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08-17-2018 , 03:53 AM
I was in the area recently and as of Monday last week it was still very much open and no signs of closing
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08-17-2018 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by glenmhor
Thanks Barney, I have a retirement visa for Cambodia as I live there. I was interested to learn about the poker in Sihanoukville but appears that there may not be the number of poker rooms there that were published about earlier. I found in PP the large amounts being waged each hand forced me to fold too often due to uneven buy ins
You know you don't need to wager more than your stack size right? Or am i misunderstanding.
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08-17-2018 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by valuecutting
You know you don't need to wager more than your stack size right? Or am i misunderstanding.
On the face of it, you are correct Mr Value.

My situation was caused by different players buying in for different amounts in PP.

In my experience all hands in a fair game are decided on luck, if the outcome is decided by the river card.

Therefore if an opponent goes all in with a greater stack than mine I must fold because I'm not a player who benefits much from getting lucky. This act causes me to lose.

However if all players buy in for the same amount, as happens in many countries/jurisdictions I can afford to call bets where the stack sizes are about even.

Lucky card players don't have to worry about all of this this because they can just call, call and call again irrespective of stack sizes.

But I do enjoy playing, and am profitable, where stack sizes are evenly balanced or in a tourney where the liabilities are known at the start.


I was wondering how it works at Sihanoukville? I am usually based at Kampot where, in both games that run there, we all buy in at the same amount
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08-18-2018 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by glenmhor
On the face of it, you are correct Mr Value.

My situation was caused by different players buying in for different amounts in PP.

In my experience all hands in a fair game are decided on luck, if the outcome is decided by the river card.

Therefore if an opponent goes all in with a greater stack than mine I must fold because I'm not a player who benefits much from getting lucky. This act causes me to lose.

However if all players buy in for the same amount, as happens in many countries/jurisdictions I can afford to call bets where the stack sizes are about even.

Lucky card players don't have to worry about all of this this because they can just call, call and call again irrespective of stack sizes.

But I do enjoy playing, and am profitable, where stack sizes are evenly balanced or in a tourney where the liabilities are known at the start.


I was wondering how it works at Sihanoukville? I am usually based at Kampot where, in both games that run there, we all buy in at the same amount
You play like this in Kampot? 1:20 in the vid

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08-18-2018 , 03:27 AM
the reception girl told me the housekeepers only make like $4 a day...is true?

I asked one of them today to go to kiwi mart and buy me some waters and soda, i gave her $10 for the drinks and told her she can have $2 for herself if she want to do it, and she said no she don't want to do it...lol was i being too cheap?

I used to do this stuff a lot in Thailand and the housekeepers loved to do small errands for a few dollars
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08-18-2018 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Info Shove
You play like this in Kampot? 1:20 in the vid

I understand we will adopt that style next year, can you wait?
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08-18-2018 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBananas
the reception girl told me the housekeepers only make like $4 a day...is true?

I asked one of them today to go to kiwi mart and buy me some waters and soda, i gave her $10 for the drinks and told her she can have $2 for herself if she want to do it, and she said no she don't want to do it...lol was i being too cheap?

I used to do this stuff a lot in Thailand and the housekeepers loved to do small errands for a few dollars
What a classy guy you are..
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08-18-2018 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mengenges92
What a classy guy you are..
? u mad bro?
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08-18-2018 , 05:25 AM
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What a classy guy you are..
Being offered half a days wages to go to the shop & back? Maybe slightly lazy on BB's part but seems a pretty decent gesture to me?

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Originally Posted by glenmhor
But I do enjoy playing, and am profitable, where stack sizes are evenly balanced or in a tourney where the liabilities are known at the start.
So did you ask about min/max buy-in's before you sat down if it's a problem for you? Nevertheless if some chinese fish (or other such player) was sat on a huge stack why would that be a problem? If he's blowing you off hands with bet sizes it should be pretty obviously you just wait for a good hand and $$$?
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08-18-2018 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by glenmhor
On the face of it, you are correct Mr Value.

My situation was caused by different players buying in for different amounts in PP.

In my experience all hands in a fair game are decided on luck, if the outcome is decided by the river card.

Therefore if an opponent goes all in with a greater stack than mine I must fold because I'm not a player who benefits much from getting lucky. This act causes me to lose.

However if all players buy in for the same amount, as happens in many countries/jurisdictions I can afford to call bets where the stack sizes are about even.

Lucky card players don't have to worry about all of this this because they can just call, call and call again irrespective of stack sizes.

But I do enjoy playing, and am profitable, where stack sizes are evenly balanced or in a tourney where the liabilities are known at the start.


I was wondering how it works at Sihanoukville? I am usually based at Kampot where, in both games that run there, we all buy in at the same amount
Troll or terrible at poker? Can't decide.
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08-18-2018 , 06:40 AM
Yeah no idea whats going on in that post
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08-18-2018 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FWWM
I was in the area recently and as of Monday last week it was still very much open and no signs of closing
I spoke with PT last night and it's closed, I'm sure he'll post his own thoughts on it in time. It's a shame, what does that leave in terms of Poker in Snooky now?
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08-18-2018 , 02:01 PM
I wonder how much of the slowness in Snooky is due to it being the rainy season there and summertime in China. I just kind of assumed the games would pick up again in October or whatever.
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08-18-2018 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by samcx
Being offered half a days wages to go to the shop & back? Maybe slightly lazy on BB's part but seems a pretty decent gesture to me?



So did you ask about min/max buy-in's before you sat down if it's a problem for you? Nevertheless if some chinese fish (or other such player) was sat on a huge stack why would that be a problem? If he's blowing you off hands with bet sizes it should be pretty obviously you just wait for a good hand and $$$?
I was trying to post to find out how poker is played in Sihanoukville but so far have not had any guidance. Your comment is correct " min max buy in" I made the mistake of using the wrong term " Buy in " to be told it was 100 usd to discover after other players joined later
they had stacks of 500/600. i have learnt that is not the case.
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08-18-2018 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by samcx
I spoke with PT last night and it's closed, I'm sure he'll post his own thoughts on it in time. It's a shame, what does that leave in terms of Poker in Snooky now?
That is a good question I've been trying to ask
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08-18-2018 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by samcx
Being offered half a days wages to go to the shop & back? Maybe slightly lazy on BB's part but seems a pretty decent gesture to me?



So did you ask about min/max buy-in's before you sat down if it's a problem for you? Nevertheless if some chinese fish (or other such player) was sat on a huge stack why would that be a problem? If he's blowing you off hands with bet sizes it should be pretty obviously you just wait for a good hand and $$$?
Sam it could be debated what is a good hand, say I have AA and the Chinese has 10 5 . the board comes Q 2 J 5 5. Which is the good hand? Some might argue the 10 5 is a good hand.

I realise that in USA ( where I have never played) there is a proper way to play certain hands, my experience of enjoying and making money at poker indicates that it is highly debatable whether there is a proper or uniform way to play hands against different nationalities. In my case I manage my situation according to stack sizes of the table and in that context everyone should start off about the same. But my question should be: what is happening at Sihanoukeville re poker games?
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08-19-2018 , 01:51 AM
If you have a stack of 100 it doesnt matter if your opponent has a stack of 100 or 10000

If your opponent has a stack of 100 it doesnt matter if you have a stack of 100 or 10000

Uneven stacks will play strategically the same as even stacks in a format with no icm. There is a very slight advantage multiway to having a smaller stack because you have fold equity in multiway pots even after being all in, but that's about it.
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08-19-2018 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by glenmhor
Sam it could be debated what is a good hand, say I have AA and the Chinese has 10 5 . the board comes Q 2 J 5 5. Which is the good hand? Some might argue the 10 5 is a good hand.
Well obviously.... that's poker. But you'll make money long term and a lot of it if guys like that are sat on huge stacks so there is absolutely no reason why you should be complaining about it.
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08-19-2018 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by samcx
Well obviously.... that's poker. But you'll make money long term and a lot of it if guys like that are sat on huge stacks so there is absolutely no reason why you should be complaining about it.
Think I've been very misunderstood. I was asking if there was poker in Sihanoukville and how it was played.

I'm a terrible poker player because I play to my stack size, not to my cards, I confess it is terrible poker but my strategy was mainly aimed at s&gs and mtts and the various adjustments during the different stages.. Official poker rankings had me in the top 4.5% every year from 2007 to 2012. Profitable but not by much. Their statistics back then showed that 95% of players lost money long term. I differ from most poker players in that I compute my losses alongside my winnings which gives a better picture of progress or non progress.

After I got to 250 tournaments in 1st place I lost interest in my results and drifted away from online poker.

But in brief my terrible strategy revolved around having a big enough stack to force opponents to fold pre river. It was well researched back then that in more than 50 % of cases the winning hole cards are folded before showdown and often pre flop. Therefore pre flop play was critical to my success along with a very tight table image.

I since found that the way I played can be successful in live poker, possibly more so, and can be transferred to cash game strategy.

On the one hand I would never complain but never in my 20 years playing would I criticise a fellow player or suggest any other way he should have played his hand differently because one man's meat is another man's poison

But the nagging question remains, Is there any Holdem or Omaha at Sihanoukville, if so where and how are the games played?
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08-19-2018 , 10:17 AM
There is a holdem game with $1 blinds at oriental pearl, the minimum buy in is $20 and the maximum is $100,they also have a $10 sng every day at 1pm with $100 guaranteed price pool, think that's probably what you are looking for

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08-19-2018 , 01:16 PM
You should also tell how much the rake is. I guess it's hardly beatable because the table rents (the casino itself is not running poker) are usually pretty high.

Glen: as a mtt player you probably know about the difference between chip ev and $ ev. In CG there is no difference and that's why only the effective stacksize matters.
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08-19-2018 , 02:09 PM
For various reasons not including player pool it seems like live poker is -ev (overall context not just money) in SE Asia.

I will never complain about the setups at Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun (home houses) again after I played in SE Asia.

And Cambodia sounds like the nut low of live poker. (having never played there however)

I have played in the Philippines and have to assume it's the same. Very profitable but the smoke, grubby managers with hands in prize pools and collusion etc. barely made up for by the profit.

Following Triad and all his movements its just crazy because where do you go now? You are defunct in PNH and in Snooky. I just hope he gets something going again because I did appreciate the journey.

Good Luck Triad!

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08-19-2018 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pronto
There is a holdem game with $1 blinds at oriental pearl, the minimum buy in is $20 and the maximum is $100,they also have a $10 sng every day at 1pm with $100 guaranteed price pool, think that's probably what you are looking for

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Thanks Pronto, I'll keep your info in mind, do you play at Oriental Pearl, I ask in the context is the table run fairly?
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08-20-2018 , 02:46 AM
I play at oriental, but on tables from a different group.. Game should be fair but if you have a tone of Chinese at the table expect it to be more messy/ chaotic..

If they don't change the rake it's 5% cap at $5 for 1/1 holdem and $10 cap for 1/2 holdem

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08-20-2018 , 02:57 AM
That is useful info, Pronto, I'm in Thailand and returning to my base at Kampot next month and might come over for a look at some stage. What is meant by " different group"? Do you mean different buy in?
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