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09-07-2023 , 04:57 AM
apparently it is 4 hours play for a free room, and comps worth $10 / hr. seems interesting.
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09-08-2023 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by franklymydearirais
apparently it is 4 hours play for a free room, and comps worth $10 / hr. seems interesting.
Wow that's crazy if true! Where did you get this info? And is this for ALL stakes? And how bout the free food?

Oh and do you know if the hours are cumulative? Like do I need to play 4 hours a day everyday to get the free room, or can I play for 8 hours and get 2 nights?
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09-08-2023 , 01:06 PM
Casino websites are usually crap, even in Murica. Also in SHV, games are often run not by the casino itself but by some 3rd party operator/junket or whatever you may want to call it. Sometimes they have a wechat or something. Maybe try to call the casino, if not then, you know, just show up and see what you can find...
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09-08-2023 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP
Wow that's crazy if true! Where did you get this info? And is this for ALL stakes? And how bout the free food?

Oh and do you know if the hours are cumulative? Like do I need to play 4 hours a day everyday to get the free room, or can I play for 8 hours and get 2 nights?
Wake up man ! Look yourself in the mirror, do i really wanna be a comp/promotion player for 10$/h?
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09-09-2023 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Macau2018
Wake up man ! Look yourself in the mirror, do i really wanna be a comp/promotion player for 10$/h?
is it really 10$ an hour tho? like you essentially have no living expenses.

i will say tho, had a friend that played a few sessions there. told me games were pretty ****.
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09-09-2023 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBananas
is it really 10$ an hour tho? like you essentially have no living expenses.

i will say tho, had a friend that played a few sessions there. told me games were pretty ****.
Youre right about that!
But it is Sihanoukville u have to live in, prob not a place on earth to recommend anyone.
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09-15-2023 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FWWM
Casino websites are usually crap, even in Murica. Also in SHV, games are often run not by the casino itself but by some 3rd party operator/junket or whatever you may want to call it. Sometimes they have a wechat or something. Maybe try to call the casino, if not then, you know, just show up and see what you can find...
I sent an email to four poker rooms: Queenco, 72Poker at DV, Nagaworld, and Riverking. None of them responded except for Nagaworld, go figure lol. Btw I was told that Nagaworld is planning to offer free stays for 6 hours of play in the near future.


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Wake up man ! Look yourself in the mirror, do i really wanna be a comp/promotion player for 10$/h?
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Originally Posted by BigBananas
is it really 10$ an hour tho? like you essentially have no living expenses.

i will say tho, had a friend that played a few sessions there. told me games were pretty ****.
Lol I'm not trying to be a house player or make a living out of this at all (although that would actually be a pretty decent living in Cambodia). I'm currently in Taiwan and looking to do some traveling in SEA. Cambodia is only a 3 hour flight away, if I can travel there, explore the country, stay for free, get paid $10 an hour for grinding, PLUS whatever hourly profit, and free food/drinks, then why not?!. And four hours of live poker for me is really nothing at all, goes by super fast.


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Originally Posted by Macau2018
Youre right about that!
But it is Sihanoukville u have to live in, prob not a place on earth to recommend anyone.
Lol is it really THAT bad there?? The beaches are nice, no? How bout Phnom Penh?
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09-15-2023 , 06:49 AM
I tried to edit my post but it was too late. I just contacted all of them through Telegram. Queenco is now 5 hours for the free room and they longer offer any rakeback. 72Poker offers $25 in rakeback for 4 hours of play, no word about free rooms. And still waiting to hear back from Riverking.
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09-15-2023 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP

Lol is it really THAT bad there?? The beaches are nice, no? How bout Phnom Penh?
They're both fine, if you know your way around. PP much more than SHV IMO but it's a matter of taste/preference. SHV has some issues in multiple areas and is not my favorite place in the world but it's still a mostly nice beach town, yes. I mean don't investigate the beach too closely, you might find things that are not so nice, like sewage lines, but it's like that in many places not just in Cambo...
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09-15-2023 , 10:45 PM
Queenco now sucks, only has 1 table with 7 house players - 4 chinese, 2 indonesians and 1 fat american guy.

There is a couple of new places that opened One is Sunshine Casino which is near Furi Mall, and the other is Xing Chan Di near Otres 1. Both have many koreans

DV Casino is still the best place to play, though
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09-16-2023 , 05:32 AM
on their website queenco also offers change 500 for chips and get a free room. the chips are like real money except in one sense, they can't be cashed out. so you play them on baccarat player or banker and you get a room for $5 in expected loss. or $2.50 on blackjack.


sihanoukville is legit the nut low city in asia. rentals look cheap but i'm not convinced any of these poker rooms are worth grinding.
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09-17-2023 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP
I tried to edit my post but it was too late. I just contacted all of them through Telegram. Queenco is now 5 hours for the free room and they longer offer any rakeback. 72Poker offers $25 in rakeback for 4 hours of play, no word about free rooms. And still waiting to hear back from Riverking.
Where did you contact Pokerking? Can try their telegram direct https://t.me/Pokerkingcambodia

In terms of their promos, I'm not sure if they've changed since I left.

1-3 Holdem 1pm-6pm pays $30 and then $8 each hour after this. Quads and above $100 bonus (I think)
5-5 PLO Noon-4pm $75 promo
Hotel $450 per month or $25 per day

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Originally Posted by FWWM
They're both fine, if you know your way around. PP much more than SHV IMO but it's a matter of taste/preference. SHV has some issues in multiple areas and is not my favorite place in the world but it's still a mostly nice beach town, yes. I mean don't investigate the beach too closely, you might find things that are not so nice, like sewage lines, but it's like that in many places not just in Cambo...
Gonna check out Snookie for the first time in a long while next week, will check out the games listed above and report back.
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09-17-2023 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LinaPoker
Where did you contact Pokerking? Can try their telegram direct https://t.me/Pokerkingcambodia
First I tried emailing them (phnompenhpokerclub@gmail.com), no response. Then I messaged them on Telegram, it shows that it's read but no response either. Just lazy and rude. And they don't even what a website so I can't even book the hotel even if I wanted to lol.

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In terms of their promos, I'm not sure if they've changed since I left.

1-3 Holdem 1pm-6pm pays $30 and then $8 each hour after this. Quads and above $100 bonus (I think)
5-5 PLO Noon-4pm $75 promo
Hotel $450 per month or $25 per day
Thanks for the info! Wow those are pretty good promos, even better than the 5 or 6hours for free rooms at Queenco and Nagaworld, especially if the rooms are only $25 a day anyways (or $15 if you do the month). How are the rooms btw, anyone stay there before?

Few questions:
1) For the NL, do you have to play 1pm-6pm to get the $8 per hour afterwards? Like can I start playing at 7pm and get the $8?
2) PLO is what I'm most interested in and that's a very decent rakeback. How are the PLO games there? Are there full tables from 12pm-4pm? How bout later in the day? And it's a straight 5-5 game right, $5 to call?
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09-17-2023 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP
First I tried emailing them (phnompenhpokerclub@gmail.com), no response. Then I messaged them on Telegram, it shows that it's read but no response either. Just lazy and rude. And they don't even what a website so I can't even book the hotel even if I wanted to lol.



Thanks for the info! Wow those are pretty good promos, even better than the 5 or 6hours for free rooms at Queenco and Nagaworld, especially if the rooms are only $25 a day anyways (or $15 if you do the month). How are the rooms btw, anyone stay there before?

Few questions:
1) For the NL, do you have to play 1pm-6pm to get the $8 per hour afterwards? Like can I start playing at 7pm and get the $8?
2) PLO is what I'm most interested in and that's a very decent rakeback. How are the PLO games there? Are there full tables from 12pm-4pm? How bout later in the day? And it's a straight 5-5 game right, $5 to call?
A lot of stuff that was from riverking originally wasn't used anymore so the email is probably out of date. I'd try reaching out to their telegram again, message probably just fell through the cracks. I generally message the https://t.me/Pokerkingcambodia and arrange the hotel through there. It's been full occasionally, but normally been fine booking last minute.

1) I think you have to play 1-6pm to qualify for it. There's also some sort of lucky draw every hour at 6:30 for 15-100 dollars. They've been changing these around since I was there so I'd message them directly to confirm.
2) Tables been starting early, I came at 11:58 the other day and they had a full table with 1 waiting. It's 5/5, $5 to call, 20 open with optional straddles on button and utg (no limit), so you'll have some bongs doing like 25-50$+ straddles fairly regularly. The game often becomes 5/10 ~3-4pm depending on the players. The bigger omaha generally goes to like 11:45 - 8 or 9 pm, and if there's 1/3 plo it goes later.
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09-18-2023 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LinaPoker
A lot of stuff that was from riverking originally wasn't used anymore so the email is probably out of date. I'd try reaching out to their telegram again, message probably just fell through the cracks. I generally message the https://t.me/Pokerkingcambodia and arrange the hotel through there. It's been full occasionally, but normally been fine booking last minute.

1) I think you have to play 1-6pm to qualify for it. There's also some sort of lucky draw every hour at 6:30 for 15-100 dollars. They've been changing these around since I was there so I'd message them directly to confirm.
2) Tables been starting early, I came at 11:58 the other day and they had a full table with 1 waiting. It's 5/5, $5 to call, 20 open with optional straddles on button and utg (no limit), so you'll have some bongs doing like 25-50$+ straddles fairly regularly. The game often becomes 5/10 ~3-4pm depending on the players. The bigger omaha generally goes to like 11:45 - 8 or 9 pm, and if there's 1/3 plo it goes later.
I woke up today and finally got a response from them on Telegram, very interesting timing...lol.

How does the transition to 5/10 happen, I'm assuming everyone at the table has to agree to it? If even just one person refuses then it stays 5-5?

Apparently they also have a 1/3 PLO promotion, $40 for the first 5 players who arrive and play from 6pm till 11pm. I'm already thinking conceivably I can play the 5-5 PLO from 12pm-4pm, and then the 1/3 PLO from 6pm-11pm haha.
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09-18-2023 , 07:14 AM
The 5/5 tends to play a lot bigger than the 1/3. The player pool does not overlap too much. Yes, it will stay 5/5 if someone objects but I would recommend not to be THAT guy. The bongs in that game will give you action if you give them action, if you nit it up, not so much. You should bring a healthy BR for the bigger game. Generally speaking, the RK/PK is usually the daytime game in town, don't count on it running until 11PM or later, has been like that for years. Naga is probably your safest bet for late night. The occasional late evening or overnight session at RK/PK happens but it will be an exception rather than the rule
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09-18-2023 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP
I woke up today and finally got a response from them on Telegram, very interesting timing...lol.

How does the transition to 5/10 happen, I'm assuming everyone at the table has to agree to it? If even just one person refuses then it stays 5-5?

Apparently they also have a 1/3 PLO promotion, $40 for the first 5 players who arrive and play from 6pm till 11pm. I'm already thinking conceivably I can play the 5-5 PLO from 12pm-4pm, and then the 1/3 PLO from 6pm-11pm haha.
Everyone has to agree to it, but if there are a few people waiting they might just make the 2nd table 5/10 and the action players will go there. So it's better to agree to it.

I mentioned it to their floor when I was in today.

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Originally Posted by FWWM
The 5/5 tends to play a lot bigger than the 1/3. The player pool does not overlap too much. Yes, it will stay 5/5 if someone objects but I would recommend not to be THAT guy. The bongs in that game will give you action if you give them action, if you nit it up, not so much. You should bring a healthy BR for the bigger game. Generally speaking, the RK/PK is usually the daytime game in town, don't count on it running until 11PM or later, has been like that for years. Naga is probably your safest bet for late night. The occasional late evening or overnight session at RK/PK happens but it will be an exception rather than the rule
This, only the 1/3 PLO will go past 11pm and it hasnt been going as late atm
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09-18-2023 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FWWM
The 5/5 tends to play a lot bigger than the 1/3. The player pool does not overlap too much. Yes, it will stay 5/5 if someone objects but I would recommend not to be THAT guy. The bongs in that game will give you action if you give them action, if you nit it up, not so much. You should bring a healthy BR for the bigger game. Generally speaking, the RK/PK is usually the daytime game in town, don't count on it running until 11PM or later, has been like that for years. Naga is probably your safest bet for late night. The occasional late evening or overnight session at RK/PK happens but it will be an exception rather than the rule
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Originally Posted by LinaPoker
Everyone has to agree to it, but if there are a few people waiting they might just make the 2nd table 5/10 and the action players will go there. So it's better to agree to it.
I definitely understand the concept of keeping the fish happy and not tapping the tank. But I also need to practice good bank-roll management for myself and not be playing out of my limits. It sounds like the 5-5 already plays pretty big with the straddles and re-straddles, so 5/10 would prolly be too out of my comfort zone.

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I mentioned it to their floor when I was in today.
Awww no wonder, thanks good looking out!

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This, only the 1/3 PLO will go past 11pm and it hasnt been going as late atm
Damn looks like I won't be able to grind that second shift then lol.

Oh and a few more questions I just thought of:
1) Is tipping after winning a pot customary there like in the US? (the rake is already so damn high!)

2) Do they allow running it twice? And if so, do they rake twice?

3) What exactly are "bongs"? Obviously it refers to donks, but what's the story/context behind the term? Have never seen that term used outside of this thread before.

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09-18-2023 , 12:58 PM
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I definitely understand the concept of keeping the fish happy and not tapping the tank. But I also need to practice good bank-roll management for myself and not be playing out of my limits. It sounds like the 5-5 already plays pretty big with the straddles and re-straddles, so 5/10 would prolly be too out of my comfort zone.



Awww no wonder, thanks good looking out!



Damn looks like I won't be able to grind that second shift then lol.

Oh and a few more questions I just thought of:
1) Is tipping after winning a pot customary there like in the US? (the rake is already so damn high!)

2) Do they allow running it twice? And if so, do they rake twice?

3) What exactly are "bongs"? Obviously it refers to donks, but what's the story/context behind the term? Have never seen that term used outside of this thread before.
2nd shift can be viable if you don't mind 1/3. Like 1/3 plo was still going tonight when I left.

1) Yup, still customary to tip.
2) Can run twice, no extra rake. (if 3 way all in, can only run sidepot twice)
3) Bong is just cambodian term to refer the senior or higher up person. So most of the khmer businessmen will be referred to as bong
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09-18-2023 , 11:45 PM
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But I also need to practice good bank-roll management for myself and not be playing out of my limits. It sounds like the 5-5 already plays pretty big with the straddles and re-straddles, so 5/10 would prolly be too out of my comfort zone.
There's no shame in not playing that game if you are not rolled for it, or cannot easily access your roll in town. With it being PLO also, 5 figure swings can easily happen. You certainly wouldn't be the first barang going broke in it.
Bong is used pretty unspecifically. Basically every guy can and will be called bong at times, including yourself if you are around.
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09-19-2023 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LinaPoker
2nd shift can be viable if you don't mind 1/3. Like 1/3 plo was still going tonight when I left.

1) Yup, still customary to tip.
2) Can run twice, no extra rake. (if 3 way all in, can only run sidepot twice)
3) Bong is just cambodian term to refer the senior or higher up person. So most of the khmer businessmen will be referred to as bong
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Originally Posted by FWWM
There's no shame in not playing that game if you are not rolled for it, or cannot easily access your roll in town. With it being PLO also, 5 figure swings can easily happen. You certainly wouldn't be the first barang going broke in it.
Bong is used pretty unspecifically. Basically every guy can and will be called bong at times, including yourself if you are around.
Cool thanks, really do appreciate the help from the both of ya! So do you guys live and grind there?

I guess I'll start planning my trip soon. A few logistical questions:
1) Is there a difference or preference between getting the Visa on Arrival or getting the eVisa beforehand? I read that the corrupt officials at the land borders will demand higher amounts for the VoA at the land-borders, does this also happen at the airport?

2) Any recommendations for a 30 day SIM card?

3) Oh and does the poker room have safe deposit boxes? I don't trust the hotel room safes all that much, and ofc don't want to have all my cash on me all the time either.
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09-19-2023 , 10:21 AM
The main difference is that an e-visa doesn't take a full page of your passport, so that's valuable. Mainly cos of that, I didn't get a a VoA for ages but I didn't hear of problems with it, and I doubt that's something that would happen at PNH. I could imagine that happening at some other border post.
SIM card, some peeps recommend smart but I did not find much or any difference between the major providers. If you want to save a few bucks get it in town, not at the airport. I never used it but I think PK offers to open a tab and they will keep your money safe.
I've never been to that hotel but I'd guess it's safe, generally PP is much safer than its reputation, as long as you don't do anything stupid, don't flash large amounts of money outside the poker room, don't carry large amounts while drinking etc. It's still Asia and the regular guy isn't out to get you, Buddhist traditions, being honest and all that, even if poor and sleeping on the streets. It is not the US or latin america. I usually stay at sun and moon hotel when I'm in town, I can vouch for that place being pretty safe. For a cheaper option I recommend Lux hotel. But the PK hotel is most likely fine.
I don't live there, I live in Hongkong, but as you can see I've been there quite a bit, and I never really had any major issues at any place. Worst thing that usually happens in PP is some bar or nightclub will inflate your bill, but even that is not very common. Much worse in other places, like Saigon. The worst place I've ever stayed in PP and probably in the wider region was the comfort star 2, haha. If you know, you know. But that was also safe, it just wasn't a very nice hotel. The outlaw of this thread talked me into it, back in the day.
Use grab/passapp to avoid haggling/being overcharged by tuktuks. And if you are at the airport walk just outside of it and get a tuktuk or taxi, can save a few bucks. Have fun.
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09-19-2023 , 04:00 PM
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Cool thanks, really do appreciate the help from the both of ya! So do you guys live and grind there?

I guess I'll start planning my trip soon. A few logistical questions:
1) Is there a difference or preference between getting the Visa on Arrival or getting the eVisa beforehand? I read that the corrupt officials at the land borders will demand higher amounts for the VoA at the land-borders, does this also happen at the airport?

2) Any recommendations for a 30 day SIM card?

3) Oh and does the poker room have safe deposit boxes? I don't trust the hotel room safes all that much, and ofc don't want to have all my cash on me all the time either.
1) I always just get VoA without issue, at airport they just charge you the standard fee. At land border worst case they ask for $5 extra and do the paperwork for you.
2) Just get a regular metfone or smart sim, it's like $1 a week for 8gb
3) Can deposit at PK and sign as you play / withdraw as needed. If you get a E visa and plan to stay longer, I highly encourage you to setup an ABA account.

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The main difference is that an e-visa doesn't take a full page of your passport, so that's valuable. Mainly cos of that, I didn't get a a VoA for ages but I didn't hear of problems with it, and I doubt that's something that would happen at PNH. I could imagine that happening at some other border post.
SIM card, some peeps recommend smart but I did not find much or any difference between the major providers. If you want to save a few bucks get it in town, not at the airport. I never used it but I think PK offers to open a tab and they will keep your money safe.
I've never been to that hotel but I'd guess it's safe, generally PP is much safer than its reputation, as long as you don't do anything stupid, don't flash large amounts of money outside the poker room, don't carry large amounts while drinking etc. It's still Asia and the regular guy isn't out to get you, Buddhist traditions, being honest and all that, even if poor and sleeping on the streets. It is not the US or latin america. I usually stay at sun and moon hotel when I'm in town, I can vouch for that place being pretty safe. For a cheaper option I recommend Lux hotel. But the PK hotel is most likely fine.
I don't live there, I live in Hongkong, but as you can see I've been there quite a bit, and I never really had any major issues at any place. Worst thing that usually happens in PP is some bar or nightclub will inflate your bill, but even that is not very common. Much worse in other places, like Saigon. The worst place I've ever stayed in PP and probably in the wider region was the comfort star 2, haha. If you know, you know. But that was also safe, it just wasn't a very nice hotel. The outlaw of this thread talked me into it, back in the day.
Use grab/passapp to avoid haggling/being overcharged by tuktuks. And if you are at the airport walk just outside of it and get a tuktuk or taxi, can save a few bucks. Have fun.
Oh Comfort star 2, I stayed there more days than I should have. Nothing like being woken up by a cockroach on your face.
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09-19-2023 , 09:17 PM
Is it still easy to get a visa for staying 1+ year? Business visa I guess? How much would it costs and do you have any recommendations on where to do it? Also can you rent an apartment if you have a dog? I read somewhere that you can't if it's something like a condo residence or serviced apartments but normal apartments all good right? And for opening a bank account there just need passport + visa, right?
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09-20-2023 , 05:51 AM
AFAIK visas are still easy, just need to find an agency that will do the work for you, but just ask expats around in town, join FB groups or ask at PK, they can probably also help you. And you should enter with an E-type (business) visa, not with the T-type (tourist) visa or you might have to do a border run. 30 days initially, then you can extend for 6 or 12 months indefinitely. Not sure what's the current price, but not superexpensive. As for your dog it would depend on the landlord I suppose, but shouldn't be too hard to find something. Again, money talks, just find an agent in town.
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