Hoping for the next one to fall between Oct 13-23..

This is just my experience with Cambodia and Phnom Penh. I personally did not like the place at all. The filthy smell is everywhere. The garbage is everywhere, people sleeping on street corners. People pissing in the street, litterally everywhere, it's like they are dogs but in human form. Every ****er out there disrupts your day by shouting at you if you need a tuk tuk. For **** sake man, I'm on holiday, leave me the **** alone already.

The place is busy, I mean really busy, a load of people, literally everywhere, the markets are vile, unsanitary nightmares. I can only imagine how food is made that sells in supermarkets! It's also not cheap here, probably the only thing that is cheap is beer/alcohol.

To my surprise though restaurants are quite good but again they get their produce from markets etc, plus the place is a ****hole overall, so it's like putting lipstick on a pig.

The pollution of the tuk tuks, cars and moto's is terrible. My asthma starting flaring up and I pretty much stopped using my inhaler when I quit smoking 5 years ago but over here the pollution was so bad I needed my inhaler.

Apartments, I tried a local agent think it was Elephant.com or something, every apartment he showed me was for my upper budget. None of those landlords would negotiate the usual 10-20%. None of them, probably seen 7 different apartments. They all seemed overpriced as well and still not willing to negotiate.

The poker room, I'll start with the positive, Mike is a great guy, very welcoming and friendly. The players at the room are pretty terrible at poker (plo), even the 2 young regs I identified so if you don't mind all the other negatives and you want to print money, you should def head over.

What I did not like about the room, the food was pretty bad, granted I only had 1 dish but how can you **** up a bowl of chicken and noodles? The staff are a little rude, both times I ordered a soft drink I got suggestive eyes thrown at me, as they were saying hey man you are sitting next the fridge, just ****ing get it yourself. I mean wtf, that's why you are a ****ing waitress, right, so I can concentrate on my job!

I ended up only playing 1 session but that was enough for me, if all else was good outside of the poker room I would of dealt with the rather difficult staff at RK (except Mike, as he really is a great guy) but I pretty much made my mind up real quick that Phnom Penh is just not a place I want to live long term at all.

Take it with a grain of salt, you are not me and you'll likely have different experiences.

What exactly wasn't cheap?

Thanks for the write up.

I only stayed 5 nights but I thought tuk tuks were pricey, restaurants are similar to western restaurants and groceries.

Ah that's disappointing.

Tikmassy wow that is some post my man.

What did you actually expect or wish to see and get out of the adventure pls Sir, also what are your favourite countries and ones that are Cheaper to live pls.I only went there the first time because the Flights to Lima etc virtually doubled so I had always wanted to see Cambodia as the people have had it pretty tough from Pol Pot, Russia, USA and all the Neighboring countries.

I too found some items more expensive than Australia as well and I was surprised at how much they charged for locally made products in the clothing and footwear side. Food was cheap and fresh, I booked a return flight and 25 days accommodation including buffet breakfast for $2150 aud. 2nd visit with Daughter flew from Bangkok for 5 days, she loved the place and the people and is writing about her trip also her meeting a Survivor of 21

Tikstar where do you come from and what other countries have you lived in pls, oh and how much did you win at pokers pls. When I read your first post on your visit to RK and how easy it was to win ( I Lost but I suck) I was expecting to see and read some huge days at the tables etc. ah well maybe head over and swap with Info for a week and report on his GF performance in the sack after all of Info's coaching.

If you can't find any charm to PP then SEA is probably not for you.

**** sorry I have been watching a show and kept forgetting as usual what I was actually doing. Tuk Tuk prices do vary but I got one from 310 st to RK for $5 and then when I had to leave urgently I grabbed a Cab and he charged me $4 I was shocked and gave him a good tip as he also went direct instead of the usual cutting down blocked side streets etc.

With my Daughter we got a taxi for the day for $75 and he went everywhere with us massages shopping different places it was great, he took us to some excellent French Restaurants where we had a huge lunch for 3 for $30 incl $4 tip. He took us to his favourite massage place and it had a nail and facial as well so we all spent a lazy 3 hours there. Cut throat shaves were $1 and washing ironing 50c a pound or kg? cant remember but they do an excellent job.

My daughter wanted to try the steak house joint on the River so after a cruise on the Minnow we went there and it was Beautiful Japanese steaks cooked on the stone and the Lovely waitresses looked after both of us and cut my daughters steak and showed her the best way to cut etc. Bloody Beautiful but at I think about $140 we only went twice but would go back again tomorrow if I had the chance. Most places were approx 5 to 10 bucks and the supermarkets were reasonably priced well I thought they were.

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At rk it's s normal that as a player you take your Softdrinks by yourself that's probably the reason that the fridge is not behind the bar..

Also market's are from locals for locals so you can't expect western standards from a local third world market..

Supermarkets on the other side are mostly for foreigners and have more or less western standards..

Agree with most of the other things you wrote. Cambodia is a ****hole and definitely not for everyone but at least i got used to it ^^

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Looks like Sihanoukville.

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Yea for sure I´d like to get to know some people.
For me it´s pretty sure that I am going to PP in mid october. Excpect i might take 2 weeks holiday somewhere near.
Do you have a skype adress or so?

First of all I am not judging PP, it just wasn't my cup of tea. Prices are very similar to the UK obviously not London but outside London prices are very comparable.

For example my 1 bed apartment costs $400 a month here in the UK, I can get a similar apartment for $450-$500 in PP. I'm almost certain supermarkets are cheaper in the UK, same goes for restaurants, actually they might be priced similarly. You can eat decent meals over here for $10 per person too. Fast food, bar and cafe food cheaper!

You also have to take health into consideration. I have never been ill eating in the UK. Yet in Thailand I got sick once and almost got sick a 2nd time, which kind of left me questioning which place was going to give me my next problem. Then take the cockroaches, cats and dogs that freely enter and leave the restaurants you eat in, meh I don't like that, I like nice clean hygienic places to eat.

A lot of things are priced very similarly.
Think Taxi's
Corner shops (7-11)
Drinking in bars
Restaurants
Renting apartments
Supermarkets

I did my laundry for $1.5 a kg (without ironing) in PP, my guest house took care of it. In Thailand it was 50 baht with ironing.

I thought Thailand was a bit cheaper than PP, but still supermarkets were overpriced in my opinion compared to the UK, granted I am only talking about Koh Samui. I say overpriced because frankly I thought I was going to a 3rd world place with 3rd world prices.

Koh samui is breath taking, the landscape, the mountain that you see from literally everywhere, the lushness, the palm trees, the beaches. That is a nice place to stay and I don't mind paying a similar amount of money I would if in the West. The woman are horrendously ugly though but that's just my opinion. I really tried to get yellow fever over there but Samui is not the place to get YV, I assumed hot Thai woman would be all over Thailand but come to think of it, and I heard this before, all the hot ones go where the money is, that means they are all in Patts, Phuket etc. If I ever go back I'll head over to CM, Phuket, Pattaya because that's were all the hot woman reside.

I am not looking to live like a local whilst there, I am sure you can live cheaper there than you can in the West but if you want to live a similar lifestyle then I am almost convinced it's going to cost you more over there. I am not just talking about eating Western food obviously that will increase your monthly nut considerably, even if you go local with food, you'd still end up paying very similar, perhaps even more.

I expected things to be cheaper overall, compared to the UK. If I am spending £1000 a month here, I was expecting to spend less over there but that's just not the case. You end up spending about the same for the same lifestyle. Granted if you live near a beach you do have that as a bonus, but does the quality of living really go up whilst living in SEA?? You can argue that you have more sun, I guess. What other benefits do you have compared to living in the UK?

As for countries that are cheaper, like I said I think a lot of Western countries are priced very similarly. I have been to Malta, Mexico and both places are priced similarly to the UK and Samui and PP. Cheaper countries that offer the same lifestyle, I'm not sure to be honest. Perhaps some Eastern European countries.

Forgot to say, I won $170 in that game, only played 1 session. If I was in the mood to gamble I'd of won $600. I folded 2 hands that I could of gone with but choose the less variance route and folded, they both would of won.

That night that I played, if it's like that every night I would make 10k a month no joke, they were that bad. Equivalent to 1ct/2ct no joke. Any online plo 10 or 20 player would destroy that game!

My free bit of advice if anyone wants to win in that game, just nut peddle, most flops are contested multi way thus you want to be in there with nut potential hands. Playing like the locals do ie every hand will get you in a lot of bad spots, were you probably end up with a ton of 2nd best hands, because that j high flush is no longer any good when mister local fish starts betting into 5 people on the turn. So I suggest a very tight preflop game, and just wait for big draw nut hands or obviously the nuts. Then just value bet hard, they'll call with anything!

Obviously if you are more experienced at plo and you are good at hand reading and player reading then you can play much much looser and make a ton more of money. You'll know exactly when you should throw away your medium strength hands and when to play them like you have the nuts.

This is Omaha I'm talking about. You also don't want to be 3-betting and bloating the pot so much because everybody simply calls and you are then stuck with a big pot but still no equity advantage over the rest of the field. 4-betting AAxx might be different as long as you can get a lot of your money in preflop you will do fine even it goes multi way, sure you'll still end up with 20-25% equity but once in a while you'll hold and scoop a nice 4way pot. Better yet most people fold and the 3bettor calls and you play HU with AAxx.

What is the buy-in and how many re-buys were done, seems like a big prize pool for 44 players and 10 alternates. (54 total) BTW I hate turbo style, I like 40-60 minute rounds but that is just me.

Is WarMage87 back on the forum? I miss his post and he really livened the board up. BTW love the photos of you him and the girls, looks like you are sitting with your kids.

The buy-in was $50 and it was a rebuy/add-on event. Players are allowed to double buy in double right off the bat, which most do, and the same principle applies to the rebuys. And the locals who have played this format since the start of the room buy in a lot. The most I've seen myself is 18 rebuys in the January event, and that's not even the record according to the other manager. It's no doubt a popular format as we've attracted more entrants each time this year, but as I previously mentioned there still certain aspects that I would like to tweak. So for our regular Sunday event tomorrow I'm going to introduce a few new changes and will see how it goes.

As far as I know WarMage is still perma-banned. He's in Manila for a Poker Stars event but should be back soon. And I'm not sure if your last comment means he looks young or if I look old. Perhaps both?

He looks like a 8th grader in high school and you well not that young, lol

Another question for the PP veterans in this thread:

I've been looking at lots of apartments on khmer24, mostly serviced ones, and many of them (around $400-$450/month) look really nice. Now I know that many of the listings are overpriced, but is this true for the serviced ones as well? My impression is that those should be harder to negotiate since it's probably a company and not a person renting them out. If anyone has knowledge about this please feel free to share

The ones I got shown were in that price range and looked decent/clean modern 1 bed apartments but none of them were serviced. You still add electricity and cleaning. Water and Wifi might be included. I'd have to buy all bedding, pots and pans etc.

For Phnom Penh I feel they are overpriced but good luck trying to negotiate, I think most of the landlords have money,they rather not rent at a 10% discount much better to have it sit empty.

I just found a new place to live, near my current place and not far from the Riverking. In fact, I pick up the keys today. It's not ideal nor is it "baller" but for the price I couldn't pass it up; a huge front to back two bedroom for $350. It's fully furnished, including two refrigerators and a washing machine, and includes cable TV. I'll have to pay the utilities separately, as is the case usually, and will have to put in the internet myself but am looking forward to having my own dedicated line instead of the free WiFi that usually comes with these types of places. The apartment was found by our new floor manager who went on Khmer24, called an agent listed in an ad and told her exactly what he was looking for. It was not one of the places listed, but something she found him based on his request. He ended up taking a place on the floor above mine. Like I said, not ideal but life hardly ever is. All in all, everyone involved is very happy.

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The room closed down a bit early yesterday so a few of us headed down to Naga to drink some beers and splash around a bit. I'm obviously a bit biased, but that was the worst lineup I'd ever seen there and fitting with every report I had received about the games there recently (Yazzx can back me up on this). We ended up opening a second table amongst ourselves and samcx who happened to be there. I won a bit and left early while the other lads joined the first table. I would have promoted for our room, but I basically knew everyone there already. I'll be the first one to admit that all the shenanigans with the dealers and staff there might be worth it if the lineup is really good, but don't see the point of playing there if the games are that tight. But I think the regs there prefer this game. They're not going to win much there, but they're certainly not going to lose much either.

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PT how much is utilities total roughly for everything? So for your $350 place is it like around $500 total or something?

You're right in that in that the service is laughable and the card changes every seemingly ten minutes are ridiiculous... ended up a decent crowd last night though.. there were 4-5 of us still going at about 8am. I think it's about time I came and gave RK a go, but my hatred for Omaha puts me off and I heard the NL game is dead by 5pm which is useless for me so it's not ideal for me.

The last few nights the games have been very tight as well, as you say I would say it's next to impossible to make a living at Naga alone.

Another one in here.

Looking to relocate to PP for some months from october as a start. Plan is to grind low/midstakes MTTs 35-45hrs/week ( off-peak hours obv) and possibly spend another 10-20hrs/week playing live cashgames. Most likely looking to move back to either europe or latinamerica in march/april latest order to be able to grind SCOOP without being in vampire mode.

Any MTTers there already? Anyone seeking for a flatmate? Any things that i need to consider? How bad are those 150$/month Guesthouse private rooms listed on booking.com ? Obv not planning to live the whole time in one of these but i actually considered booking one for first 2-4 weeks to have a base from where i can look for a better option. Are there any special things a 31 yrs old dude from germany who is not unfamilar with 2-3rd world lifestyle but no asia-experience has to consider?

The worst thing about the $150/month guesthouses is that they run without aircon if you can life with that you can find okayish rooms, would try at least 2 or 3 different guesthouses until you commit for a month because the quality of the rooms can change a lot from guesthouse to guesthouse

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