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09-19-2018 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
everyone that works 9-5 in the west has no money. we spend every last cent.
Have you tried working 6am to 8pm?
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09-19-2018 , 03:40 AM
Saw this bit on Facebook about the police in Sihanoukville being paid to graffiti businesses that won't leave beach road to make way for further development. Things have become worse in Sihanoukville very quickly and there is constant chatter about it in the various Facebook groups from the few remaining expats. The roads are nearly impossible to drive on and more and more police are being sent to deal with the Chinese issue. Poker took a complete nose dive as well. When we first opened our room there were 14 rooms in town. When we left there were only two or three that could say they had a consistent game. I loved living there three years ago when 4_chainz had his bar and we along with Az (Yazzx's brother) would play poker and hang out every night. I had no illusions about it being the same this time around, but I honestly didn't think the state of the town would descend this fast. I knew the room was a huge risk, but I honestly didn't see all this happening.

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09-19-2018 , 12:42 PM
I know this has been asked before, but currently what are the suitable internet options for grinding in PP? Just a phone or connection or landline is okay? Need both? Best suppliers/plan for grinding & youtube? How often are power outages? How long do they last?

- Thanks.
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09-19-2018 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cambo bound
I know this has been asked before, but currently what are the suitable internet options for grinding in PP? Just a phone or connection or landline is okay? Need both? Best suppliers/plan for grinding & youtube? How often are power outages? How long do they last?

- Thanks.
The two best options are most likely Opennet and Metfone. The latter also has a phone service but generally aren't good for that as they are not a popular network and it costs money here to call or text people across different networks. Getting back to internet, I had Opennet in a previous apartment and had no issue with them. But we also used them at the old Riverking and we had many issues there. It really depends on where you live and how good the service will be there. I've known some to swear by Metfone and they were good when we used them at Riverking.

All the companies will charge you for the modem, router and installation unless you sign up for multiple months at a time. The problem with this is that you just don't know how good the service will be at your place until they hook it up. I think I paid ten months in advance for around $160 for 20 Mbps down but I'm not sure.

The place I live in now has free WiFi but it sucks. Data here is really cheap so I just use that for all my internet in the house. Most phones here are dual SIM so you can use two if you like. The two main companies are Smart and Cellcard. The former is the more established company but I personally prefer Cellcard. I consistently get faster speeds on it and it gets better coverage at the Riverside where all the bars are. But the reception for Cellcard is a bit dodgy inside Nagaworld.

Be warned that if you get a SIM at the airport they will no doubt stick you with a traveler's SIM which is very limited in the types of services it can receive. Wait until you get into the city and go to a proper Smart or Cellcard store and get a SIM and a plan there. For Smart their package is called Power Plus 8 I believe and it's $8 for 40 GB of data monthly plus unlimited calls/texts within the network. For Cellcard their plan is called Big Love and it's also $8 but for 80 GB of data.

I don't even bother with WiFi when I grind online. I just do a USB tether to my phone and that works perfectly. Even if you get a home WiFi plan, using your phone's data is a great backup for power outages, which do not happen all that much in Phnom Penh. It happens all the time in Sihanoukville by the way. I have a phone with a broken screen that I don't use anymore. So I stuck a Cellcard SIM in there and use it as a WiFi hub in the house. Hope this helps.

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09-19-2018 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lol69
everyone that works 9-5 in the west has no money. we spend every last cent.
So are you waiting to just work till 65 to retire and live this miserable life you are trapped in or have you thought of taking action and creating a life worth living?
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09-19-2018 , 04:23 PM
Just make sure to have 2 connections and 1 of them has to be mobile in case of a power outage

I'd personally just use 2 mobile connections rather than setting up my own landline

I've only used the Smart plan Triad mentioned and had no problems with it in Sihanoukville, but it was a bit spotty in the exact spot in Phnom Penh I was staying at 6 months ago. I've had no problems with it since moving across town though.
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09-19-2018 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by poker_triad
The two best options are most likely Opennet and Metfone. The latter also has a phone service but generally aren't good for that as they are not a popular network and it costs money here to call or text people across different networks. Getting back to internet, I had Opennet in a previous apartment and had no issue with them. But we also used them at the old Riverking and we had many issues there. It really depends on where you live and how good the service will be there. I've known some to swear by Metfone and they were good when we used them at Riverking.

All the companies will charge you for the modem, router and installation unless you sign up for multiple months at a time. The problem with this is that you just don't know how good the service will be at your place until they hook it up. I think I paid ten months in advance for around $160 for 20 Mbps down but I'm not sure.

The place I live in now has free WiFi but it sucks. Data here is really cheap so I just use that for all my internet in the house. Most phones here are dual SIM so you can use two if you like. The two main companies are Smart and Cellcard. The former is the more established company but I personally prefer Cellcard. I consistently get faster speeds on it and it gets better coverage at the Riverside where all the bars are. But the reception for Cellcard is a bit dodgy inside Nagaworld.

Be warned that if you get a SIM at the airport they will no doubt stick you with a traveler's SIM which is very limited in the types of services it can receive. Wait until you get into the city and go to a proper Smart or Cellcard store and get a SIM and a plan there. For Smart their package is called Power Plus 8 I believe and it's $8 for 40 GB of data monthly plus unlimited calls/texts within the network. For Cellcard their plan is called Big Love and it's also $8 but for 80 GB of data.

I don't even bother with WiFi when I grind online. I just do a USB tether to my phone and that works perfectly. Even if you get a home WiFi plan, using your phone's data is a great backup for power outages, which do not happen all that much in Phnom Penh. It happens all the time in Sihanoukville by the way. I have a phone with a broken screen that I don't use anymore. So I stuck a Cellcard SIM in there and use it as a WiFi hub in the house. Hope this helps.

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Thank you so much for your in-depth response! Very Helpful. Dual sim sounds ideal.

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09-19-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by valuecutting
Just make sure to have 2 connections and 1 of them has to be mobile in case of a power outage

I'd personally just use 2 mobile connections rather than setting up my own landline

I've only used the Smart plan Triad mentioned and had no problems with it in Sihanoukville, but it was a bit spotty in the exact spot in Phnom Penh I was staying at 6 months ago. I've had no problems with it since moving across town though.
2 mobile connections sounds simple and low-cost (nice to avoid installation fuss), and as the data is so cheap I guess also okay for watching youtube and downloading movies.

-Thanks.

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09-20-2018 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BoboFettFanBoy
So are you waiting to just work till 65 to retire and live this miserable life you are trapped in or have you thought of taking action and creating a life worth living?
i take multiple trips per year. anywhere from 4-6 weeks in total. sometimes more.

best of both worlds.
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09-20-2018 , 07:12 AM
So to setup the WiFi I hub I previously mentioned for my house I am using my Cellcard SIM, which means that I'm using only Smart in my phone. I've been timing out all day in different locations and is making playing impossible. Smart has become progressively worse and when I did a speed test I got the results below. Now I have to go home in the middle of rush hour and get my Cellcard phone. I can't tell if this is a first world or third world problem.

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09-20-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lol69
i take multiple trips per year. anywhere from 4-6 weeks in total. sometimes more.

best of both worlds.
So u have no money at all but invest in your sex-tourism trips 4 - 6 weeks a year? Its funny how much you loathe people like Dante, Jspill and others but yet strive to live their lives.
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09-20-2018 , 11:39 PM
i take multiple trips each year, put money away for the future, stay employed.

jspill seems like he might have a decent life (scratching a living with blogs or freelance writing is not for me though), but no-one wants to live like dante.

that's a one way ticket to suicide.
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09-21-2018 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
i take multiple trips each year, put money away for the future, stay employed.

jspill seems like he might have a decent life (scratching a living with blogs or freelance writing is not for me though), but no-one wants to live like dante.

that's a one way ticket to suicide.
Well, InfoShove just proved you wrong. He is Dante biggest fan.
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09-21-2018 , 05:24 AM
On the visa front, a local business owner friend of mine told me that he can get 6 month or 1 year business visa renewals processed without documentation. We're giving him my friend's passport tomorrow so I'll see how that concludes and update everyone here.
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09-21-2018 , 08:24 AM
You remind me a bit of Old Boy Yevato, a Korean American who is sticking around in Vietnam even though he seems to be struggling forever and a half already. He's even in Cambodia sometimes.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV3...LeulCqXK6PfQVw

I'm curious why you're avoiding the US? You seem smart and hard working enough that you could make a lot of money in many jobs from sales to poker room management.

I know the older you get the harder it gets to start over again though.
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09-21-2018 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by poker_triad
On the visa front, a local business owner friend of mine told me that he can get 6 month or 1 year business visa renewals processed without documentation. We're giving him my friend's passport tomorrow so I'll see how that concludes and update everyone here.
Awesome, keep us updated.
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09-21-2018 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LonelyBox
Well, InfoShove just proved you wrong. He is Dante biggest fan.
no doubt!

i'm not jealous of guys living in south-east asia or anything like that. it seems like i pay out on guys for no reason.

guys on a big expat package yes a little jealousy, but then again you can't be ever seen at particular venues in the company of particular women. you are never your own man.

south-east asia is full of western guys scratching a living. especially in the age of the digital nomad. not making particularly good livings. in lines of work with no real future.

guys like jspill or pooter seem to have their **** together. even then, is it really a income you can depend on for years to come.

then you have dante or infoshove.

i'll tell you how it ends with guys like that.

they hit 45 and kill themselves. sorry, but that's the truth. don't back yourself into a corner. don't put pussy on a pedestal. making a dependable living comes first. then worry about cheap pussy.
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09-21-2018 , 11:19 AM
not to be bummer, but i hope poker triad has options other than playing poker.

sihanoukville seems 100% hijacked by chinese and chinese casinos. i don't know if there's room for a korean guy that speaks good english. i think the poker ship has sailed.

you seem like a smart guy poker triad. i'm sure you'll find another avenue one way or another.

the trouble with the wife is probably as much about her worrying about her financial future more than anything. she's thinking there's nothing stopping you from hopping on a plane back to korea if everything goes bad. she's in survival mode. can't blame the mother of your child thinking that way though. they like stability.

good luck.
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09-21-2018 , 08:49 PM
@poker_triad

Couple of advices.

1) Playing 2 tables on Philipino Union won't make it no matter what. You need to be able to play way more tables. If you can get access get Indian clubs if not the Thai Unions. But if you think you will met end meet playing small Philipino Union (Sands Premier). No you won't. You need to be able to at least 4-6 table for 4-5h per day to make 4k $ ish I think and thats assuming you are close to my level and it is unlikely given you probably didn't work on your game for a couple of years.

2) Use Momo Emulator instead of the native exe client for pppoker on PC you should be able to play a lot more tables (native app is locked at 3 tables I think)

3) Buy 4k monitor and probably better PC prefrably desktop if you can still afford it.

4) Cut your daily expenses. I have no idea how much you were making before but it is clear you make a lot less now. Plan your budget like you had only 2k per month instead of 5-6k. Living at your previous standard while making a lot less is a reciepe for a disaster. Been there done that when I was much younger.


5) You are a likeable person and have big experience living in Cambodia. You should try to use your expertise to make money imo. There is a bunch of guys that help poker players here in Thailand help them prepare the stuff before they even arrive and charge hefty fees for that.
Bunch of guys myself included would pay like 1k $ or more to have someone to get me apartment,internet etc before I move.
In time you could make pretty hefty side income from it.
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09-21-2018 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lol69
i take multiple trips each year, put money away for the future, stay employed.

jspill seems like he might have a decent life (scratching a living with blogs or freelance writing is not for me though), but no-one wants to live like dante.

that's a one way ticket to suicide.
Fair enough, I was taking your post about no money literally.

Anyway, come-on, Dante's life is not that bad. He is a survivor and most likely will make it way past 45 never having to give in to the slow death grind of the cubicle.

What is it about him u loath so much?
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09-22-2018 , 04:32 AM
Hi all,

I'm currently in Vietnam travelling but will be crossing into Cambodia within a week or two, would anybody be able to answer a few questions for me about the live poker scene please? I doubt I'll bother with the hassle required to playing online as I'll be there < 1 month, I just fancy a relaxing week or two playing poker.

1) What games run and where? I've seen places in Sihanoukville advertise games on google as well as in PP, does anybody have experience with these games?

2) How safe is it to play there? I can't imagine walking out with large sums of cash is safe, do they have an option to keep on deposit and be paid online in any way?

3) Of the games that do run in Cambodia, are those in PP better than Sihanoukville? I might spend a week or so in each but obviously the beach in Sihanoukville is a big plus over PP.

4) Is there much of a poker community in Cambodia? Would be great to meet some fellow players rather than general backpackers as I have been so far in Asia.

Thanks all.
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09-22-2018 , 04:39 AM
It's becoming clear to me that I shouldn't post about my personal life in this thread anymore. Some of you have taken an honest thread about a fight with my wife and devolved it into leaving the country, suicide and god knows what else. For those of you with genuine concern I sincerely thank you, but I assure you I'm fine. If you'll read back I never claimed to be living off winnings alone in the PPPOKER club. This past week I made more as a partner of Renton's in my share of the club as I'm the only one in Phnom Penh taking care of the players here. And of course there's my own rakeback which I admit is larger than most given my role in the club. My wife and I just took a bigger place today because she had taken a smaller one when I went down to Sihanoukville.

KptBomba, thanks for all the suggestions. The emulator I was not aware of. I've already looked at some YouTube videos about it and will definitely check it out. The whole helping poker players thing for money idea is a good one but something I already did in my role as general manager at Riverking. They guys who run the private games now should really be handling all that stuff so I'm not sure if there's a need.

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09-22-2018 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
not to be bummer, but i hope poker triad has options other than playing poker.

sihanoukville seems 100% hijacked by chinese and chinese casinos. i don't know if there's room for a korean guy that speaks good english. i think the poker ship has sailed.

you seem like a smart guy poker triad. i'm sure you'll find another avenue one way or another.

the trouble with the wife is probably as much about her worrying about her financial future more than anything. she's thinking there's nothing stopping you from hopping on a plane back to korea if everything goes bad. she's in survival mode. can't blame the mother of your child thinking that way though. they like stability.

good luck.
A+ concern trolling

I'm sure you have a vivid portrait to present to us on what "another" would be.
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09-22-2018 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Hi all,

I'm currently in Vietnam travelling but will be crossing into Cambodia within a week or two, would anybody be able to answer a few questions for me about the live poker scene please? I doubt I'll bother with the hassle required to playing online as I'll be there < 1 month, I just fancy a relaxing week or two playing poker.

1) What games run and where? I've seen places in Sihanoukville advertise games on google as well as in PP, does anybody have experience with these games?

2) How safe is it to play there? I can't imagine walking out with large sums of cash is safe, do they have an option to keep on deposit and be paid online in any way?

3) Of the games that do run in Cambodia, are those in PP better than Sihanoukville? I might spend a week or so in each but obviously the beach in Sihanoukville is a big plus over PP.

4) Is there much of a poker community in Cambodia? Would be great to meet some fellow players rather than general backpackers as I have been so far in Asia.

Thanks all.
1) In Phnom Penh there are four main games. You of course have Nagaworld where they have a $1-$3, $2-$5 and a $5-$10 game that runs half the week. You have Riverking 1 that runs a $1-$3 hold'em game and a $1-$2-$4 Omaha game. They'll have a bigger game depending on who is in town. There's Poker Ace which has a daily $10-$20 hold'em game and finally the Red Fox. They have a $20 rebuy/addon tourney on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays. They'll usually have a $0.25 blinds dealers choice cash game after each event.

In Sihanoukville the Oriental Pearl runs an all day/night $1-$1 game with $1-$2 and bigger going if they can manage it. A few of my old dealers were working at the Golden Sands so they have a game as well although I'm not sure of the stakes. The Koreans run a $1-$1 game at the Golden Pearl and another Korean, Charley just closed his game down at the OC but I've heard he'll start it up again at Fortuna. That game will most likely be $2-$5. The Rainbow Room also runs a nightly $2-$5 game.

2) Both Riverking 1 and Poker Ace will allow you to keep money there. I'm not sure about the ability to pay you later online. Neither Naga nor any rooms in Sihanoukville have this option. All the rooms are safe although I would advise never taking a tuk tuk or a taxi coming out of Naga. Download the Passapp app, which is like an Uber type service, and always use that.

3) Sihanoukville is a bit chaotic so I would suggest Phnom Penh over it at this point. If you do go down to the beach, the sewage has done much to ruin much of the water so you want to get as far south as possible like Otres 2 or even 3.

4) There's a bigger community of poker players here than what most would initially think.



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09-22-2018 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KptBomba
@poker_triad

3) Buy 4k monitor and probably better PC prefrably desktop if you can still afford it.
May I ask what you use: 1 x 30 inch 4k?
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