

i don't know, cabrera has averaged 15 events played on the pga tour over the last 4 years and has played 8 events so far this year. Cabrera has ~$10mm less in earning on the pga tour (over less time). It depends on what you want to be known as, someone who won a couple majors or someone who had a solid career and quietly made a **** load of money.

but Cabrera has that European suaveness going for him and Mayfair is an ugly ass albino dude.

oh I could have sworn they said he had 8 on the telecast today, only reason I brought it up

nevermind, Cabrera is a stud over in Europe.

http://www.europeantour.com/european...ord/index.html

Yes, don't sell Cabrera short. He's legit.

sorry but putting average joe american Mayfair in the same bracket as Angel Cabrera is just ridiculous. 1 major > 5 PGA tour wins.

He's one of the least marketable golfers. He has half as many wins as op, but I'd bet his unofficial money is >20m.

Limon,

Had you rather be Mayfair or Craig Perks?

it's hard to make a legit comparison using real golfers,
but here's a list of recent major winners with total PGA Tour wins in () :

Rich Beem (3)
Ben Curtis(3)
Todd Hamilton(2) *11 Japanese Tour wins
Trever Immelman(2) *4 European Tour wins
Michael Campbell (1) *8 European Tour wins
Paul Lawrie(1) *5 European Tour wins
Shaun Micheel (1)

Now, lets make up some stuff just for fun:
1 major = 5 wins
1 PGA Tour win = 2 European wins
1 PGA Tour win = 3.5 Japanese wins

Given this, we can now compare:

Shaun Micheel vs.
(non-major winners on tour with 5 wins)
Scott Verplank
Billy Mayfair
Rocco Mediate

Rich Beem and Ben Curtis vs.
Peter Jacobson
Joey Sindelar
Gil Morgan

Paul Lawrie, Michael Campbell, Trever Immelman, Todd Hamilton vs.
Steve Stricker
Adam Scott
KJ Choi
Brad Faxon
Fred Funk
Jay Haas

For the most part, I'd rather have the non-major winners bank account, career satisfaction, life experience, etc.

what the hell did Todd Hamilton win? And I don't remember Rich Beem winning anything.

Exactly!

Hamilton 2004 British Open
Beem 2002 PGA

mayfair i guess. perks has no major

True, but Mayfair hasn't 10 wins. Half that. Perks has the Players Championship. (1/2 major?)


There is no right or wrong answer to the op.
But imo the thread overestimates having a locker at Augusta, and underestimates the benefits of a (relatively) longer career.

it seems like the no major lists are much older then the dudes w/ 1 major. like you said its hard to compare.

i mean think about mickleson before his 1st masters he already had like 2o wins. im guessing he would have rather won his 1st masters 5 years earlier then went on a no win drought for a while before winning his second than have had all those wins and no major.

in the end though i think 10 wins is the best option in retrospect because the way the op is set up we arent accomplishing anything so we should just go for the money.

How do you not remember Beems win? That dance was epic.

I like B here. Multiple majors is big.

All that shows me is that Andy is a one-trick pony as well. He played solid par golf, which gave him two US Opens. Jack Nicklaus always said that "anyone" could win one US Open, but only a great player could win two. I think he stopped saying that after Andy won his second.

John Daly has three non-major wins, as well as another European Tour win. and Andy North has ONE.

Andy North has 17 top ten PGA tour finishes. John Daly has 38.

Not even close. Andy North.

Been real interested in this topic and finally have something to input. I like the 10 wins also, but thought of this today. With 10 win career and no majors are all of you ok with the title "Best player to never win the big one"? I don't know if 10 random wins will do that but say 3 of em are the Players Champ wins. Can you all (10 win pickers) live with the fact that you couldn't win the big one and are labeled a choker