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03-21-2012 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
I mean I would be interested in seeing these studies bc I find these topics interesting, but proving that people are lazy does nothing with regards to the fact that people always want more than they have.

You don't have to be a non-lazy person to want more than you have. Lazy people want more too.
But at what level of effort? And for what benefit?
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03-21-2012 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ship---this
I am just more of the opinion (with regards to Tiger as well) that what do you need ALL THAT MONEY for? More doesn't make you happier. Same goes for Jim Furyk...I don't get wearing a terrible looking hat for a little more money. I don't know what he got, but it has to be right around market value so wouldn't you rather just wear something that looks decent and not max out all value from all angles?
Furyk doesn't strike me as a guy who gives a **** about how stylish his hat looks. So in his mind, he's not compromising anything by wearing a hat with a stupid logo in exchange for a little more money.

I don't think your preference for vanity is any more or less altruistic than Furyk's preference for money.
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03-21-2012 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeZero
But at what level of effort? And for what benefit?
It's different for everyone. I'm not saying people will always do something to get more, I'm just saying that people want more than they have.
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03-21-2012 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Absolution
(that's 10M in pension right?)
Uh, no...they changed that. Straight cash upon winning it.
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
Furyk doesn't strike me as a guy who gives a **** about how stylish his hat looks. So in his mind, he's not compromising anything by wearing a hat with a stupid logo in exchange for a little more money.

I don't think your preference for vanity is any more or less altruistic than Furyk's preference for money.
Fair enough, I actually was also referring to the pure comfort of the hat as much as the looks. I have issues with hats being uncomfortable due to large head syndrome. That hat looks uncomfortable to me. Kind of like shirts...IF I ever get on Tour (looking unlikely, I know) I will only wear a couple of specific brands of shirts. I know a few guys who wore Grand Slam crap for the money while on Tour and they regretted it due to the wear and feel. Just like I also would NEVER sign a deal for a driver or a putter, irons whatever. But if I get to playing poorly I would want the opportunity to switch my equipment and get it right.
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03-21-2012 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
It's different for everyone. I'm not saying people will always do something to get more, I'm just saying that people want more than they have.
More what? More problems? More grief? More junk? I disagree. The desire of indiscriminate want contradicts logical reasoning.
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03-21-2012 , 02:15 PM
Geez nevermind
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03-21-2012 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hard2tel
The Haney book is just pure ego imo...money has little to do with it. He loves this position of being the gatekeeper to Tiger's dirty laundry.

Basically he's a big attention whore.
i think this is pretty true

plus he appears to be real butthurt about those popsicles, i bet that was part of his motivation
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03-21-2012 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
It's different for everyone. I'm not saying people will always do something to get more, I'm just saying that people want more than they have.
I agree its all about status. Get as much as you can. There is never to much.

With Furyk I saw the shirt and thought wow 5 hour Energy drink? I know here in Canada they are considering regulating some of these as people abuse the crap out of them. Also didn't strike me as your typical golf endorsement.

My curiosity is Why am I troll for being negative about Tiger.
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03-21-2012 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
Furyk doesn't strike me as a guy who gives a **** about how stylish his hat looks. So in his mind, he's not compromising anything by wearing a hat with a stupid logo in exchange for a little more money.

I don't think your preference for vanity is any more or less altruistic than Furyk's preference for money.
Pretty sure Furyk would wear a dirty diaper on his head as long as it covered up his bald spot
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03-21-2012 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
Pretty sure Furyk would wear a dirty diaper on his head as long as it covered up his bald spot
That's true, but more because I'm sure he doesn't want to have his head turn into leather from the sun. I'm sure Jim couldn't care care less about being bald at this point.
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03-21-2012 , 03:17 PM
If it were me I'd wear the widest brim hat I could find that did not interfere with my swing.
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03-21-2012 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hard2tel
The Haney book is just pure ego imo...money has little to do with it. He loves this position of being the gatekeeper to Tiger's dirty laundry.

Basically he's a big attention whore.
I can agree with this. Good post.
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03-21-2012 , 03:50 PM
Sucks to watch Tiger stripe the ball off the tee and shoot even par.

It was always the other way around...if he could just play from the fairway, the field had no chance.

I'm still convincing myself that all he needs is another couple of months (at most) of injury free tournament golf and the putts will start falling. His short game is clearly leaps and bounds better than it was just a few months ago.

I could just be in denial, of course.

Overall though Tiger fans can't be happier with how things have turned out since the withdrawal.

Bay Hill, baby.

One. ****ing. Time.
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03-21-2012 , 03:54 PM
I was watching Tiger on the greens yesterday. Did anybody see an Els-like putting stroke there? If so he better get that corrected.
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03-21-2012 , 04:34 PM
I still don't get why you want Tiger friggin Woods to win another tournament, it's evil.
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03-21-2012 , 04:41 PM
Because like the NBA that is where amazing happens.
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03-21-2012 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ship---this
Damn it, the wrong guy took my carefully laid first timer troll bait....my comment above was purely trolling lozen and Spenda and I guess it didn't work since Spenda skipped it over.


You are still the Internet master for avoiding my trolling...I will continue to learn from you.
It's very easy to troll me IRL, but on the interweb I'm immune
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03-21-2012 , 07:27 PM
WRT Haney, I don't think the book is pure ego, it's just business. Haney is never going to be considered a swing guru by a lot of top pros so he has to do things like the Haney project and the book to keep his name out there, so he can compete with the guys like Leadbetter. The fame brings the business, no publicity is bad publicity for a guy like him.
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03-21-2012 , 11:55 PM
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03-22-2012 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Absolution
Am not for any particular player. I just like to watch good golf.
def something a canadian would say
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03-22-2012 , 01:14 AM
Haney cites Corey Carroll, one of Woods' closest friends at Isleworth, as saying Woods injured his right Achilles tendon doing Olympic-style weightlifting as he returned from reconstructive knee surgery in December 2008.

Haney also tells of a woman who approached him during an outing in Minnesota last year. Her husband was a Navy SEAL in California and told her Woods came in for training in 2007 at a Kill House -- an urban-warfare simulator -- and "got kicked pretty hard in the leg, and I think he hurt his knee pretty bad."

Haney said that matched a story from Carroll, who said Woods revealed to him the complete tear of his left knee ligaments really happened in a Kill House when he had lost his balance and been kicked in the knee.

"My immediate thought upon hearing Corey's account, which so closely paralleled that of the woman in Minneapolis, was that it was true," Haney writes. "And if so, it meant that if Tiger never catches Jack Nicklaus, it will very likely have as much to do with the time and physical capacity he lost as a result of his bizarre Navy SEALs adventure as anything else."
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03-22-2012 , 01:42 AM
yea couldn't be the flat out awful positions you got his swing in Haney
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03-22-2012 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Absolution
Greed and pride. That's the only explanation. Stevie Williams came across the same way. Like him or not, Tiger made these guys very wealthy and very famous (more than they would have been without, even if they were already wealthy). That should be enough. Maybe they don't like Tiger's attitude or ego or whatever, but come on, there's a better way to use what was given to you to make more money. Stevie can parlay his success with tiger into caddying for the best players in the world for the rest of his life and making more millions of dollars. Why can't that be enough? He could also get some sponsorship deals I'm sure. Haney gets a television show, sponsorships, teaching aids to sell, instructional videos to sell, television appearances, more coaching deals with the best players, and a lot of rich people willing to pay him thousands for hours of coaching time. Seems like a good deal.
In your scenario because Tiger made these guys rich or the tools to be rich they should have to put up and shut up with just about anything then? Comon obviously Tiger crossed lines with these guys as he did with Butch before that. While Haney and Williams may be dicks anyway neither has gone out of their way to spare Tiger, so read into that what you want. Remember Tiger sold out his wife, kids and family. These guys are nothing but next in line. Giving Tiger a pass here is laughable.

Just face it Tiger is the Bjorn Borg of golf with a good twist of ugly. Bjorn was famous for practicing and reading comic books in his hotel room during his career. When pushed, his personality off court could never match his on court persona leaving a lot of fans unfulfilled. The below surface of Tiger has taken this to whole new level with his rather basal personal "habits"and his treatment of those closest to him that rarely if ever paint Tiger in a positive way. In the end it hard for people to reconcile this with the Tiger that had been sold to them prior to '09.

If he had a just shared a bikini model or 2 once in a while none of this would be happening. imo

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03-22-2012 , 02:18 AM
lol @ the Jmac nuthugger ripping on Borg in a golf thread. Didn't Jmac write mostly positive things about Borg in his autobiography? Seemed like he genuinely liked Borg.
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03-22-2012 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy
lol @ the Jmac nuthugger ripping on Borg in a golf thread. Didn't Jmac write mostly positive things about Borg in his autobiography? Seemed like he genuinely liked Borg.
He does like Borg but their friendship developed after their careers. I used Borg as a comparo because he was a world beating invincible talent on the court while off the court he was somewhat simple and unsophisticated a fact that bewildered fans. You're right though Borg shouldn't be thrown in with Tiger otherwise.
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