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10-13-2015 , 06:39 PM
I can make 23k in 6 months on my office job with zero stress
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10-13-2015 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by trolol69
I can make 23k in 6 months on my office job with zero stress
Not worth working 9-5 and staying in your home country where your 23k will probably be worth 4x less
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10-13-2015 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Info Shove
Not worth working 9-5 and staying in your home country where your 23k will probably be worth 4x less
that's an exaggeration because your spending habits change at home, such as not banging hookers.

plus in 6 months i can walk into another job. most guys in thailand are unemployable if they ever decide to go home.

airfares to thailand and south-east asia are lower than they've ever been.
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10-13-2015 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lol69

airfares to thailand and south-east asia are lower than they've ever been.
Tickets seem to have went up from Detroit to BKK for me from the same time last year. I found them 990 last November best I'm finding right now is 1100. I find the cheapest on priceline normally.

Since you say you travel out 5-6 times a year where you finding the deals?
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10-13-2015 , 10:30 PM
rent + 10 hookers a month is still less than rent back home
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10-14-2015 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
that's an exaggeration because your spending habits change at home, such as not banging hookers.

plus in 6 months i can walk into another job. most guys in thailand are unemployable if they ever decide to go home.

airfares to thailand and south-east asia are lower than they've ever been.
but nobody here wants to get another job

plus its not just 23k

its 23k + 6kish on the side from online work + 2k-3k from rakeback + 1k-3k from the blog + ebooks
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10-14-2015 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
but nobody here wants to get another job

plus its not just 23k

its 23k + 6kish on the side from online work + 2k-3k from rakeback + 1k-3k from the blog + ebooks
dont forget you gave you work when your funds were low last year
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10-14-2015 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jspill
rent + 10 hookers a month is still less than rent back home
+ motorcycling as a hobby as you can buy and sell bikes for same as you pay = living the dream


even renting is cheap, for 1750 baht + abt 2k in gas, i put 2500 red lining/hard earned km in 8 days on the 250 cbr and proved the true love between man and motorcycle is deeper than female love
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10-14-2015 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
but nobody here wants to get another job

plus its not just 23k

its 23k + 6kish on the side from online work + 2k-3k from rakeback + 1k-3k from the blog + ebooks
i would love to see your ev graph because you buy in for $100 and basically single table. you probably play 200 hands a day at most. 2k from rakeback you play a tiny volume.

i'm guessing you run above expectation.
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10-14-2015 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimmin
dont forget you gave you work when your funds were low last year
i have more than repaid that favor with hundreds of 'do this now' and also trying to give you a super easy $500 on weekends when things were slow, but still ty

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i would love to see your ev graph because you buy in for $100 and basically single table. you probably play 200 hands a day at most. 2k from rakeback you play a tiny volume.

i'm guessing you run above expectation.
i love how people make mass assumptions about other peoples lives and post them as facts when they literally have no clue..... thats one of my favorite things about the internet

over the past 5 weeks i was 6 tabling like 6 or 7 hours a day, jackpot tables run slower at 60 hands an hour, but not all jackpot, so lets say 70 hands an hour

70 x 6 = 420, lets call it 400

x 6 = 2400 a day

ive also been playing a lot of 1-2 and 2-4 or 3-6 any time a game worth playing is running buying in for full stacks on each

so wtf were u talking about exactly?
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10-14-2015 , 10:29 AM
2400 hands a day and no saved HH?
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10-14-2015 , 01:33 PM
how do you save without a hud?
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10-14-2015 , 01:38 PM
lol they're on your computer in the 888 folder, send me and i can make a graph for you without giving out your SN
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10-14-2015 , 02:58 PM
tell me exactly what i search to find it

i cant find it, and i dont think i have it....... 888 did some spaz on me like a year and a half ago where i can't double click on the 888 icon on my background, i have to right click and select 'run as admin' to even open 888 lol...... i only found out that works because someone else in the 888thread said they had the same issue

my 888 folder shows two things, a blank white page with an arrow at the bottom left pointing up and to the right (the same thing thats on my background of comp) and 'uninstall 888 poker'

i also cant drag and drop players notes into anywhere to have that work which sucked when i lost them all
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10-14-2015 , 11:48 PM
under settings -> game settings it should tell you where they are and have a link to open the folder, zip the folder (remember how i taught you one time what a zip file is) and send me
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10-15-2015 , 03:24 AM
right click save as zip, ill never forget

but that doesnt work, it says (i cant copy and paste) something to the extent of 'the location is not available' maybe the file has been moved, make sure you are connected to the internet yada yada

im telling ya, during one of the updates things got all ****ed up with my 888, there is no file for it anymore, i cant drag my old notes into it

i have emailed 888 asking them to send me a hand history file
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10-15-2015 , 04:28 AM
i'm guessing we will never see a graph.
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10-15-2015 , 04:30 AM
graph isn't for you, no one cares about you. was thinking for his ebook

unless it turns out he's under ev, that would be funny to rub that in your face
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10-15-2015 , 04:48 AM
you guys do realize there are huge flaws to 'ev' right

say i limp raise from a raise of 3 to a raise to 17 with AA vs QJo and guy calls and i bet on J hi flop and he calls and Q turn and i get stacked

it looks like 'i got my money in bad' in this spot when clearly i set up a hugely +ev spot that anyone would love to have


particularly for the style i play all your cutesy stats and numbers dont mean as much, 98% of the time i get it in bad it is either after I put so much in pre that i protected my hand or just a cooler set/set top two/set KK/AA type of hand
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10-15-2015 , 05:38 AM
That posts makes absolutely no sense for anyone with a post-daycare education.

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10-15-2015 , 05:48 AM
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you guys do realize there are huge flaws to 'ev' right

say i limp raise from a raise of 3 to a raise to 17 with AA vs QJo and guy calls and i bet on J hi flop and he calls and Q turn and i get stacked

it looks like 'i got my money in bad' in this spot when clearly i set up a hugely +ev spot that anyone would love to have


particularly for the style i play all your cutesy stats and numbers dont mean as much, 98% of the time i get it in bad it is either after I put so much in pre that i protected my hand or just a cooler set/set top two/set KK/AA type of hand
and other players run into the same coolers.

there is nothing flawed about all in ev. it's a simple concept that bad players who have spent a life time being hugely above ev fail to grasp.

even if you get it all in after they've caught a miracle card on the turn, at that point you might be a 5% favorite to win the hand. if you fail to win then your ev line will move down more or less in correlation with your actual winnings line.

it's a really simple concept.
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10-15-2015 , 06:24 AM
but the most important part of the hand came pre when we got almost 20% of stacks in when I was a massive favorite and folding AA is basically not even possible at that point

last year I had a hand in 1-2 when we were $400+ deep where the table fish limps, he called every hand pre so i literally raised from 2 to 50 with AA, he calls with 56 and we get it in on the turn after he made two pair


according to ev i just got it in terrible....... but ev doesnt take into account that i got a fish to call 50 pre as an over 4 to 1 dog, and again call a lot on the flop as a huge dog


if you guys cant understand that then.........



and no, other players dont run into that type of spot because other players are raising to 7 with their AA and losing a huge pot also and not protecting their hand at all

my whole game is based around making fish make terrible mistakes to try and suck out on me, if they do then according to ev it looks like i played bad when in reality i got the exact situation i wanted


i understand all in ev, i am saying there is a whole lot more to 'how well you ran' particularly when you play the way that I do

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10-15-2015 , 06:36 AM
there are two regs on 888 that i basically just have no chance against, their timing vs me is ridiculous

they are both extremely aggro, constantly 'making moves' and basically every time i play back at them they somehow have a huge hand, example:

i post in the co and get AQs, there is shortstacking aggrotard on button who will raise if co posts and folded to him basically every time

then my nemesis is in the bb and he will obv know that and have an extremely high chance of making a move...... and in the off chance the button doesnt raise he will surely raise

so i check my AQs knowing i am crushing their raising ranges, the aggrotard button does the obv and raises, and the nemesis does the predictable 3bet

i 4bet, aggrotard folds, nemesis shoves

100% guarantee he has at worst KK there, every time he puts big money in the pot he has a monster, EVERY time, there is 0% chance he is bluffing me when I have put in $50 pre


how do these two guys have just perfect timing long term, raise raise raise raise raise raise raise raise i 'make a move' (as if AQs is a move in this totally predictable spot) and they have the nuts......... and its like years of this vs one of them, and then the other is more recent and smaller sample size
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10-15-2015 , 06:43 AM
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but the most important part of the hand came pre when we got almost 20% of stacks in when I was a massive favorite and folding AA is basically not even possible at that point

last year I had a hand in 1-2 when we were $400+ deep where the table fish limps, he called every hand pre so i literally raised from 2 to 50 with AA, he calls with 56 and we get it in on the turn after he made two pair


according to ev i just got it in terrible....... but ev doesnt take into account that i got a fish to call 50 pre as an over 4 to 1 dog, and again call a lot on the flop as a huge dog
if you get it in as a 1% chance then your ev line will move down almost as much as your total winnings line assuming you lose that all in.

should you get lucky as a 1% chance then your ev line will move down almost 1 buy in, whereas your winnings line will move up 1 buy in.

i'm not saying you're stupid, but the kind of things you are saying are consistent with things are stupid people would say.
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10-15-2015 , 06:46 AM
He is semi correct about EV, AIEV actually shows very little as far as your winrate/overall expectation in the game is concerned, he just explained it poorly. There is a reason the only people who complain about AIEV variance are predominately fish/weak regs(post 2010).

What I find more alarming is that hes claiming to play ~70k hands of MSNL/month, and gets tilted/can remember very well, a pretty mundane hand where he lost a 400bb pot to a fish from a year ago.
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