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04-26-2021 , 07:27 PM
You'll have a 1k month one of these days.
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04-26-2021 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
You'll have a 1k month one of these days.
I've had my share believe me and I don't plan on having any more. But I know what you mean and one cannot predict the future obviously. I was just pointing out that there is a difference between those who actively try to succeed here either in their game or in something else and those who quite literally do nothing and then just bit*h about how games suck, they're running bad or how they can't find a job. Maybe they shouldn't have waited for a worldwide pandemic to start looking. I know all too well from my own life and my father's that things in life can turn on a dime. But he'll pass from this life knowing he did everything he could to make sure that he and his own didn't starve or go broke. Hopefully I'll be able to say the same.
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04-27-2021 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by poker_triad
I've had my share believe me and I don't plan on having any more. But I know what you mean and one cannot predict the future obviously. I was just pointing out that there is a difference between those who actively try to succeed here either in their game or in something else and those who quite literally do nothing and then just bit*h about how games suck, they're running bad or how they can't find a job. Maybe they shouldn't have waited for a worldwide pandemic to start looking. I know all too well from my own life and my father's that things in life can turn on a dime. But he'll pass from this life knowing he did everything he could to make sure that he and his own didn't starve or go broke. Hopefully I'll be able to say the same.
Absolving women from taking responsibility for their own economic well being and allowing them to live parasitic lives while playing blame games and using shaming language is the biggest mistake Asian men (and some older western guys) make.

Any bum can provide bed space and food for a kid and home school it and once you stop catering to women's hypergamous instincts and narcissism (my son / husband is better than yours and provides more for me) life suddenly becomes fairly easy.

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04-27-2021 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by iLiveInAsia
Absolving women from taking responsibility for their own economic well being and allowing them to live parasitic lives while playing blame games and using shaming language is the biggest mistake Asian men (and some older western guys) make.

Any bum can provide bed space and food for a kid and home school it and once you stop catering to women's hypergamous instincts and narcissism (my son / husband is better than yours and provides more for me) life suddenly becomes fairly easy.
I have to respectfully disagree with your statements as for one I think you are projecting western values onto Asian women. My wife is a simple girl from the farm and to place the burden on her for "correcting" the products of the concepts you speak of is rather impractical and quite frankly unfair. And I'm not quite sure what my ability to provide for my family has to do with hypergamy, although I'm sure you do have a train of thought there that could be explained with a more detailed post. Once again though, I respectfully disagree with your assertion that any "bum" can provide for their wife and family. I would have written it a bit differently and said any bum "should" provide. But living in Asia I'm sure you already know that many do not. I realize I may sound at times as if I do want some sort of credit, but I do not. It's one of those weird things where I could care less about getting credit for what I do, but do not want to be mischaracterized for what I am not.
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04-27-2021 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by poker_triad
I have to respectfully disagree with your statements as for one I think you are projecting western values onto Asian women. My wife is a simple girl from the farm and to place the burden on her for "correcting" the products of the concepts you speak of is rather impractical and quite frankly unfair. And I'm not quite sure what my ability to provide for my family has to do with hypergamy, although I'm sure you do have a train of thought there that could be explained with a more detailed post. Once again though, I respectfully disagree with your assertion that any "bum" can provide for their wife and family. I would have written it a bit differently and said any bum "should" provide. But living in Asia I'm sure you already know that many do not. I realize I may sound at times as if I do want some sort of credit, but I do not. It's one of those weird things where I could care less about getting credit for what I do, but do not want to be mischaracterized for what I am not.
Not talking about re-educating farm girls but overpriviledged city women that speak fluent English, parasite off mommy and daddy, do some easy job that exposes them to men from similar backgrounds and then come with grand demands and expectations while providing nothing in return.

Common in Bangkok, probably a thing in Phnom Penh as well now that so much money has flooded in.

I don't look down on people from simple backgrounds but to create a level mental playing field is tough even without language and cultural barriers.
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04-27-2021 , 02:14 PM
PT: I was 100% joking with you.

ILive: There's plenty of regular women in the demographics you're stereotyping. If this problem is actually occurring at the rate you're suggesting, then the problem might be due to where you're looking.
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04-27-2021 , 02:17 PM
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ILive: There's plenty of regular women in the demographics you're stereotyping. If this problem is actually occurring at the rate you're suggesting, then the problem might be due to where you're looking.
you may notice a general theme to his posts among all the threads

i could be mistaken, but he also believes hookers are so uppity they won't accept clients unless they are ripped chads, but legit could be confusing him with another poster who believes that
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04-27-2021 , 02:21 PM
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PT: I was 100% joking with you.
Sorry BGP but being in complete lockdown for 5 weeks in the last two months has perhaps done funny things to my mindLiving in Cambodia and turning Pro
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04-27-2021 , 06:05 PM
Sorry to hear, bud. I hope the situation improves soon.
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04-29-2021 , 03:29 PM
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Sorry to hear, bud. I hope the situation improves soon.
Thanks BGP but it doesn't look to get better any time soon. I think the government needs to figure out that this is not the result of a recent outbreak but due to the fact that recent mass testing across the country that did not take place prior is picking up positive cases. I think once they realize that we will be fine as our numbers are still relatively low compared to other countries, especially ones neighboring us directly.
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05-04-2021 , 05:11 AM
Looks like I was incorrect about things not getting better as the government announced last night that the lock down will end on the 5th and that the city will be back open on the 6th of May. There are a few caveats of course as they also said that "red" zones will remain restricted but it looks like other parts will be relatively open. It's still unclear as to whether or not there will still be a curfew from 8:00 PM to 5:00 AM. My bet would be that the curfew would still apply and I don't think the bars will open back any time soon as they have already stated that restaurants will still only be delivery only. Still this is all good news and life should return to some sort of normalcy.
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05-04-2021 , 08:11 AM
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Looks like I was incorrect about things not getting better as the government announced last night that the lock down will end on the 5th and that the city will be back open on the 6th of May. There are a few caveats of course as they also said that "red" zones will remain restricted but it looks like other parts will be relatively open. It's still unclear as to whether or not there will still be a curfew from 8:00 PM to 5:00 AM. My bet would be that the curfew would still apply and I don't think the bars will open back any time soon as they have already stated that restaurants will still only be delivery only. Still this is all good news and life should return to some sort of normalcy.
It's sad to hear that, but now it's such a frequent occurrence. Restrictions are imposed abruptly and indefinitely
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05-04-2021 , 03:53 PM
He posts good news and you write that it is sad.
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05-19-2021 , 05:11 PM
Things continue to improve as the coloring scheme for the city has been nearly done away with. Phnom Penh was previously divided into red, orange and yellow zones. Red was deemed the most infected and was in complete lockdown; yellow was deemed the safest zone with people moving around relatively freely and orange somewhere in the middle. So now the 24/7 lockdown has been lifted, the color zones done away with and now all there is left is the curfew and the alcohol ban. I imagine the curfew will end soon and the ban is set to expire in one more week. The bars should open back up soon thereafter and then life should return to normal.
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06-26-2021 , 08:20 AM
A lot of things are open now except for entertainment venues; i.e., clubs, hostess bars, KTVs, cinemas, etc. Regular bars and restaurants are all open and Secrets is open although they have girls. As they have a full kitchen and serves as a restaurant as well the police have allowed them to open. Infection numbers continue to rise but still pales in comparison to other countries. $2K deposit upon entry is still enforced and they are starting to keep more and more of it to the point that some on Facebook have reported that they got none of the money back. Naga is still closed but hopes remain high that they will reopen sometime in July. Just an update.
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06-26-2021 , 08:41 AM
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$2K deposit upon entry is still enforced and they are starting to keep more and more of it to the point that some on Facebook have reported that they got none of the money back.
good old Scambodia...

What is the visa situation these days for those staying in the country? Is the government trying to get rid of westerners on "business" visas or is this less of a concern than in Thailand and Vietnam?

How likely is this type of stuff?

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06-26-2021 , 01:15 PM
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good old Scambodia...

What is the visa situation these days for those staying in the country? Is the government trying to get rid of westerners on "business" visas or is this less of a concern than in Thailand and Vietnam?

How likely is this type of stuff?

Interesting that you link that video because I just got back from Secrets drinking with a friend of mine who spent 2 years in Thailand. He mentioned that he likes it here more exactly because that sort of stuff happens much less here, if at all. The visa situation isn't what it was a few years ago, but still easy to get a business visa and extend. As usual it's just a matter of money.
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07-01-2021 , 03:50 AM
8 years in TH, 3 years in KH.

been in fights/physical stuff with locals in both.

In thailand before you know it, your 1v1 will turn into a 5vs1, 2 of them will have random weapons and you will get hit from behind n all sorts of scummy **** like that. also they love to throw kicks

In cambodia, bunch of randoms just looking whats going on, noone does anything then the guy you have a problem with just walks away. In my first month staying in Phnom penh, i saw a white guy arguing with the workers from the electrical company...like 3 or 4 guys. White guy grabs one of there phones and yells something out like "**** YOU!" then throws the phone onto the road breaking it into pieces...the khmer worker just picks his phone up and does nothing, i couldn't believe it. If it happens in Thailand like that then its about 10 to 20% chance the farang gets murdered.

some differences between the two that i noticed.

nationalism - Thais love there country, cambodians couldn't really care

religion - Thais are way more involved with Buddhism. Cambodia it exists and you notice it, but not to the level of Thailand.

Males - Thais mega arrogant, total ****s tbh if you try to speak only english with them. very rare to find one that was easy to talk with. When you speak thai with them it gets a little better but they still don't really want to have anything to do with you unless they are making money off of you. Khmers always really open, easy to talk with and no problems talking in english.

Women - Thais more feminine and sluttier. They both act like children

some other stuff i could go into, but will leave it there.
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07-01-2021 , 01:21 PM
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They both act like children
Is this mostly because they expect you to pay for everything or are there other more significant reasons?
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07-01-2021 , 01:24 PM
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Khmers always really open, easy to talk with
Is this because there is relatively less tourism, so they are more interested in foreigners and have had less bad experiences with foreigners or is it a more deeper rooted part of the culture?
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07-02-2021 , 01:53 AM
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Is this mostly because they expect you to pay for everything or are there other more significant reasons?
i dont know for sure but prob has something to do with family values and gender roles in SEA society.

In thailand, women will go to college and get office jobs but are not really encouraged to climb the ladder. There families encourage and pressure them to find a husband. Grandparents usually will play a large role in raising the kids while the mother and father work. In Cambodia i dont thibk its like this so much but the thai girls def more childish then the khmers. Personally i like it, i dont want to be having political discussions or talking business and strat with women. Women for flirting and joking around, men for serious ****. This is much better imo.

Basically responibility for women is super low and men do all the hard/tough stuff

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Is this because there is relatively less tourism, so they are more interested in foreigners and have had less bad experiences with foreigners or is it a more deeper rooted part of the culture?
Could be yea. I cant say for sure and there is prob many different factors but a few things.

1. Thais are the most proud and nationalist country in the region, but have the most non thais living in the country + the ruling thais are sino thai = chinese/thai mix. So imagine being a regular thai person. You are ruled by people that arent even 100% of your own race and flooded by another group of people who for the most part come to get drunk act like idiots and **** your women. Lol.

2. Colonialism also possibly plays a part. Thailand is only country in the region that didnt get colonized by euros. They are so proud of it that they sing about it in the anthem.

3. A common question i got asked from low level thais when they realixed i could speak a bit was 'why do farang like ugly thai women?' Lol. Imagine if africans or arabs came to euro countries and wifed up the ugliest and fattest heffers and bought them range rovers and mansions, and then on top of that the women were career prostitutes. Pretty weird right? This is a thing in thailand. Onky difference is there isnt fat chicks in thailand but i can assure you that most of women with farangs in thai, the avg thai male veiws as a 3/10
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07-02-2021 , 10:03 PM
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i dont know for sure but prob has something to do with family values and gender roles in SEA society.

In thailand, women will go to college and get office jobs but are not really encouraged to climb the ladder. There families encourage and pressure them to find a husband. Grandparents usually will play a large role in raising the kids while the mother and father work. In Cambodia i dont thibk its like this so much but the thai girls def more childish then the khmers. Personally i like it, i dont want to be having political discussions or talking business and strat with women. Women for flirting and joking around, men for serious ****. This is much better imo.

Basically responibility for women is super low and men do all the hard/tough stuff



Could be yea. I cant say for sure and there is prob many different factors but a few things.

1. Thais are the most proud and nationalist country in the region, but have the most non thais living in the country + the ruling thais are sino thai = chinese/thai mix. So imagine being a regular thai person. You are ruled by people that arent even 100% of your own race and flooded by another group of people who for the most part come to get drunk act like idiots and **** your women. Lol.

2. Colonialism also possibly plays a part. Thailand is only country in the region that didnt get colonized by euros. They are so proud of it that they sing about it in the anthem.

3. A common question i got asked from low level thais when they realixed i could speak a bit was 'why do farang like ugly thai women?' Lol. Imagine if africans or arabs came to euro countries and wifed up the ugliest and fattest heffers and bought them range rovers and mansions, and then on top of that the women were career prostitutes. Pretty weird right? This is a thing in thailand. Onky difference is there isnt fat chicks in thailand but i can assure you that most of women with farangs in thai, the avg thai male veiws as a 3/10
Interesting points, and i had no idea you were capable of speaking like a normal person on 2p2. Australia has changed you.
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07-02-2021 , 10:25 PM
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Khmers always really open, easy to talk with and no problems talking in english.

Women - Thais more feminine and sluttier. They both act like children
On your first point it really depends. While I generally agree, you didn't spend much time playing in the live scene here and if you're dealing with the "bongs" I would say the opposite of your point is more accurate. Khmers you dealt with were easy to get along with because they were in a position beneath you and had to prostrate themselves in order to have any hope of ever benefitting from you. When dealing with anyone above a certain point in society, there's a much deeper hatred of foreigners that exists. And before some start pointing out about how many times they've been to KTV with such people, just enter into a business relationship with any of them and you'll get a quick lesson in what I mean.

In regards to Cambodian women, it is a more modest culture here especially in regards to female sexuality. The interesting thing here though is that they try to hang onto it even when working in the bars. I don't blame them though as the stigma of working in such a setting here is a bit greater here in my opinion. It's always an interesting dynamic when poker players go out and bring girls and there's a mix of those who are a part of that scene and those that came from "better" backgrounds. I've seen girls that literally just stopped working at a bar like two weeks prior treat other girls that still work in a bar like utter garbage.
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07-03-2021 , 12:03 AM
The bongs at the poker table are not really representative for society though, as they are the 1%ers who have monopolized all the power and resources. I never had a problem with them though, but yeah haven't really done business or anything.

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Onky difference is there isnt fat chicks in thailand
Not sure about that one, actually I think this is one of the main differences between Thailand and Cambodia. Tons of fat girls in Thailand, I mean hookers not so much, but just regular girls who work in hotels, restaurants and stuff you see lots of fat ones, especially in Phuket but also other parts. Cambodia not so much, you can probably also notice the wealth gap there...
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07-03-2021 , 01:11 AM
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And before some start pointing out about how many times they've been to KTV with such people, just enter into a business relationship with any of them and you'll get a quick lesson in what I mean.
Most people attempting to do business in SEA generally have never done similar things in a western country and have no deeper understanding of the local language and culture, thinking they're still back home and find out the hard way that things are done a bit differently.

The patronage system actually can make things much easier than in a western country for a simple person that just wants to run a restaurant / small shop as long as he/she finds the right superior who takes care of all the bureaucratic stuff for a cut.

When it comes to investments this kind of stuff is likely to happen though:

https://www.cityam.com/rothschild-la...ms-battle-ace/

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