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Old 09-11-2017, 02:09 AM   #1726
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

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Oh yeah? Then explain the staking splits? Explain the 2k in make up?

Not being harsh at all. The kid got lazy on the grind - chased females like a desperate puppy - and the inevitable busto conclusion is happening. There is nothing wrong with calling it like it is.
I may have skipped over the poker posts they're boring to me, anyway it's a travel thread not PG&C.

Sure he dabbled in poker to prolong his stay, but his first intention was just to have fun, which he did. He's 22-23 he was broke already like most people at that age. He set a very sensible strict monthly budget right from the start. Mostly people hating are probably in their mid 30s and 40s and I bet were just as broke as OP at his age.

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Old 09-11-2017, 02:12 AM   #1727
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I may have skipped over the poker posts because yawn who gives af about poker, it's a travel thread not PG&C.

Sure he dabbled in poker to prolong his stay, but his first intention was just to have fun, which he did. He's 22-23 he was broke already, and set a very sensible strict monthly budget right from the start. Mostly people hating are probably in their mid 30s and 40s and I bet were just as broke as OP at his age.
Having arrangements with backers and playing on other people's money and being accountable to that (significant) makeup is much more than just "dabbling" in poker.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:06 AM   #1728
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

have to agree with mr Jack here, u can do whatever u want with your money but staking arrangement is something different. He was practically freerolling his staker, cause when he goes into makeup he just gives up life and has no intention of grinding it back up.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:24 AM   #1729
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

In that long post above he says he's 'going to work it off'. Where does he say he has not intention to do so and is freerolling the staker? He can still grind back home.

Maybe in the staking arrangement if he doesn't hit volume goals he has to give up a higher %.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:27 AM   #1730
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Ill take some action 1:1 that he doesnt grind out the makeup once he is out of PH
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:32 AM   #1731
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have to agree with mr Jack here, u can do whatever u want with your money but staking arrangement is something different. He was practically freerolling his staker, cause when he goes into makeup he just gives up life and has no intention of grinding it back up.
Grinding 70 hours a month does in no way equal running off with the makeup. It's lazy, but I've been just as lazy before being in makeup, averaging less than 100 hours. The reason I dropped volume is because I've never had a 4k downswing before and I allowed it to affect my motivation too much.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:46 AM   #1732
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

Grüße an Muti M..

Man.. How could you possibly risk your 'paradise' the last weeks to go back to hell just to maybe, just maybe upgrade from your lazy 8 gf to better.. especially after she finally performed properly..

please do update on the great deals for Afghan dope on german streets... It seems you'll need some
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:02 PM   #1733
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I said this before to someone else on here, though he managed to nomad himself into a good lifestyle (I think). Go home work hard come back with a 10k roll. Then grinding is optional. Girls can be paid when you are in a rut. This busto mentality is not going to give you a great time. Always soso. Money talks bull**** walks...
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:40 PM   #1734
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Hey i'm considering spending a month in Manila, but i'm kinda scared about the president being crazy and stuff like that

Is it actually dangerous to be there like you can get in trouble for nothing ?

Basically i don't want to get killed or put in jail for no reason LOL
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:11 PM   #1735
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The president or political situation don't affect you at all as a normal tourist. To get in trouble you really have to look for it like deal drugs or I'm sure goldenspiral9 would find a way to get killed or jailed here but not the average tourist.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:24 PM   #1736
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so Info, how long do you think you have left in PH? If grinding doesn't work out will you start doing work online or just pack up and head back? I respect the balls it took to make the move, and the apartment is pretty sweet. I just think you should try to have a more memorable time rather then be cooped up grinding all day and miss out on the awesome circumstance you're in while you still have the chance.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:41 PM   #1737
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Ill take some action 1:1 that he doesnt grind out the makeup once he is out of PH
+1

When the kid leaves, it looks like both his backer and his landlord will be stiffed out of cash.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:05 PM   #1738
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Grinding 70 hours a month does in no way equal running off with the makeup. It's lazy, but I've been just as lazy before being in makeup, averaging less than 100 hours. The reason I dropped volume is because I've never had a 4k downswing before and I allowed it to affect my motivation too much.
Was this on the Asian scam site by any chance, the one that has superusers and bots?
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:58 PM   #1739
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When the kid leaves, it looks like both his backer and his landlord will be stiffed out of cash.
First of all it's still 'if he leaves', not 'when', and second of all you're wrong, I would definitely grind out the makeup, for moral reasons and also because I still see great long term value in the staking deal.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:02 PM   #1740
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First of all it's still 'if he leaves', not 'when', and second of all you're wrong, I would definitely grind out the makeup, for moral reasons and also because I still see great long term value in the staking deal.
Feel free to throw up a prop line for you being in PH with your current situation in X months. I'm sure that you'll get action on it
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:35 PM   #1741
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Feel free to throw up a prop line for you being in PH with your current situation in X months. I'm sure that you'll get action on it
Nah, I won't engage in bets, I'll focus on grinding, but it would be ironic if I were to end up homeless cuz I escrowed the money that I needed to pay the bills.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:52 PM   #1742
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Nah, I won't engage in bets, I'll focus on grinding, but it would be ironic if I were to end up homeless cuz I escrowed the money that I needed to pay the bills.
If I ever found myself without enough funds to bet on myself then that's the time I would know to head back to Germany.

You tried, you got lazy, you failed. You're being given good advice in this thread (from multiple people, not just me) about heading back home and coming back later with a real bankroll, you should think about following it.

"When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".
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Old 09-13-2017, 02:03 AM   #1743
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

For someone that found himself broke on multiple occasions in foreign countries in my 20s, I say keep your chin up Info, this is a priceless experience
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Old 09-13-2017, 02:10 AM   #1744
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

I'm curious what you guys think would be a decent roll for OP? Those anyone ITT stacked shelves as a living before?
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:06 AM   #1745
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

the main problem is not on how much to come back with, but correcting why he failed..

For him to prioritize chaising tail while in a lazy, low roll situation is mindboggling when he already had an '8' gf who was finally improving on her own lazy flaws..
and all those who were enticing this poor soul to do so, are also guilty of poor advice.

His major problem is not just a lack of improving on his admitted flaws but very poor judgement / delusion in evaluating the EV distributions of his life choices, his careless fat tail risk taking of creampies, and other *****..

Overall, his present broke situation is more or less par for the course for his behavior, could be much much worse
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:43 AM   #1746
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I'm coming to Phils with savings for 6 months. I expect no significant income for the next few months.
Was pretty clear in his intention i'd say. Not sure why everyone's blasting him for low volume while being staked and making next to nothing. Pretty sure no one else from a 1st world country would do it either...

Go home, figure it out and come up with a more sustainable plan next time.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:43 PM   #1747
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Re: Clueless kid moving to Manila - Never been to Asia before

He is where everyone thought K2 would be after 6 months. lol K2 still in Asia 5+ years later and with a bigger BR than what he started with.
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Old 09-13-2017, 02:48 PM   #1748
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He is where everyone thought K2 would be after 6 months. lol K2 still in Asia 5+ years later and with a bigger BR than what he started with.
I've already offered a prop to the kid. The busto conclusion to this is inevitable.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:53 PM   #1749
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K2d is clearly a genius
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:23 PM   #1750
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It's hard to go busto when you set such a low budget, in my experience poker guys that go busto were all balling out, g clubs, soapies, out drinking every night, fancy condos, then games got hard and they were too embarrassed to budget.

All the guys that set good budgets and weren't shy about it ended up fine, PE, k2, that guy who married a Thai Christian, and myself back in the day when I moved over at 23. Even Pooter in his prime gigalo days.
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