not serious

The only thing PE has ever been serious about is saving one baht tokens from 7-11.

so let me get in before him.........


this is how it went, any time i asked DJLE anything about the stake he really gave no answer, he wanted 50% of profits but then thought that wasnt enough, i said id give him insured money if he helped me get through to clearing a bonus and he said "do what you think is fair"

i tried to get him to make some definitive statements and not get a contract necessarily but have us each know exactly what the other wanted and he would never say anything other than "do what you think is fair"

i ask him for tips on hypers because thats what he plays and now im on his money and his response is "the only tip i can give you is nothing is really wrong unless it is"


this is before he hits send of the $500..........


so he tells me we can do it and i wake up the next morning and he says nevermind, i start my session tilted thinking i just had a great opportunity ripped from me and lose $150 my first hour, im talking to him on PM and he requests a skype chat and wants me to tell him a feel good story so i tell him how i got shack girl out of the shack

here is a brief snippet of our convo:




so eventually he agrees to ship and i play and lose $80 the first day and he gets $40ish in rakeback insured


i wake up the next morning with pm's saying he wants to cancel..... again life tilt as how can u cancel down $40? i tell him he obviously doesnt get the insured money because he didnt do anything to help me clear the deposit and freak out telling him how im not scamming him, i go to stars to transfer and get another PM and he says just kidding i was testing you........... oh ya i lost another $100+ in this life tilting hour, i dont think my play was affected but who knows


so another up down rollercoaster of a day and after 2 days we are down like 300 with 85 insured


the next day have my customary bad start am down to 150 i pm him and send him a pm saying i may need to get some more, he reads this as "ive lost all 500 and need money now" and in the next hour i go on a heater and shoot back up to 400 come back and he is once again saying he wants out and send him whatever money i have left, i tehn say hold on i just went on a heater and am at 400 and he says nevermind


i end the day at 300 with 135 insured so he is down $65 (if he is helping me clear the bonus which will take weeks)


so now we exchange some emails and i tell him how we really need to get on the same page on everything, and ask him what happens if i run out of his money one day am i playing on my money or his

he has been requesting hand histories but they arent working, i dont know why, i even download pokertracker and do an auto import and it says ive played 42 sngs, i sent PE my entire hand history for betsafe and it was full of errors and said my vpip was 92% (PE could confirm but instead he will try and be clever and witty or stir up more **** as usual)


so in less than a day i try to upload on google docs for him (first time i ever do it i didnt know i had to change the link to let everyone view and he gets mad over that even! but i changed it, im sure it wont work though) but that wasnt fast enough

then i email them and there response is they can send me a hand history within 72 hours (lol stars takes 72 minutes)



so he blows up for some reason with an email full of f bombs, i say ok ill send you back your money but helping me clear less than 10% of the money isnt enough for the insured, so he gets his 300 back and says if i dont send the 135 insured he is gonna come here and out me



ive made no lies in this post, everything ive said he could confirm as true unless he wants to lie, he basically put me on a 3 day emotional rollercoaster ride when im already pretty life tilted and quit when down what could have been $65


the moment he clicked send initially he regretted it and i instantly became the villain to him, before he sent he didnt care but once he did what he had just done hit him and everything i said to him was read through the eyes of someone that is sure they are getting scammed


even when i tell him about sharkscope being off $200 in my favor he replies with: you are just trying to set me up with something bigger later


ive already told him if we continue the $130 is still insured but he has to actually do it this time not just play games


he is saying i am scamming him.......... i dont think i am

Go for it Djle. See it through imho.

lol quality

fwiw only hands on BLAZE poker which is a cash game just like rush/zoom, they only record hands won and not lost. I cannot confirm about the SNGs hands.

So he is right about the site not being able to see HH correctly for BLAZE cash games only. I have had them work fine for normal tables. I have no played SNGs so I dont know how they are tracked

PS: Is that "convo" supposed to be in English?

i sent you my entire betsafe hand history which should have included 1000 sngs and lots of regular cash game hands as well

didnt read but lol, but just quoting it I can spot 2 things at the bottome that are so wrong and out of context.

Ill read and respond at another time.

Maybe you should read it and reply?

this has been how he has been basically the entire time never says anything of substance except give me my money back or give me my f'ing money back you scammer


i wanted to get things completely worked out so we were both on the same page the entire time but im not sure he even read any pm's i sent him he was just "ya sure whatever lets do it: SEND"

"oh **** what did i just do?"

I for one am totally shocked that this ended badly.

fine ill read it and well do this right now.

at some point you might want to try and get some new material

omg what's the clown done now. Better read this and give my valuable opinion.

1.probably drunked djle sent to k2d 500$
2.immediately distracted him few times requesting money back and recall it is only joke
3.tilted dante lost money in short time
4.djle want definitely money back

I am happy there.

so let me get in before him.........


this is how it went, any time i asked DJLE anything about the stake he really gave no answer, he wanted 50% of profits but then thought that wasnt enough, i said id give him insured money if he helped me get through to clearing a bonus and he said "do what you think is fair"

Half true as hes cherry picking what happened. Hes right, I didnt care about the terms. I never said said I wanted 50% either. I stated to him that the terms he is mentioning is unfair and a staker wouldnt agree to this for a dante player. I did say' do what you think is fair' as I didnt care what happened to the 500 and counted as lost if it was shipped. This was all pre shipping.

i tried to get him to make some definitive statements and not get a contract necessarily but have us each know exactly what the other wanted and he would never say anything other than "do what you think is fair"

true than he said he would do rackback 50% insurance if he loses. I didnt say anything, it was all his idea. Im like cool.

i ask him for tips on hypers because thats what he plays and now im on his money and his response is "the only tip i can give you is nothing is really wrong unless it is"

If your ganna to pretend to quote me, least cut and paste what I actually said. Im not going to look for the pm of what I said as there were so many, which is the reason why I wanted convos to be on messenger btw. The jist of my reply is that nothing you do is really wrong [in hypers]unless its an obvious mistake.

this is before he hits send of the $500..........



so he tells me we can do it and i wake up the next morning and he says nevermind, i start my session tilted thinking i just had a great opportunity ripped from me and lose $150 my first hour, im talking to him on PM and he requests a skype chat and wants me to tell him a feel good story so i tell him how i got shack girl out of the shack

here is a brief snippet of our convo:




so eventually he agrees to ship and i play and lose $80 the first day and he gets $40ish in rakeback insured


i wake up the next morning with pm's saying he wants to cancel..... again life tilt as how can u cancel down $40? i tell him he obviously doesnt get the insured money because he didnt do anything to help me clear the deposit and freak out telling him how im not scamming him, i go to stars to transfer and get another PM and he says just kidding i was testing you........... oh ya i lost another $100+ in this life tilting hour, i dont think my play was affected but who knows

I did this as I rather know Im being ripped off straight forward by him not returning the money than him trying to be sneaky in other ways. He never sent which is what I wanted to know for sure even though we were goign to continue but he was spasming so much i had to stop the 'test' as he prob would have had an aneurism. This was the first time he mentioned the i dont get rack back if i dont help him clear the bonus. I said I dont agree to that and that if he doesnt agree with me to send me back what ever is left over of my stake [ aprox 400] and we can end it here. He chooses to not send and keep playing

so another up down rollercoaster of a day and after 2 days we are down like 300 with 85 insured


the next day have my customary bad start am down to 150 i pm him and send him a pm saying i may need to get some more, he reads this as "ive lost all 500 and need money now" and in the next hour i go on a heater and shoot back up to 400 come back and he is once again saying he wants out and send him whatever money i have left, i tehn say hold on i just went on a heater and am at 400 and he says nevermind

he said he is down and may need more money. The words he uses implied he was down like around 450 from my calculations. At this point I was under the assumption he was down 450 with about 200 games a day at $5 games. He was going down to fast and Im thinking hes an obvious loser so I choose to cut losses and get back what ever it may be. He says he was down to 150 at the low and he is playing $5, $12 and $22 or something. Im like oh, than that acceptable rate lost to me. At this point Im still waiting for reports but ill explain that at the end with my summary

i end the day at 300 with 135 insured so he is down $65 (if he is helping me clear the bonus which will take weeks)

His warped mind thinks thats the terms which it isnt, hes adding this in his report making it sound like thats what we agreed on

so now we exchange some emails and i tell him how we really need to get on the same page on everything, and ask him what happens if i run out of his money one day am i playing on my money or his

he has been requesting hand histories but they arent working, i dont know why, i even download pokertracker and do an auto import and it says ive played 42 sngs, i sent PE my entire hand history for betsafe and it was full of errors and said my vpip was 92% (PE could confirm but instead he will try and be clever and witty or stir up more **** as usual)


so in less than a day i try to upload on google docs for him (first time i ever do it i didnt know i had to change the link to let everyone view and he gets mad over that even! but i changed it, im sure it wont work though) but that wasnt fast enough

then i email them and there response is they can send me a hand history within 72 hours (lol stars takes 72 minutes)



so he blows up for some reason with an email full of f bombs, i say ok ill send you back your money but helping me clear less than 10% of the money isnt enough for the insured, so he gets his 300 back and says if i dont send the 135 insured he is gonna come here and out me

I get eventually mad due to his incompetence. he is again trying to make half truths and jumping with events with what suits his story trying to make it sound like Im threating him by outing him. Im very care free about all this. I saw the money as lost already when it was sent. All i said is ill make a report of what I believe what happened.

ive made no lies in this post, everything ive said he could confirm as true unless he wants to lie, he basically put me on a 3 day emotional rollercoaster ride when im already pretty life tilted and quit when down what could have been $65


the moment he clicked send initially he regretted it and i instantly became the villain to him, before he sent he didnt care but once he did what he had just done hit him and everything i said to him was read through the eyes of someone that is sure they are getting scammed

I told him many times I think hes honest and i believe its prob not a scam

even when i tell him about sharkscope being off $200 in my favor he replies with: you are just trying to set me up with something bigger later

Undetected sarcasm. I do feel like the way he writes his reports, he is trying to pretend to quote me again and insinuate things about me. I said this sarcastically with a something like I know how these big scams work. Keep in mind I told him I believe its not a scam. Bad joke on my part in hindsight

ive already told him if we continue the $130 is still insured but he has to actually do it this time not just play games

I still dont agree to his no rackback if I dont continue thinking and say we have nothing to talk about if he doesnt send the rackback money. With letting him know I dont think its a scam and if he returns the rack back money we can keep talking so he can figure his **** out.


he is saying i am scamming him.......... i dont think i am

so false and I let him know multiple times i dont believe its a scam and I will just post my side of what happened to explain why I think his thinking is wrong.

My summary of what happened

Im being care free which is the only thing I thing Dante portrayed correctly in his report with out cherry picking. I was very do what ever u think was fair for the 500 stake. Thats when added the rackback.

It was only after he thought I was backing out with the 'test' that he added the only if I continue to which I insta said if that the case, send me back my remainder monies and we can part ways. He doesnt send.


Stake lasted over 3 days of playing. During that time he did not send one request I made. No basic report on each day of how many games played, win/lost and rackback cleared except for 2 days and 1 was wrong. No hand/tournament histories till after I refused to talk further untill he returned whats left of my money. He sent it on google docs which he didnt grant permission. prob the most funny part of all this was he wasnt able to make a yahoo account so we can message on messenger on my request.

So after the forth day, I didnt want to deal with his incompetence any more.


Due to Dantes unique style of thinking he believes he doesnt have to fullfill his insurance side since I cancled early; which was due to him not being able to provide me one request after 4 days.

Tdlr - I am being carefree of the staking and just being nice and dont care I lose 500. Dante states he'll give me 50% rakeback if he is not profitable. I shipp. I test him saying I want to stop the stake to see if its a scam. First time he introduced the I dont get rackback if I stop. I dont agree and tell him to shipp me my 400 if thats the case and we can part ways. We keep continuing. I have requested hand/tournament histories. I have requested basic daily reports. I have requested him get on a messenger. after it blew up, he still couldnt send me HH on google docs. Not one thing he was able to do. I call a stop and end it till he gets his act togther. He shipps me back what was left over of the stake and nothing of the rackback.

hmmm where to start?


first off it wasnt 4 days it was 2.75, the first day you already had put me on life tilt by backing out and i lost $150 of my own money before playing on yours

day 1 on yours i lose $60ish
day 2 i lose $230ish
day 3 win $90

to come to the $200 loss total

im not sure where the 4th day comes from but it never happened



every single day i sent him reports of how the day went with what the bottom line numbers were, i didnt include game totals because i would have to manually count and when multitabling hypers thats just not gonna happen

i was in talks with there support on how to get correct hand histories and gameplay data but he pulls the deal before they respond




This was the first time he mentioned the i dont get rack back if i dont help him clear the bonus. I said I dont agree to that and that if he doesnt agree with me to send me back what ever is left over of my stake [ aprox 400] and we can end it here. He chooses to not send and keep playing


this is completely made up on both accounts, you just skimmed the first pm's i sent you since you "didnt care" because i had mentioned insured rakeback before and said its if you make an effort to help me clear the bonus

you also never said "i get hte insured no matter what or send back now"


because unlike you i read everything you said and we would have had a discussion about that if i read it so we could be on the same page.........


you fully admit you didnt care and had a whatever attitude


I WANTED THIS TO WORK VERY BADLY AND WAS WILLING TO DO WHATEVER TO MAKE IT WORK

as i told you before you are the only person who has actually lived up to their words and actually made even a half attempt at staking me so i didnt want to burn the one bridge i had, all along i tried to get you to make some definitive statements to avoid a situation like this, not just me "doing what i think is fair"

well the most definitive i got from you was "do what you think is fair" and quitting at a stake when down $65 is not making any sort of effort at it


going to a pool to swim but sticking a toe in and saying "its cold" isnt taking a swim



and fwiw i didnt want to do this "in public" but you said you were gonna come here and make your report and i feel its best to share my side first because if you come here and say im scamming you everyone is gonna believe you, but your complete admittance of having a whatever attitude the whole time goes a long way to confirm what im saying

I dont even care about being down 200 other than to post that he returned me 300 and not returned the rackback portion. I just want to post what happened and make it known I dont believe Dante was scamming and that I believe I should get the rackback portion and why. You all can make your own conclusions.

I dont believe Dante is a scammer and its his crazy thinking that he believes he doesnt owe me the rackback portion. I think thats a very fair assessment of the events.

LOL. This is an awesome new level of unprofessional and pathetic. All around dopiness by both sides. wp guys

Just walk away from the whole thing and never stake or be staked again...

I was being very w/e attitude but u made the terms.

I wasnt even ganna say much. I just feel like i should make a post and you make a pre-emptive stike saying this and that. My report was basically ganna say, our agreement ended early, I got back some monies and I believe your not a scammer. We had a difference in opinion and I do feel like I was cheated but it only happened because you think differently.

But after you made the post, how could i not respond.


My last email to u was I dont hate u after u asking me and we can even continue but I need you to shipp the remainder. If not, we have nothing to talk about. I dont even care about the 145 or w/e. i just believe its mine and if i dont get it i believe Im being cheated but dont hate u because I really do believe u think you're right. We just cant continue though. I have no ill thoughts of you and will still continue love reading your crazy post if you make them.

i'm lost for words

Not sure what the hell you expected?!?!

lol it was always going to happen.