Whatever you do k2d, that $200 needs to go from your hands to the mamasan with someone making it clear to her she doesn't own the girl anymore. Not from you to the girl to the whovever.

Should just start a poker house and she can be the in house maid/cook/sexy fun time girl.

She doesn't own the girl anyway, she's just looking for a payday from an obvious noob.

Happens all the time in Thailand, noob tourist falls in love with a girl, gives bar owner 6,000-10,000 baht to free her from her life of bondage. After he goes home, girl goes back to the bar that she never had any intention of leaving.

I'm sure your situation is different though, K2D, and that girl has been waiting for a white knight in the form of an inexperienced, young, first time visitor to Cambodia to save her from slavery.

The truth is she can't leave that bar because she was likely sent their by her parents to work and send money back home. And she's not going to leave unless she gets ongoing maintenance payments from you.

i dont love her, i dont want to make her my girlfriend or wife, my plan involves me not giving her the money until ive already got a weeks worth of sex from her, and once she has the money the only thing i want different is to pay $20 instead of $25 and for her to be able to keep all the money instead of the mamasan getting half

as ive said i would bet that she ends up back with the mamasan at some point if this ever does happen

good read though, as usual you are just spot on


sofocused - you tryin to get me killed? if she even agrees i will give her the money and she can do with it as she pleases, i will be happy in knowing that i at least gave her a chance to get out of the situation, if she doesnt want to take the chance thats on her

but no way am i getting involved with mamasan, talking to the mamasan, going anywhere near the mamasan

More than enuff

Most pimps protect their assets (the girls,) hard K2D. If you try to get in the way of their profits, even if you think you are doing it without the pimp knowing, you probably aren't.

K2D, I know you don't give a f uck, but REALLY you do, you don't want to die obviously. Perhaps you haven't figured this out yet, but you have absolutely NO rights in these third world countries, if somebody with any kind of connections wants you hurt or even dead, they can make that happen and chances are they won't even get in any legal trouble over it.

K2D, I know you don't like to listen to pokerspiv, you think he's just trolling you. Sure he can be a bit d ickish to you sometimes, but when he calls you a noob for your reaction to this situation, he's 100% spot on.

I'm going to say two things to you.

1. You DON'T have the bankroll to be doing these kinds of charitable acts.

2. Even if you did, you can't save them all, you won't save even a few percent of them. Not to mention, even if you do give her the money there is a good chance it won't help her long term.


I thought you trying to play with a Cobra, when you don't REALLY have any idea how to do it (no watching TV shows on it doesn't count, if it did we'd all be experts,) was a pretty stupid and dangerous idea, but this is just outright ******ed. Please don't get into trying to help hookers escape hooking. If you do, it's only going to end badly for you and the hooker, Mamasan and all the other pimps like her are still going to be ok.

Unless you go Taxi Driver on their asses... and honestly that would probably be a better way to go about doing it, if you were so determined to, at least then you have a fighting chance. The way you are talking, your just going to get a knife in the back, or a noose around your neck quickly and quietly some night in the dark, and dumped somewhere unmarked where nobody is going to find you, and no Cambodians are going to care.

oh and btw, please don't read the above paragraph as a suggestion to actually go Taxi driver on their asses, I really don't suggest that either.

Lol, this is not exactly the middle ages or an american metropolis.

Buddy have you actually lived in these South East Asian countries?

Yes, I know it feels like we have a ton of power there as white foreigners, but it isn't our power, it's the power of our money. But if you think they police and people with connections there aren't able to do ANYTHING they want to do to you IF they want to do it, your are sorely mistaken.

ITT you have to see the difference in your post and spivs, yours is saying you might die, his is LOL at you thinking she is gonna fall in love with you when in reality she is just going to rob you of $200, his isnt advice, its slammin on me (even though i dont even think he read what i wrote because if he did no way he could come to that conclusion)

o ya and just want to point out she never asked me for $200, or openly brought up that she wanted to get away from mamasan and owed her money, the only reason i know this is cuz i asked her why she has mamasan and doesnt just work on the beach like most girls here and she said cuz she had to borrow money

you make very good points as usual ITT (even if i disagree on the cobra aspect) there basically no cops around here, anyone could get away with anything, making enemies would not be smart

so i guess i could just tell shack girl to tell mamasan she saved up her money and not that i gave it to her, i could trust shack girl right?


sigh, you have me rethinking this now, my instant reaction is that i guess i might put this off till i leave here (if i ever do) and that way i couldnt get retaliated against

just a point of clarification it certainly isnt charity, she would have to trust me and do our normal thing unpaid for awhile and get the $200 all at once at the end

im trying to come up with some silly joke about "if this were charity many more guys........" but im playing many tables so give up

fwiw ITT wabby lives here, i have met him, he got me the money on moneybookers, every single thing he has said about the place has turned out to be true and we have had many discussions in emails, if there is an expert in the cambo thread my vote would be for him


i take that back, he said the deserts at new sea view villa (the very good restaurant right next to my hotel he told me about) were excellent, gotta admit i didnt like the one i got (chocolate coconut cake, wasnt really a cake more a chocolate graham cracker crust with some coconutty stuff on top)

but ive only tried the one so not a good enough sample size to judge

Uhm, yes I have. Several of them

And sure, if someone is determined to get anyone of us dead, it will happen. That pretty much goes for the rest of the world too, right?

But it's not going to happen just because he decided to pay a girl 200 dollars for weeks company.

I agree, nor is it likely she gives up working at the bar she's at. The most likely result is the girl buys a new cell phone or a few extra bags of meth, and when K2D stops paying her she moves onto the next sucker.

Before you try and save the hooker from her pimp can you buy a digicam?

You forgot the part where he then hounds her for breaking their deal so she gets her boyfriend and some of his friends to beat him up.

Nah dude I guess I didn't know what a big deal a mamasan is.

walking up to mamasan and handing her $200 to take her girl from her could get me killed, or a very severe beat down that would lose my money and keep the girl in place

me giving shack girl $200 (for her services) and her paying back mamasan what she owes and trying to go independent has a very low chance of coming back on me imo, i guess its possible, and ITT has scared me enough that im gonna put the plan on hold for a bit, not really sure i wanna risk my life to help out shack girl, she is nice and all and i may do it in the future, but at the moment ITT is in my head



so remember the girl from the other night where i said i had seen her on the beach a lot and then finally approached and she ended up being the sister of two of the people that work at my hotel? well i have effectively turned her into my mamasan, after the ladyboy close call last week and the runner last night i talked to this girl tonight and since she is always down there she knows all the girls and is gonna steer me in the direction of some good ones, very happy with her first selection tonight

but...... i was rejected tonight, the first rejection in asia, i had seen this girl dancing the other night, she is friends with my mamasan and i was like so whats her name, we all go sit at a table as they eat, the girl speaks like no english and wasnt feelin me at all, i now want her 10 times more and must try everytime i go to the beach tell she breaks down

now boring poker story, $5 mass field rebuy on stars, didnt even realize i was this deep in the damn thing but guess i was down to final 2 tables, 200k stacks 5k-10k guy opens to 22k i 3bet to 50k with QQ, flop K94 two spades i check he checks turn 5 i bet he puts me all in, i had over half my stack in if fold would be left with M of like 3 so i went with it....... dude had KQo, great call pre sir

damn that $2100 for first woulda been nice, and the ensuing 3some wouldnt have been to shabby either

o wells played maybe 10-15 of the mass field rebuys on stars and already made 2 deep runs, the shippage is on its way

lol this is by far my favourite thread now keep the stories coming =))

and srsly guys stop complaining that he should start his own blog. this thread was so boring before k2d started delivering. =)

I agree kick2dante brings the hits and his stories are entertaining. No need for all the hate on the guy at least he having a good go at his plan.

He made it to se asia and is now trying to make it as an online pro. Everyone has to start somewhere lets hope he makes it.

Good luck to you dante and keep the stories coming.

"damn that $2100 for first woulda been nice, and the ensuing 3some wouldnt have been to shabby either"

I like how the first place celebration party was so thoroughly planned...Get it next time...

ye i agree i am getting into ur blog d2k but some pics are really needed

btw....dont let IT666 worry u about gettin killed or w/e . load of bollocks. mamasans might try and talk it up but there is no danger a farrang is gonna get murdered over a bar slut for a cpl of hundred bucks

save em all k2d

he should buy out shack girl and become her pimp. probably pay better than poker.

someone in the thailand thread mentioned u can make money from blogging, tis true? how much are we talking? how many "followers" would you need to start to get some money coming in? anyone with any experience with this can you send me a pm, obv in my situation even a lil extra cash coming in would be quite helpful

ezyano you should see the 2 girls i have lined up for my celebratory night if i ever get back to PI..... the 2 hottest girls i saw in my week there, i think both are 10's, have one of their numbers and she is friends with the other..... gotta have some motivation

only prob is she is the one from my last night there and i had some issues and well she didnt enjoy her time to much so not sure she will want to see again, but im not to proud to beg

fwiw any win over 1k a 3some is encouraged, any win over 2k a 3some is mandatory

woke up with headache today, thats about as soul crushing of a way to wake up as you can have, i have enough advil migraines for 24 more headaches, then a small bottle of excedrin migraine, after that im not sure what i will do


so i just did something stupid, the super cute girl that works at my hotel that ive mentioned before who i said might be to young so i dont want to talk to her much was sleeping behind the bar (in the middle of the day) and when i walked by she woke up and jumped up like she wasnt

anyways i was curios as to how a girl who might be to young could serve drinks, so i ask what the legal drinking age is here and she says she doesnt think there is one, im like so a 12 year old could buy a drink and she says yes.... hmm that ruins my follow up question of "well dont you have to be atleast 18 to serve drinks then" or fill in the blank for whatever age she said, so i decide ill just ask her how old she is, shes 20, not good, i am now madly in love

she isnt the hottest, more cute than hot, but her personality is great and her voice and..... not good, never had a boyfriend, never goes out partying, works every day (literally) then goes to school after work and then home with family by 7, the standard for most good girls over here

definitely sounds like one of the ones that would take a year of courting and then ask family for permission to marry, all the stuff i dont wanna do

i really think its mostly her voice

not good

Yes, but its not as easy as posting long winded posts on 2p2. Generally when people talk about making money from blogs they arent talking about personal blogs, although there are some reasonably successful travel blogs. Generally, your eventual goal is to sell your website for a ****load of money, which is damn near impossible if the blog is just your life story or talking about random girls you are playing with on your travels around the world.

You can make decent cash, but it takes a lot of brains and the amount of time you need to invest shouldnt be underestimated. Good web skills and sick SEO skills are needed to be really successful, and if you dont have those allready you need to either spend a lot of time learning or spend a lot of money to get someone else to do it for you.

i dont have a clue what SEO means, but i am just an all around skilled individual so i dont see why i wouldnt be good at that also


sigh already giving up on poker for the day after only registering in a few tiny buy in tourneys

trying to grind with a headache is sooooooooo negative ev

will likely bust out of these last few in the next hour and then have nothing to do for 9 hours, hmmmmm i wonder what i will end up doing

wasnt planning on going out tonight, but its far wiser to spend $25 on some shenanigans than to put $200+ on the table that i am very likely to lose

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