Late to the thread.

On what women are better at:
+infinity

lol...wrong

A poor argument, since she isn't the type of build to make the PGA tour anyway.

I've always said that no woman would ever be able to play with men consistently. Michelle at the age of 14/15 made me wonder whether that was true. She was on the cut line at the three tournaments she played at that age. If her short game was better, she could have easily made the cut. At that time, I said that I was clearly wrong and maybe an occasional woman would be good enough. Of course Wie has gotten worse for some reason. I still think that there is a possibility that a woman could make the top 125 on tour one year, but it's going to be very,very,very,very,very,very rare.

I'm glad you said that, because I tire of the whining about a woman (or celebrities) taking spots when they are clearly there for the sponsors who fork up the money anyway.

not only that, it's just such a terrible argument anyway. I bet there hasn't been a tournament in the last 50 years that doesn't "take a spot from someone who is better."

I mean just look at the champions tour week in and week out. A guy like Curtis Strange is probably not better than the senior club champion at my course right now, but he's curtis strange, not "old random guy". Hell, look at big break....thousands of fat chicks aren't cast b/c they are ugly and their spot is "taken up" by some hot chick who can shoot around 80

As we've had these arguments too many times already, we can simply agree to disagree.

But I do strongly disagree with the above Curtis Strange comment, unless of course your senior club champ is John Grace.

BO

There will always be a line between having people that sale tickets vs. having the most deserving players in the field.
And people will always disagree as to where that line should be.

And BSF, I have no idea what the heck you're talking about.
I made a poor arguement because Annika has the wrong build? Wat?

Maybe I made a poor arguement (although I didn't realize I was arguing) because I got the fact wrong on how many she beat, but I stated no opinion on whether she should or shouldn't have been competitive and why.

I don't know what the right build is either...wouldn't you want on of the best female golfers ever to represent you? Laura Davies hits it far, but I'm not choosing her because of that.

To quote Wayne Gretzky, "90% of the game is mental, the other half is physical."

Wie had some physical problems compounded with ridiculous ambitions of her parents. Her mental state reflected her poor play.

Difficult to prove (as PGA tour competition has improved), but I believe Ochoa in her prime to be the prototypical LPGA star who could best compete on a hard and fast course such as Colonial. Ochoa was basically better than Sorenstam in all facets of the game.

What about Allison Fisher at pool? Didn't she run like 9 str8 racks against someone?

Maybe I worded it poorly, but I ust meant to just say that Annika isn't a good argument against women not being able to play against the men. That are players with "better" builds who are lesser players on the women's tour, but better matches for the men's tour (although I'm not claiming that are good matches and can consistently make cuts).

Whatever it was, I would have loved to see how well she had developed given the right conditions.

Who cares? Women bowl perfect games in bowling too, doesn't make them better than the men.

I can't think of any sport women are legit better than men with equal equipment. But beach volleyball is definitely not it. Neither is golf or ping pong or darts or bowling or pool or whatever other game that seems to require slightly less athletic ability either.

Shark fishing because of their attraction to period blood?

lol it is. point is, bottom of the champions tour is a bunch of former stars, not the best guys in the world over 50. Almost no field in golf is made under the sole premise of putting the best players out there. So, imo, someone's always getting a spot taken from them. And anyway, couldn't they theoretically take a field of 144 and just add a person.

Theoretically, yes...would they, no.

Bo knows DFW golf. LOL.

This goes back to the truth that it's easier to make a cut on the PGA Tour than it is on the Nationwide Tour. One reason for that is because the bottom of the PGA Tour starting field is weak due to past champion status, career money list, etc. The Jerry Barbers of the tour. Plus the fact that the PGA cuts to the top 70 and ties while the number on the Nationwide is 60.

BO

ugh, sounds like the nationwide tour can be brutal if you don't have some really high finishes. It's kind of like the D-league of golf. If you can

And the Nationwide field has 30 more players in it.

http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/...l-championship
https://www.golfchannel.com/article/...oot-lincicome/

Here we go again. This one might be a little more personal though as I'm involved with a player who was one swing away from winning Barbasol last year and unfortunately will probably need a sponsor's invite to compete this year.

'The bottom line is that this is called a “sponsor exemption” for a reason. It’s Perio’s call to make. The company earned the right signing a big check to gain title sponsorship.'

about all that needs to be said on whether she should be in the field or not.

By that logic it would be OK to offer an exemption to Taylor Swift.

Yes. Yes it would.

this

I know Brittany Lincicome is sponsored by Pure Silk (same company as Barbasol iirc) but she's still an interesting choice. You get some of the buzz of a woman playing with the men but without the expectations and insanity of an Annika or young Michelle Wie. Lincicome is a good player, obv, with multiple wins, but she's never been a world beater. She should be comfortable enough, since I think I've read that she plays a fair amount of offseason golf with minitour guys.

semi-grunch as i read the first half of the thread.

i think it's good that she did it in this event. as people say, not really taking a spot. although i do agree that sponsor's exemption are often given to bring in more fans so i'd be ok with this in a mainline PGA tour event.

hadn't heard her name in awhile, although i think someone posted that she's been doing ok on LPGA these days.

i think people really don't understand how easy LPGA courses are. 6200 to 6400 yards is so short anywhere where it's warm and dry. add in moderate altitute some places and it's all wedges and short irons.

watching LPGA it seems like so often they are just throwing darts from 120 to a really easy flag position on a giant green. i actually wonder if LPGA top pros are better at this shot than men because a) they play it so much; b) smaller gaps in their wedge/iron distances (someone like bubba has massive gaps in his distances)........ note i am only referring to this situation. tough green or pin position. longer or shorter yardage then men are much better.

anyway, i think women would get slaughtered on so many pga and web.com set ups simply due to length..... i do think they should lengthen LPGA course setups. and it makes alot of sense if they want to slow down the korean invation.