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03-24-2017 , 03:17 PM
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How does a world-class player (and his caddy) not pay attention to the local rules of a tournament. It's just mind-blowing to me.
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03-24-2017 , 03:19 PM
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How does a world-class player (and his caddy) not pay attention to the local rules of a tournament. It's just mind-blowing to me.
Just got home. What happened?
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03-24-2017 , 03:34 PM
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Watching all these playoffs on the course at the same time is awesome. You wouldn't get this with the original format.

And what a chip by Bill Haas to stay alive! Unreal. Can't believe he conceded Kim's par putt though.

Sure you could. Two or three matches go extra holes there you go.
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03-24-2017 , 03:36 PM
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Just got home. What happened?
Hatton put his club down behind the ball on an 18" putt. He said it moved, so he talked to Cabrera-Bello briefly and then putted it in. I guess he was assuming the rules under review are the rules now. Either way, you'd still need to replace your ball to the original position.

The announcers said there is a local rule in effect in this situation. The player returns the ball to the original spot on the green and not penalty is assessed.
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03-24-2017 , 03:38 PM
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Sure you could. Two or three matches go extra holes there you go.
How many of those playoff matches contained three or more golfers? How many of those playoff matches involved closing out your current match only to be paired with one or two different golfers?

Can't compare the entertainment value b/t the two. Sorry. Don't be stubborn.
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03-24-2017 , 03:41 PM
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How many of those playoff matches contained three or more golfers? How many of those playoff matches involved closing out your current match only to be paired with one or two different golfers?
So we got two holes with 3 man playoffs as opposed to more matches going extra holes with 2 players.

Weather or not the format is more entertaining is debatable depending on who you ask, but these playoffs could easily happen even if a tad bit different.
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03-24-2017 , 03:47 PM
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So we got two holes with 3 man playoffs as opposed to more matches going extra holes with 2 players.

Weather or not the format is more entertaining is debatable depending on who you ask, but these playoffs could easily happen even if a tad bit different.
That's just it. I don't think it's debatable. Of course, like anything else one group will side with one side while another group sides with the other side. That said, if you polled Tour golfers who have played in both formats, I'd think the vast majority would vote for the current format. There's a reason the Tour made the change. Golfers, fans, officials, sponsors, and TV execs alike demanded it.
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03-24-2017 , 03:51 PM
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That's just it. I don't think it's debatable. Of course, like anything else one group will side with one side while another group sides with the other side. That said, if you polled Tour golfers who have played in both formats, I'd think the vast majority would vote for the current format. There's a reason the Tour made the change. Golfers, fans, officials, sponsors, and TV execs alike demanded it.
Pretty sure the main reason was the players couldnt stand traveling to a tournament where they could maybe only play 14 holes. Understandably so
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03-24-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Also how many guys playing today had absolutely nothing to play for? Some matches meant nothing at all. Really weird when one guy playing to advance and the other with nothing to gain at all.
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03-24-2017 , 04:02 PM
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Pretty sure the main reason was the players couldnt stand traveling to a tournament where they could maybe only play 14 holes. Understandably so
And fans, sponsors, TV execs couldn't stand Tiger, Phil, DJ, etc. playing 14 holes.
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03-24-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Also how many guys playing today had absolutely nothing to play for? Some matches meant nothing at all. Really weird when one guy playing to advance and the other with nothing to gain at all.
You obv aren't familiar with this format. There are financial and FedEx Cup/OWGR considerations at play. None of the matches today "mean nothing at all".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_W...ints_breakdown

Furthermore, match-play is as raw and personal as golf gets. These pros aren't mailing it in.

As an aside, I recommend that if anyone itt is a serious golfer and has never played match-play give it a shot. Alternate-shot with a teammate is the nut best golf experience imo.
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03-24-2017 , 04:22 PM
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You obv aren't familiar with this format. There are financial and FedEx Cup/OWGR considerations at play. None of the matches today "mean nothing at all".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_W...ints_breakdown

Furthermore, match-play is as raw and personal as golf gets. These pros aren't mailing it in.
Guessing you didnt watch JB Holmes today. He 100 percent mailed it in from the opening hole.
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03-24-2017 , 04:23 PM
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I agree matchplay is awesome to play, Im just not sure how well it translates to tv no matter what the format. Other than Ryder Cup of course.
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03-24-2017 , 04:24 PM
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Guessing you didnt watch JB Holmes today. He 100 percent mailed it in from the opening hole.
Berger beat him 7&5 on Wednesday. He mailed it in from the start.
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03-24-2017 , 04:27 PM
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Guessing you didnt watch JB Holmes today. He 100 percent mailed it in from the opening hole.
I get it bud. You disagree with me. You think more people want the NCAA bracket format back and I don't.

Regarding today's matches, you said some matches meant nothing. I educated you and showed you that you're wrong.

Nothing more left to say. I'm going to sit back and enjoy the rest of today's action and possible bonus action playoffs.
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03-24-2017 , 04:28 PM
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I agree matchplay is awesome to play, Im just not sure how well it translates to tv no matter what the format. Other than Ryder Cup of course.
Hey, we can agree on this at least.
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03-24-2017 , 04:33 PM
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I get it bud. You disagree with me. You think more people want the NCAA bracket format back and I don't.

Regarding today's matches, you said some matches meant nothing. I educated you and showed you that you're wrong.

Nothing more left to say. I'm going to sit back and enjoy the rest of today's action and possible bonus action playoffs.
You are right I did not know that they were playing for FE points, thats my fault. Not that I think it means much at all for Rory/Mats/Kuch/the rest of the top guys who were out of it. But yeah I was wrong/uniformed about that. To be clear I wasnt trying to say more people would like the old format, I know I would and im not the only one. You could very well be right on the majority but yeah doesnt change my mind. Wasnt trying to be a dick or anything sorry if I came across that way.
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03-24-2017 , 04:39 PM
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You are right I did not know that they were playing for FE points, thats my fault. Not that I think it means much at all for Rory/Mats/Kuch/the rest of the top guys who were out of it. But yeah I was wrong/uniformed about that. To be clear I wasnt trying to say more people would like the old format, I know I would and im not the only one. You could very well be right on the majority but yeah doesnt change my mind. Wasnt trying to be a dick or anything sorry if I came across that way.
Nah, it's all good. After all, it's just golf.

One cool thing about this Fisher/Oosthy playoff is that Fisher is currently OWGR #53. Those in Monday's top OWGR top 50 not already in the Masters receive an invite. Fisher basically playing to get into the Masters right now (might need to win a match even after a potential playoff win ... not sure of the math).
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03-24-2017 , 04:51 PM
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Awful production value by the Golf Channel. I haven't seen them show the 16-man bracket once. They should be updating/showing the bracket when a player advances.
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03-24-2017 , 05:33 PM
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Quite the collapse here from ZJ. God must be watching the Puerto Rico Open instead.

AND HE ADVANCED ANYWAY.
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03-24-2017 , 06:31 PM
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Didnt even realize Leishman didnt play all day then showed up and won the playoff lol. Weird day for him
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03-24-2017 , 08:40 PM
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Hatton put his club down behind the ball on an 18" putt. He said it moved, so he talked to Cabrera-Bello briefly and then putted it in. I guess he was assuming the rules under review are the rules now. Either way, you'd still need to replace your ball to the original position.

The announcers said there is a local rule in effect in this situation. The player returns the ball to the original spot on the green and not penalty is assessed.
Thank you. I kind of get it. That local rule is so different than the tour rule, it's understandable that they didn't know.
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03-24-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Thank you. I kind of get it. That local rule is so different than the tour rule, it's understandable that they didn't know.
I have to disagree. Local rules are part of tournament golf. You should learn this at the junior golf level.
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03-24-2017 , 09:19 PM
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I have to disagree. Local rules are part of tournament golf. You should learn this at the junior golf level.
Yes, thank you ntnB... wait, what?
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03-24-2017 , 09:37 PM
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Yes, thank you ntnB... wait, what?
ntnB can correct me if I'm wrong, but when you register on-site for a tournament every entrant will be given a sheet with any local rules. Pretty basic stuff really. Just ask Dustin Johnson.
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