The only way to be a legend is to birdie the last 26 holes at Augusta. Anyone else is a huge pussy.

Just to wrap this up in a bow, this is the argument. The total fields are considerably deeper today, leading in general to more condensed scoring throughout the field, including at the top. See: scoring gap. The top players are also as strong or stronger (i.e. Singh=Trevino, Mickelson=Palmer, etc etc), but the depth of the rest of the field dilutes the numbers of those top players. See: winners of majors.

And with that, I'm going to try not to respond anymore to Leo (at least for the day).

Ok those are his top 10's vs multi major winners now do Jacks 2nds to multi major winners forget top 10's that would take you all day.

Tiger has some records that most likely will never ever be broken. The only record Jack has right now if Im not mistaken is the 18 majors and thats going to be broken anyways. Sounds like the GOAT to me. Jacks argument is just awful as there isnt one

cant edit from phone. Start with 1960 runner up to arnold in us open

Well, Jack's weiner has only seen the inside of Mrs. Nicklaus. That's gotta count for like 2-3 majors right there.

Tiger's philandering is unfair and should discount his majors by like 5-6. He can't have his cake and eat it, too! No fair!

6 of 18. TW has that listed on his website.

This is circular. When you have 50 guys that avg within x shots of the best 5 instead of 25 within x shots of the best 5, of course the best 5's total wins are going to be less. Go reread some of NXT's work on this.

I'll dumb it down a little bit for you though.

Scenario 1: Player A averages 70.0, Player B averages 72.0, and Players C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K all average 75.0. In this 10 person tournament, how often does player A win?

Scenario 2: Player A averages 70.0, Players B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K all average 72.0. In this 10 person tournament, what % of the time does A win?

Obv you can't come up with exact numbers, but is the win % for A higher in Scenario 1 or 2?

not sure if this is a joke, but if not, it kinda explains your crazy thought process.

however it doesnt explain your hatered for tiger and his past transgressions.

Here's the problem with your logic. Majors are a different animal than regualr tour events. You have to throw out whatever they do in regular events. The self pressure in a Major is there. You know the first is the hardest.

you can use this in other areas. Tony Romo is great on paper. Hes good in the regular season how is he in the playoffs?

yeah thats the best picture for you YB. Tiger is Tom Brady in a league full of Tony Romos

Face it leo you could not be more wrong. Don't try to compare a team sport to an individual sport. It is meaningless.

And stfu about pressure, you don't know sht about pressure when it comes to golf. His logic is perfectly fine, yours on the other hand is utterly ******ed. You can not just throw out regular tour events. WTF is wrong with you?

Romo isn't even bad so I guess thats a compliment? Ever actually look at his numbers overall? They are not bad. Would you say Manning sucks? His playoff record sure does for his caliber. You just can't compare the 2 sports.

Jack was the one playing with a bunch of no bodies besides for a select few. Tiger is the one playing with the stiff competition crushing Jacks numbers

Sure you can. Are you going to feel more pressure on the final table bubble of a 2 dollar 45man or the sunday mil esp if you satty in. The sun mil or the wsop main event final table. Of course you are. There's no comparison.

Regular events don't mean a thing unless you are a Tony Romo. If you are a Tom Brady they are just a means to an end. Ask any player in the league to his face and he will tell you only 1 team has a good season each year. Just 1. Nothing else matters it's just a paycheck.

Peyton? Yep he is Phil grossly underperformed for his ability. Sorry you don't have a leg to stand on. You go by numbers. People who know what they are doing go by film. Nobody thinks he should have gotten that money so I guess that makes you Tiger's Jerry Jones.

I think a decent comparison to Jack vs. Tiger would be a young Doyle vs. Ivey.

Jack and Doyle had a really shallow talent pool. The other few good players looked great because there was such a huge drop off in talent that barely anyone else could even compete. Flash forward to the present and golf and poker have incredibly deep talent pools. So deep that it just becomes a variance-fest. The only reason Tiger hasn't succumbed to the variance as much as others is because he's a 10BB/100 winner while the rest are 2BB/100 winners.


And LOL if Leo is really a poker pro. He must just play with his guts and tenacity because he has no idea what he's talking about regarding anything.

Poker is a game, not sure Id feel alot of pressure in either situation but I have played tons of tons so I have grown used to it.

Ask Brady or Rodgers if they care about regular season games. You bet your ass they do. You have to do well in the regular season to make the playoffs so of course it matters.

As for the bold you couldn't be more wrong. You can easily have a good season and not win it all. Look at the Colts, Redskins and the Seahawks. All rookie QBs that made the playoffs and probowl. Ask them or the coach and they will say it was a great season considering the circumstances. Your just a ******

Do you close your eyes when you watch Tiger? He does things Jack couldn't even dream of so I don't know why you keep bringing up film. Just gives more evidence to Tiger

If regular tour stops don't have pressure, then why did Jack choke at them so often?

His win rate at regular non-pressure tourstops is significantly less than that of Tiger's.

I bet Leo moved the goalposts from old Cowboys' stadium to their new stadium a few years ago. He's that good at it.

While I do often compare golf to poker for people who don't think I or others should play or that they don't think we can make money doing it I don't think it's close enough for golf to compare in this argument.

There is more variance in poker. I know you can hit the flag and have ball spin off green or your competition can have it kick out of woods etc. I just think it's less of a factor in golf vs poker.

Don't pretend like you know anything about variance.

Everything you've said about Jack is akin to saying Stu Ungar got a lot of money in on a gutshot in the '97 WSOP because he just knew he'd hit his card because he brought a second gear to the final table. It's nonsense.

Ivey had no guts, no balls, when Moneymaker knocked him out in 2003 when he had a monster hand. What a pussy Ivey was.

These are basically things you are saying about Jack/Tiger.

Man I'm sorry you are wrong. Ok golf might be your world but football is mine. You get those guys away from a mic and they will tell you only the superbowl matters. Did you fail to read the means to an end in regards to regular season games?

Yes when you are facing life changing money in a turny you got in for free knowing what it can do for your kids you feel it. No doubt about that the more you get there the more comfortable you are. The more you win the more comfortable you are but a guy that crushes 10 buck turnys and is #1 on ss for that will be feeling something completely different at the main event.

You sound incredibly stupid when you bring up football talk so surely that can't be your world either. What else ya got?

please dont relate poker to the topic. seems impossible but it makes you sound even dumber.

by your logic phil helmuth is a better poker player than patrik antonious because phil has many wsop bracelets and patrick has none.

Hagen has 11 majors but no slams. Exactly how could he have won all the slam events? As a pro he couldn't enter the amateur events. The last of his 11 wins came in 1929. The Masters didn't start until 1934 and wasn't even considered a major until much later.

Hogan's era didn't give much importance to majors either. In 1953 the PGA and Open Championships were played at the same time.