Can you play more tables of laggy PLO than nitty Holdem? I never played PLO but enlighten me!

Not by me, but by an average reg of the stake - definitely yes.

Of course you can't - you'll also have to think more postflop.

The most I've been able to handle well in iPoker / Microgaming PLO is 7-9. I haven't played enough cash Hold'em to compare. I can handle 3 tables of Spins, 5 tables of Twister or 9 tables of iPoker 6-max turbo STTs pretty well (iPoker's software is slower and more time to act is given).

well yes if only because 888 only allows 6 tables

ten years ago any time stars would have a deposit bonus i would buy in for the max allowed for the bonus and TWENTY FOUR table as many .10-.25 PLO tables as I could plus fill out the rest with holdem (also did this for stars 10billionth hand thingy, played like 24 hours over those three days and got nothing )

that was while smoking weed, eating cheetos, and watching sports

that said I am far slower than I used to be and would not be able to handle that at all, but i could do ten

you say the games are soft right?

i was able to win (though not win big) at tough live games in vegas

if the low stakes PLO games are anything like I have seen recently on 888 and what they were like on stars back in the day then i should be able to have somewhat of a win rate

even if its just 2 bbs per hour thats $6ish an hour (4 tables of each) for $1kish a month.... plus $1500ish rakeback....... hmmm thats basically what my expected value on 888 is and it would be for more work and i would be able to do less online work

hmmmmmmmmmmm

also would be on a site ive never heard of that i dont trust

hmmmmmmmmm


also i dont really agree with needing to think more postflop...... most PLO postflop decisions are pretty cut and dry, particularly when playing against terrible players

if they show any interest in the pot give up without a very big hand

if they check you can try and make a move

Ah, you'll be OK then - at least you have some history of beating any PLO game.

I awe at your ability to 24-table PLO, but our physical conditions of course differ a lot in your favour. I don't like exercising. Maybe I'll never need it, though. $2K a month is makeable even without it.

i would not advise 24 tabling laggy PLO lol


did i read correctly that you dont think (or tried) you can win at these games?

I have a 200K-hand history of barely beating PLO20 and slightly losing at PLO50 (both post-rakeback) on euro networks. When I did select tables harshly, I was winning at 5-7 bb/100 post-rakeback at PLO20, I reckon.

Basically, the advent of lottery SnGs has saved my poker career.

imo if you arent beating low stakes plo then you are either not playing in soft games and the rake is eating you and everyone else in the game alive

or you are in soft games and you are overthinking and trying to be to fancy and make plays on people that cant have plays made against them

So you always bitch about running bad and getting sucked out on and your answer to your woes is to play PLO instead of holdem? A game where the variance is how much more insane than holdem??

Dude, do you know how standard suck outs are in PLO, you'll be perpetually tilted.

I've been wondering the same.

I think that's the case.

One coach told to me that he was seeing no leaks. Another said that I was trying to play too GTO at the stakes where it's far from optimal. A third one said that I was a nit postflop, but it was a free impromptu session and he was a bit drunk. (I was indeed on the tight side, with stats like 22/15/6.)

i highly doubt i will do it, mostly because i dont trust the site and **** said something about the rakeback coming from deposit bonuses up to 2500..... im not putting 2500 on a site i dont trust

but suck outs for 25 and 50 arent really that big of a deal, and if i can make close to 4x the rakeback AND have the games be soft it would be something worth investigating

there would be some frustrating runs for sure...... but they are in holdem also, and its one thing to voluntarily put your money in when you know there is a good chance to lose and then lose, compared to making some fish call a huge raise pre that protects your AA and still get stacked by his 65s, the PLO variance is expected and easier to deal with

basically every time i get stacked in holdem it is some kind of BS either a suckout or a cooler..... not trying to sound egostical and say im a perfect player......obv is what i said is the case then i miss lots of value in other spots...... but if every loss comes when you have a huge hand and play it in a way to protect it then its really fukkking frustrating

888 just has a way of tilting me to start every session, today im bb first round at table 10 minutes into session, i have 52s five people see A82cc giving me flush draw

i check and the button nonreg jp poster bets full pot, i call others fold

turn 2 i check and he checks

riv Kc i bet my flush he min raises i call..... he has KK

welcome to your session have a nice day

now i randomly get kicked off 20 minutes into my session and when i try to sign back in it says my password is incorrect

in soft games nitty postflop really isnt a bad thing

if you try PLO again just make it simple

of someone shows interest in a hand dont bluff them

if its checked to you then try and make a move if you so desire

people generally play very straightforward because they are very scared of being against a monster, and if they have a hand they are very scared of all the outs..... they rarely slowplay

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I'll just leave this here

pretty sure i havent tilted off 40 buy ins during my entire time playing poker

I absolutely hate this crap, after yesterdays biggest loss im up $150 today heading into my last 30 minutes of play

aggro reg opens to 3 reg calls uberfish calls im button with AJ make it 14 folds to the fish who calls flop A74cc uberfish check shoves when I cbet big...... oh nice hand 74

2 hands later uberfish limps I pot it with AK new guy who has been highly aggro all day calls from bb uberfish calls flop K105cc i bet they both call turn 4d bb bets out fish calls..... i obv dont love it but dont really think i can fold.... oh nh bb set of 5s

fish had K9

3 mins later different table i just sat down and get KK big stack jp poster makes it 3 i 3bet from with KK to 14.50 he calls flop Q52ccc he checks I have no club and bet 80% pot he shoves I call

he has A7o

he makes a flush, a 7 hi flush, he check shoved with the 7 hi flush draw when i had put half my stack in the pot and got rewarded, this after calling a big 3bet huoop with A7o vs KK

then in PLO i raise with K1063ds on button after limpers they all call cuz everyone is loose as **** in PLO, flop 1062cc checked to me I pot it, guy who plays every hand calls 30% of his stack with 98cc J5hh..... so a gutshot and crap flush draw, turn 8h he check calls off a full pot all in and obv gets there...... great flop call, way to play great by check calling turn


i make it through 15 of my final 30 minutes and realize 888 hit the doomswitch and dont let them take anymore


i hate this ****, i have enough money, i have a way to make money that covers my expenses........ why am i putting myself through this BS

Is anxiety a big problem whilst youre playing? I mean I find it tough to play my A game if I am checking my results alot(I have pokertracker so its much easier to keep track), the fact that you know youre 'up $150' with 30 mins to go rings some alarm bells.

im just crazy like that, i always know how the session is going

So you have to know if you're up/down, but get tilted by standard swings. Seems like the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over but hoping something changes.

damn dude. PLO seems to have a lot of variance.

so i lose 150 in my first session today, take a break, bang above average dating site chick, come back to play

within 10 minutes i:

get AAxx in PLO and limp utg, two callers a short stack pots it i min raise hoping others call and shorty shoves but they fold and he just calls, he flops pair and flush draw and wins (not a big deal, bare with me)

next hand I get A8Jx in on A84 flop vs another shorties AK83, turn J...... riv K

NEXT hand I get AAQJds all in for 100bb stacks vs AA85 board 1085 turn 8

in holdem i call fishes raise with KQ four see K84cc checked to me i bet reg calls turn 5d reg check shoves

ten ****ing minutes into my session

i dont understand how guys who are like 30/15 get people to fold on flops easier than I do as an 10/5

Man you're a total downer.

sit in 1-2, post in co, fold first 4 hands, get AKo and limp uberfish min raises, 2 others calls i raise huge to 28, fish calls others fold flop J98ccc i have Kc and bet 3/4th pot he shoves...... i have 120 left i have to call

he has AJo with Ac

5 hands in -200 stacked by the only player who even had me sitting at the table when he makes awful call pre and gets the perfect flop

i hate my life

take a break and wake up DIA chick with neck kisses and bang

come back fish min raises in .25-.50 i raise to 4.75 with KK button random dude calls fish calls flop 863 nice hand buttons 3s (should have stacked fishes QQ but he just called pre)


this is the start of my third session today..... every single one has had some BS in the first ten minutes

17$ pf, you raise to 28$ = 45$ pot
24$ to call to win 45$

Good odds = bad play to 4.5$/hr winners

69$ pot 51$ bet
guy shove 120$ more into 120$

CALL! No pair, second nut FD 1:1 odds

Bad odds = good play for 4.5$/hr winner

you are bad at math

how in the world am i calling $120 to win $120

im calling $120 to win $290

nice try though

lets say you meet this really sweet girl, all she wants out of life is a new car and since she is so sweet she keeps giving you the great offer to loan her the money for the car which she will pay back

she wont hang out with you, and once you change the texting convo to any other subject than her new car she quits replying........

would it really be so morally wrong to lead her on about the loan, **** her, and then block her number?