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As your handicap drops 2/3 of it is a reduction in bogey or worse and 1/3 is from making more birdies.

What I would tell you is that a 2 is usually a decent ball striker and if they would play more patiently their scores would drop because of fewer double bogies from the trees, fewer 3-putts from being too aggressive on mid-range birdie putts (20-35’), and fewer silly bogies from inside 130ish.

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12-05-2017 , 05:40 PM

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rivercitybirdie

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Originally Posted by ship---this

ship, very interesting ratio... the 2/1 ratio of mistakes/achievement. i'd assume that the ratio would be higher for a high handicapper.

having watched alot of tour golf live and some caddying on the minor leagues, you see alot of soft bogeys, which i'd equate with your silly bogey. basically you didn't hit sharp shots. one mediocre shot leads to 8 foot par putt missed and tap-in bogey. hitting drive into rough is often culprit. then your approach shot doesn't stop on green. loose chip/pitch to 8 feet, miss the putt.

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12-05-2017 , 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie

Not really, depending on how high a handicap you are talking about. The logic still applies that it is far easier to intentionally not lose strokes than it is to intentionally gain strokes though.

Yes on the "soft bogey". Those the killers I try to train out of my players. They are entirely the result of a lack of patience and discipline...which is why Tiger was so great IMO.

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12-06-2017 , 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ship---this

Not really, depending on how high a handicap you are talking about. The logic still applies that it is far easier to intentionally not lose strokes than it is to intentionally gain strokes though.

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Ship, thx for the response.....

not sure if we communicated properly, i was thinking your concept of erasing mistakes being of vital importance is even MORE TRUE for higher handicappers.

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12-07-2017 , 12:54 PM

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Ship, thx for the response.....

not sure if we communicated properly, i was thinking your concept of erasing mistakes being of vital importance is even MORE TRUE for higher handicappers.

Ahhh...for sure.

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03-11-2018 , 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ntanygd760

Course management is a big thing as well. I guess that would go hand in hand no doubles.

IMO order would be
-proximity to pin

-distance off tee
-strokes gained putting

-frequency of birdies;

Would have to say that pitching, chipping, bunker play ( resulting in high % of getting up and down in 2) would be huge. In his prime, Tiger's frequent par saves seem to be as important as his birdies..

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03-11-2018 , 05:09 PM

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martin_malin

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A 2 can shoot 84, a +2 can't.

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03-11-2018 , 06:47 PM

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Dominic

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After careful consideration and a little research, I'm going to say 5. It's tricky, because you might forget you have to count the "0", or scratch golfer, and say 4...but it's really 5.

So, yeah. the difference is 5.

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03-11-2018 , 07:16 PM

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Fountain City Kid

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A big difference between a 2 and +2 is thought process. You should be following Ship's twitter feed right now for a glimpse.

https://twitter.com/scottfawcett

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