Weird

People are saying there is video of the marshal putting his hands down or something like that. Anyone confirm?

Meh, I don't really care either way.

How far was Tiger from Sergio distance-wise?

If I was 10yds+ away from my playing partner, I'd have no hesitation pulling a club while he's hitting. I realize I don't play with huge galleries but still . . .

About 50 yards

They were ~50 yards apart with about 200 people between them to where there is no way Tiger could see him.

Who thinks about waiting to see if their playing partner is ready in order to pull a club from their bag? No way that was going through Tiger's head.

You live and you learn.

Tiger should be more conscious about this now as it can have an impact on the other player in the group.

The drop was totally fine. Have any of you that are talking about this actually played the course? Everyone agrees it was a complete snipe correct? Well to get where it did in the water it would have to cross further up than the ignorant conspiracy theorist wish. It is basic geometry for crying out loud. The notion that everyone has to try to turn everything into something is so absurd.

Also, I have to be honest at this point with regards to the GOAT debate. I am all for the Jack camp because I am assuming you are just trolling, and I love a good troll. But let’s just say that maybe you aren’t trolling for the sake of saying it. There is literally not a single point one can make outside the number 18 for Jack’s GOAT resume. Literally you can’t make a single statistical argument other than he won more majors by the time he was almost 10 years older than Tiger is now.

Is Tiger a good guy? No and thankfully I am not married to him so I really don't care. Would it be nice if he were more like Webb Simpson? Sure, whatever, but I certainly don't look to sports for my life role models and if you or your kids do I suggest expanding your horizons.

Is Tiger the greatest Major champion of all time? Not yet and if he doesn’t surpass 18 he won’t be.

Honestly, how can anyone possibly think that he is not the greatest to have ever played the game? The PGA Tour fields he competes in every single time he tees it up are 100 times deeper than any major field from Jack’s era. It truly is not even remotely close. Again, if you are trolling I say good job, but if you truly think Jack > Tiger you are just completely clueless about golf.

Agree with everything but the drop. Not sure how were idiots for questioning a drop he took when the networks will not show the replay, the announcers question it? His last run this year has convinced me he is the GOAT.

Am I a fan no way I despise him for his arrogance and being bigger than the game, lack of respect for the game or the fans. Do I want to see him in the hunt every week ? Yup Do I cheer when his ball hits the flag and goes in the water? You Bet Do I think he used PED's ? No doubt about it.

Finally someone with a + handicap chimes in so BO can't play his "I'm better at golf than you and so my opinion is fact" card. If he were still here.

hard-hitting stuff right here.

Tiger gives honest, straightforward interview.

Were to believe that interview is real?

America's finest news source.

Being a CDN Never heard of it. Is this authentic or just crap?

I'm not trolling. Jack is goat and 18 is the only number you need. Just like Marino will never be Joe Montana cause Joe Cool has 4 rings.

Nobody argues that the tour is deeper but I damn well know the top 5-10 guys were a hell of a lot tougher to beat than the pussies Tiger has faced. Not even close.

They were harder to beat because Jack wasn't head and shoulders better than they were? Yes, you're right. Jack wasn't that good compared to his competition.

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You make great points, I just don't understand who this is directed to. There are like, 3 people left in the entire forum who are continuing to assert Jack > Tiger.

Leo with another horrible comparison once again. You compare a guy with no rings to a guy with 4 rings. Funny stuff right there. The Tour is tougher today. Face the music, the fat lady is singing Tiger is GOAT

Wasn't I one of the three? So its down to Two

I just threw out a random number. I know Leo and Mucks. It's a 227 page thread so I'm sure there might be one or two more, but Ship-This really didn't need to direct that at anyone.

As far as Montana > Marino, Montana is ahead because of a COMBINATION of overall individual performance and rings. But the difference in who is ranked where as a player is minimal. Poor analogy.

It is a prominent satire site in the U.S. very funny stuff.

I loved it when they fooled the Iranians: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/28/world/...s-agency-duped

I'm saying that using a blimp video or even a video from behind doesn't give you 3d perspective. Somebody earlier said something about there is no way people could be precise with a drop...and while yes that's true to a point you have to declare a spot somewhere. Shockingly as well, Tour pros actually can be fairly precise with where a ball crossed. My point with my post is that I have played that course numerous times and I can assure if a ball is hooking there is no way it could land in the water where it did without crossing fairly far up. To need a drop further back would require a straight pull with no curve to land where it did.

I don't think you're an idiot lozen, just the idea that everything has to be a conspiracy or that Tiger gets special rules. And I can appreciate the fact you are a mature adult capable of changing your opinion as more information is revealed. Kudos!
well, fair enough. I certainly dont read as much here anymore but when I saw there was blimpgate talk here I assumed there was still credible debate going on. But now I see Leo's forces are dwindling.


Then, at Leo from above....lololololololol that jack had tougher competition. Deeper fields by definition mean a different cast of competitors virtually every week. But one guy is there every time he puts the peg in the ground. Look at his career top 3 %! The fact the same guys were always top,ten back in the day doesn't show they were grittier or non pussies as you think. It just shows that there wasn't anyone else in the field worth a **** so they just kept trading off who would win between a couple guys. I grew up playing with crampton, lietzke, weibring, and a few others....in hindsight they were terrible compared to anyone on Tour today. The fact that lietzke could literally not even pick up a club and go out and win and compete is a great sign of how natural he was yes, but it was a bigger sign of how weak the fields were. There is not a single player on any Tour today who tries less than lietzke did.

I don't think there's a logical argument that Tiger is the best golfer of all time (I'd love to say Jack, but it's just not the case). The thing that puzzles me is the blind love (& hate) so many people give to Tiger. I'm not a Tiger fan - I'd rather see just about anyone else win (except Scott Hoch), but I'm really amazed at how people just worship this guy. He is an amazing player & does things that no human before has done with a club, but some act like he can do no wrong. I guess I just don't understand that aspect of it. Maybe I'm an "underdog" person or whatever, but I don't get how someone either has to be a "hater" or a "lover" of Tiger. Yes, he's had more highlights in his career than everyone else combined, but why is it wrong if someone doesn't like or pull for him? No doubt off the course he's been a wreck, as have several other PGA Tour players, but that doesn't really influence my opinion of him on the course. I guess I just find it fascinating that the "lovers" argue to no end about things like his drop at Augusta & TPC that there's no way it could be wrong, and the haters find the smallest things that could be wrong. It's crazy that fans of Tiger would think (even argue) that he wouldn't use "gamesmanship" since it's widely known that he has used it to get inside competitors heads (it's legal). I appreciate the amazing things he does and can't explain how good he is, but it is really funny how things would be viewed if someone else did/acted the same as him.

He has raised the bar very high, someone eventually will be better, maybe not in my lifetime, but just as he's better than Jack who bested Arnie/Hogan/Snead/Tom Morris/etc I just think the haters & lovers of Tiger should be realists - it's ok to say "I think Tiger is the greatest player ever, but that drop was probably wrong" or "while I want him to win every week, he did act like an $$" - all the stats point to his dominance, no doubt and haters need to accept that, even if you dislike him on or off the course.

Sorry for the rant - I've just seen so many blind statements (not just here, but twitter/fb/etc) on both sides it just really blows my mind.