Actually recorded a range session today. The whole point of the range session is to get footage of myself swinging the golf club so I actually had nothing I wanted to work on. I'm posting this to get better and try and keep me motivated to keep getting better.

Hopefully the footage is good. This range sucks as it's a bit dark and I couldn't move the camera anymore away. Couldn't do side on as their was just no room to do it.

So I'm probably like a 14-18 HC don't officially have one but given what my scores are I'm in and around these numbers,

As you can see from the videos I'm a very patty patty type player. I don't hit it very far nore will I hit offline a ton. The thing I want to most improve is my distances. I know everybody say's they want more but I only hit my driver like 200-220 on average. If everything works out perfectly I can get it to like 240-260 but that's very rare.

I've struggled with a super high ball flight with all of my clubs, You can tell more with the driver though. I have times where I feel like I caught the ball super good only to find out that it's spun up in the air and stalled.

I'm going to post 2 videos one with a Iron (Which I think is a 7, but could be a 9) and the other swing is with a driver. Both have normal and slowed down speeds.


So yeah if you spot something that I'm doing wrong (Probably a lot I imagine) Then feel free to post.

I suggest watching these on youtube.

I see a couple things that you need to change. It starts with your set-up and you are aimed too far to the right, especially with the driver. You need to aim parallel left of your target. Imagine railroad tracks going from the ball to the target. The track on the right (looking from behind) will run at your target and you want to aim your body parallel to that line. This will make it easier to swing the club on plane. This will feel akward at first but won't last long.

Now that you are set up correctly, it will make this next step easier. Halfway back position of your backswing when your left arm is parallel to the ground, the club should be pointing between your feet and the ball. Your club is pointing right of the ball which is too flat and the club needs to be more vertical. When you practice this, notice how the club becomes lighter when the club is more up and down and not horizontal.

https://imgur.com/a/94MGQPY

Looking at that image you can see where you are and where you need to be. To do this, take your normal set up and start your backswing by moving your arms and hands straight up. Let's say the ball is North, your left foot is west and your right foot is east. You want to take the clubhead and move it straight north with your arms and hands. This along with turning your shoulders will get the club on plane.

Just focus on this part for now, I don't want to give you too much information and have your brain explode. Let me know if you have any questions but this will get you on a good start.

Nice Thanks!

I find it a bit baffling that from what you feel like your swing looks like compared to what it actually looks like.

I'll do some dry drills with this before I get to the course tomorrow and hopefully I can feel what you are saying. I've always known that I've been a bit to flat but never knew how to go about fixing it.

The most noticable thing about your swing is that its very flat.
Your hands at the top of your swing are too low.
Steepen your takeaway and dont drop your hands to a lower position on the downswing.
Other than that I cant see too much wrong with your swing.
Your adress position is good also you have a good smooth rhythm to your swing.

IMO the number one reason you lack distance is your front shoulder. The backswing is all about loading tension between the upper body and lower body through shoulder turn. Focus on turning as far as you can with your shoulders while keeping your left arm mostly straight and just bending your wrists a bit.

The main thing is that you go way past parallel with the club but you stop turning your shoulders too early.

Then once you have that tension loaded, hold it as long as possible by keeping that left shoulder tucked even as the hips start turning through the ball.

So you need to see an instructor. Please don't take the advice on an internet forum.

There is a lot going on here and that's totally to be expected given your index. There are two ways to get longer:

1) Improve your mechanics such that you hit the ball more consistently and solidly

2) Increase your club head speed and thus the ball speed

There is a ton of low hanging fruit with the mechanics in almost any player's case. For you specifically I think you can improve: your takeaway/backswing, your transition and your downswing. Basically everything can be cleaned up. My hunch is that if you worked with an instructor you could add considerable distance relatively quickly.

Good luck. Update this thread as you go through the improvement process.

The alignment comment helped me a ton, I used to address this on every shot but I guess I got lazy with it and went into a bad habit. Felt like I could swing towards the target a bit better and more freely.

In regards to the being flat, I tried some of what you said and it started very well almost to well, I think I was gaining a little more distance by doing this. Ball flight changed as well to a more lower more penetrating ball compared to what I am used to. I did however run into some problems, I started shanking it, I'm not going to try this until after the Charity event I have on Friday.


This has been quite a common theme with me even back like 6 or 7 years ago I was like this. I remember I didn't really even turn at all and because of this basically my left arm would just crash into my body and bend giving me 0 width.




Thanks, I do take things with a pinch of salt when it comes to getting advice when it comes to the golf swing. So much stuff out there the worst thing is you'll try and assess yourself without looking at the swing and going by feel then people including me in the past go down the YouTube rabbit hole and try and find a fix, When the problem your having isn't even related to what you think.

I am looking to get lessons I'm just trying to figure out who with. Not many coaches around me that have a launch monitor, I'm pretty sure I want to go down that route. My previous lessons have been without them and I didn't find I learnt much this was probably before Launch monitors were readily available though so no fault of the coaches.


Thanks guys I'll update once I have one. I've got to say though I'm hitting the ball the best I've hit it. Again not far as I'd like and any long course is going to rip me a new one but I'm consistently striking the ball well.

Where are you located? I agree technology is table stakes now for a teacher

I live in the South of the UK, I know a few decent low handicappers, so I think I ask them and see who they recommend if they can.

Honestly I think my best bet is to find a few coaches and try them out see what works best for me in the sense my learning style vs his teaching style.

Question and I know you can answer this in a very general manner, But how often would you go see a coach?

Depends on your goals and how much practice time you can put in between sessions. I would discuss with the instructor

Alignment is often overlooked as well as the set-up. The setup is the most important position, you will never find a good player that has a poor setup. I highly recommend always using a club or an alignment stick and laying one down to make sure you are always lined up correctly so that when you go to the course it will feel natural.

As far as the shanks go or (the pitch out to the right) that is an easy fix. A shank is caused by your hands being farther away from you at impact than they were at address. So on your downswing, you need to feel like that you are hands are closer to you at impact and your won't shank anymore.

Check out this link and I took screenshots of your swing at impact and then overlayed it with a picture of where you are at address.

You can see that even when you weren't shanking that you still are closer to the ball at impact than at address.

https://imgur.com/a/JCUZw8v

https://imgur.com/a/JP1lbff

https://imgur.com/a/I8FDLmw

Fixes:

1. Stand a little farther away from the ball and a little taller

2. Keep your hands and arms out in front of you while you turn your shoulders. A great drill is to take your normal setup and without moving your lower body or your shoulders, cock your wrists to put the club at a 90 degree angle. From here just turn your shoulders and you will be in the correct position. Then do this a couple of times and then recreate that same feeling when you swing.

3. Keep your hips in the box by maintaining your spine angle

I hope these make sense and helps you visual what I am talking about and what you need to do. If you have any questions please let me know.

Don't make a lesson without talking to the person first. I would call your area PGA pros and ask them all the same questions and compare their answers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking them questions like:

"How many years have you taught?"

"How long have you been a PGA Pro?"

"I am struggling with a, b, and c. Can you help with me with that?"

If you hear uh or um or any hesitiation in their response then this is someone to stay away from. You want someone who is confident in their response because they know they can fix your slice because they have done it 100 times.

I also agree with the other person who said to be careful about taking advice from people on a forum. I am a certified PGA instructor so you can trust what I am telling you the correct advice. I have a policy when I give lessons that if you don't improve then I will give you double your money back. I haven't had a single person ask yet in 6 years because they always improve. I would still recommend finding a local PGA professional because there is no substitute for a live in person lesson vs a virtual one.

Best of luck and let me know if you have any questions.

You can also go to GolfWRX and ask for recs for a teacher in your area. You will often get a number of responses

https://forums.golfwrx.com/forum/16-...ction-academy/

Thanks man, This is actually really nice to see visually. I do plan on videoing every range session and if I’m ever out on the course on my own and not holding anyone up I’ll record some shots. Hopefully get to side on ones.



Thanks, I live in a quite rural area so not sure how many replies I’d get but obviously worth a shot.

Would you ever go with a coach that doesn’t have a launch monitor these days? Also I assume yes but I’m gathering a lot of data from shotscope think that would be pretty handy for a coach to.


Again Thanks guys, I feel a lot better posting my swing now was a bit hesitant at first not sure why. It’s nice to see my mistakes and not be guessing.

I would prob not go to a teacher that didn’t have Trackman or something similar.

I managed get some footage on the course today so it's a lot better to see what's going on, I personally don't like what I'm seeing like I said before I'm basically just patting it down the fairway.

I think I'm getting the club a little steeper on the backswing now. I really don't like my downswing it seems very weak and it's probably why I hit the ball very straight and don't go to far offline.

United - i'll preface this by saying i'm by no means anywhere qualified to seriously critique someone's golf swing, but i'm going to do it anyway (but in a very casual way).
you seem to have a rather exaggerated hip slide away from, then towards the target. i fight this all the time so i'm more than familiar with it.
shifting like we do results in an inconstant location at impact. when we have it timed up with everything else it seems to be great, but we can't consistently repeat it if our lives depended on it.
watch your face on video and place your cursor on your left hip at set up and let it rest there without moving it. notice the gap you create on your backswing between the cursor and your hip. do the same thing with any tour pro face on swing and you'll likely notice you have a pretty big lateral shift with your hips (likely in an attempt to gain more power).

Your completely right, I have posted this else where and to a few people and you all same kinda thing,

I’m not going to do focus on the lateral slide at the moment, I’m going to more focus on the club not getting to far outside my right shoulder, I’m flat as it is and when I transition I drop it even further behind me, If you watch the face on swing when coming into impact I have a major hip stall. People I have asked have said that I have to stall the hips just because how I’ve taken the club back and transitioned. If I didn’t stall I imagine I would have so much trouble hitting the ball (it’s actually crazy I hit the ball straight with this swing), but this also could be the lateral side doing this as well as you mentioned.


Few people have been mentioned here about getting the club way more vertical I thought I was doing it a lot but I need to exaggerate this way more to get where I want to be.