She's currently ranked 21st in the Rolex rankings and finished 15th on the LPGA money list last year. 3 LPGA titles including 1 major to her credit. Is also one of the longest drivers on the LPGA averaging 266.6 last year trailing only Michelle Wie.

She shot 74-77=151(+7) to miss the cut by 7. T81 of the 104 players that completed 36 holes. -11 is leading.

I have no problem whatsoever with her playing in this event as she is not taking a spot from somebody more deserving. But many people tend to think that the top LPGA players can make cuts on the Nationwide and PGA Tour, and that is simply not even close to being the case. There are thousands of players better than the top woman in the world.

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It's interesting. I wonder how she played.. Hopefully she takes a few more shots.

totally agree. also, from being out on the mini tours as a caddie for the past few years, the players are a bunch of sickos. hell, most of them could make a living on the PGA tour, given the opportunity. cool that she got the chance to play tho, gg Brittany.

The golf course they are playing is only about 20 minutes from me; I have played there a bunch. Even for a long hitting woman, that golf course is going to be really hard. It's just over 7000 yards, but plays incredibly long as it is built on essentially swamp land so there is almost zero roll anywhere.

Hitting it 260, none of the par 5's are reachable. And I imaging she was hitting some sort of utility or fairway wood in 3 of the par 3's. And a bunch of par 4's as well.

That said, the conditions the past two days were as benign as they get out there. While a little cold yesterday, the wind has been down both days. -11 is a hell of a score though for the leader either way.

I dont see how she could compete on that course giving up 40 yards on every hole that requires driver.


PGA Tour Average Putts: 30.61
LPGA Tour Average Putts: 29.64

I wanted to compare some more of their stats around the green, but it seems the LPGA doenst place a high importance on scrambling and sand save %.

Just basically wondering aside from driving distance, what is the one other crucial difference between the average man and average woman. I would say short game consistency and imagination, but not entirely sure.

You don't see how she can compete because she can't. The reason the putts per round is lower is because they hit fewer greens, not because they are better putters. Every aspect of the men's game is better than the women's.

Aside from distance, men are able to spin the ball and compress irons. That allows you to hit at tucked pins. The pins on the LPGA Tour are way easier than the PGA Tour because they have to be.

But we've had this discussion before....
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/93...d-ever-760578/

As always, I don't have an issue with her in the event and to be honest I don't care if they play in a PGA Tour event. Sure it takes a spot from somebody trying to make a living, but the sponsors are what allows the players as a whole to make a living and if they want to give a spot to a female, have at it.

If you believe what she said on twitter, she hit the ball well but putted terribly. It happens. Also, I have the impression that this was to her just a chance for some different competition, to play with some guys who are her friends. Low key, not some big production like when Annika or Wie played PGA Tour events.

Did this get a lot of play on ESPN etc?

Im just curious as to how the strengths and weaknesses compare to the opposite tour.

Posting the AVG putts was more of a question than anything, as I am interested to know at what point do the respective skills collide.

Can LPGA golfers compete with 5 handicaps from the tips? 7? 10s?

I would guess that most of the card carrying full time LPGA players would carry a 0.0 index (or close to it) if they played mens tees everywhere. At the end of the day, those girls can play. It just speaks to how good the guys beating it around on mini tours are.

BREAKING NEWS: MEN ARE GENERALLY STRONGER AND MORE ATHLETIC THAN WOMEN

I think LPGA players would be +2 to +4 handicaps...they CAN play, just not at the PGA Tour level.
Especially professional male athletes....

FWIW the course where this happened is a little over 7000 yards and has a 74.5 rating.

LPGA played at my home course for 3 years.

The middle of the pack hits it nowhere. But it isn't the distance that was the main problem since they are such straight hitters. It is their lack of being able to put ample spin on the ball to hit tight pins.

Annika and Se Ri Pak were top of the class. Completely separate from the rest of the field.

Very classy that there seem to be people tickled pink that this girl didn't do well. Also, clearly we needed a thread to explain to everyone that a 25 year old woman with solid but non-superstar success on the women's tour would have a tough time competing with men.

Women can't beat men at anything that I know of

pretty sure they're better at folding clothes

yeah they did a little thing on GC about this, apparently she practices with some guys that play the mini tours and they told her she should play an event or two since the LPGA doesn't start for a while and she isn't doing much besides beating balls at the range

I'm currently a 4.6 handicap and there's no way I'd get into a prop bet with an LPGA Tour pro. I'm going to be past her off the tee every time and it's going to go downhill from there quickly. The easier the course is to score on the worse I'll lose. I'm going to be longer off the tee and better hitting out of super thick rough and worse in every other area.

one time in a tournament Tiger shot a 72 and I was playing and I shot a 71, which shows that with a little practice, I could easily at least make a cut in a little tiny nationwide event.

The assistant pro at a local club tells the story of how he knew he would never be a PGA tour player....

He was a superstud in college and played in the NCAA championship where he finished in a 3 or 4 way tie for 2nd at -2. Lee Jansen won with a -18.

The Tiger effect and the bringing of golf to the masses has created an enormous pool of superstar monster insano ridiculous golfers who will never make more than 50k a year.

Not 100% sure how to tie this in to the discussion lol but I think most people can agree that there is a point in there somewhere, just hiding nicely waiting to be extracted, and one other than "sheets's brain is fried"

This could clearly be directed at me...I promise you I and not happy she didn't do well. I really don't care. The reason I comment at all is because I find the political correctness of our country to be absurd sometimes. There are people that get offended by somebody stating that a woman can't compete with a man in most if not all athletic events. My comments are aimed at those people who get fired up at my opinion they are wrong. I do enjoy further proof that my stance is correct that a female can't compete on the men's tour and most likely never will.

As a new father of a girl I am very excited to watch her compete and grow as a person. But that does not mean I would ever think she will play the PGA Tour. As I have stated before I admire anybody who has the balls to enter an event and try to compete. That is why I said above I am all for them being in the tournament and I do wish them well. My problem is with the people who get all pissy because I state my opinion. That comment is not directed at anybody in particular either...more of a comment on the state of our country.

I personally couldn't care less if she played well or not. As ship said, this is just another data point in what is an ongoing conversation about whether women can compete with men on the golf course. And at the end of the day, whether she played well in this event over these three days really doesn't mean all that much.

Like, I have no doubt that some women on some courses can compete some percentage of the time. Like Annika at Colonial. Or to a lesser extent Wie at the Sony. But on an ongoing basis (and not at golf courses tailored to the goal of women competing) this is a complete non story.

eta: Just imagine what the scores would be if they held an LPGA event (but set up like a PGA event) at, say, any of the TPC Courses, or Torrey, or Quail Hollow. The avg score would be well into the 80s.

beach volleyball is one.

lol who let Brittany out of the kitchen

or

I didn't know they had Hooters events in kitchens

No it isn't.

As a matter of fact, to answer the related question, a mid tier professional male beach volleyball team would win a ladies beach volleyball tournament roughly 100% of the time, give or take zero %.