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Old 05-15-2017, 07:29 PM   #1001
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u arent 80 years old, why couldnt u play more tables first then worry about scripts in the future?
Cuz I knew I'd be able to 2 table way more comfortably and therefore play longer sessions at slightly better winrate on this ridiculous software with a script so I wanted to finish it asap. What I didn't know is that my awesome potential 80/20 staking deal would get terminated for lack of volume and accidently breaking the stoploss rule one week after I finish the script. I was planning to play on this site for a really long time at least the rest of the year. It's a beat.

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Old 05-15-2017, 08:54 PM   #1002
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Just don't play above 40nl on that site..I heard it rigged the player on the stake above that stake limit..my friend play 2-3 tables there and can make 1,5-2/month
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:03 PM   #1003
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If 40nl is the cap then I'll definitely stop playing there at all unless I find a deal as good as my previous one. Not worth grinding 40nl for less than 70-80%.

Pretty frustrating I ended up working 133.5 hours for $2.5 an hour but whatever, gotta move on.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:24 PM   #1004
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Have you seen this thread on IDN : https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...61/index3.html

Site seems rigged!
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:43 PM   #1005
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:14 PM   #1006
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[] breaking stop loss rules is a beat

there is nothing more key to a risk/return of a financial proposition than stop loss rules discipline
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:14 PM   #1007
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1 tabling for 2 months to develop a script that allows you to..... 2 table?

what am i missing here?
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:28 PM   #1008
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1 tabling for 2 months to develop a script that allows you to..... 2 table?

what am i missing here?
First of all it was 5 weeks (in which I only worked 100 hours), not 2 months, second of all 2 tabling fast tables (6 seconds per action with no time bank) on that crap software is really exhausting and third of all I could potentially 3 table with it after getting used to 2 tabling with the script.

You don't know how crappy the software is, it has no bet buttons, postflop in 20bb+ pots you have to manually type your bet amount in an input field or use a very crappy slider and now with my script you just have to press a button which saves you about 2 seconds for each 6 second decision which means more thinking time and less misclicks so it also improves winrate by at least a little on top of making everything more comfortable.

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Old 05-15-2017, 11:56 PM   #1009
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play nl40 with your liferoll?
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:57 PM   #1010
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10 BI of 40nl is too large % of my life roll... Sad but true
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Old 05-16-2017, 01:15 AM   #1011
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Could you sell the script as a hotkeys program for some passive income?
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Old 05-16-2017, 01:24 AM   #1012
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I agree with LonelyBox. You don't the 10BI, you can set a small stoploss like 5BI. And if you lose too much, there is always g4p

Robotface you gotta be kidding right
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Old 05-16-2017, 01:30 AM   #1013
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First of all it was 5 weeks (in which I only worked 100 hours), not 2 months, second of all 2 tabling fast tables (6 seconds per action with no time bank) on that crap software is really exhausting and third of all I could potentially 3 table with it after getting used to 2 tabling with the script.

You don't know how crappy the software is, it has no bet buttons, postflop in 20bb+ pots you have to manually type your bet amount in an input field or use a very crappy slider and now with my script you just have to press a button which saves you about 2 seconds for each 6 second decision which means more thinking time and less misclicks so it also improves winrate by at least a little on top of making everything more comfortable.
ok.... but these sound like decisions that someone with a lot more money can make, not someone who is broke

make 2.50 an hour for a month to maybe make $5 or $8 an hour in a few months?

i dont think some people get how hard it is to survive with no money as a dig nomad/self employed/online poker player or whatever it is

you cant take days off, you need to do as much work as you can, and how 'comfortable' you are has nothing to do with any of it, i continue to work when i have migraines, thats not very comfortable

if you dont really care about going bust and going home then thats fine, but if your goal is to actually survive over here long term then you need to start thinking about things completely differently
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Old 05-16-2017, 01:37 AM   #1014
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Could you sell the script as a hotkeys program for some passive income?
My script is not flexible enough to sell commercially. It only works on IDN so I'm sure there isn't enough demand and even if there was it's not user friendly for people that don't know how it works and it only works for one screen resolution / table size. It's a simple script made to serve its purpose for myself. I would have to do a lot of work to make it flexible for all table sizes etc. as it's pixel based. It's not worth it.

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ok.... but these sound like decisions that someone with a lot more money can make, not someone who is broke

make 2.50 an hour for a month to maybe make $5 or $8 an hour in a few months?

i dont think some people get how hard it is to survive with no money as a dig nomad/self employed/online poker player or whatever it is

you cant take days off, you need to do as much work as you can, and how 'comfortable' you are has nothing to do with any of it, i continue to work when i have migraines, thats not very comfortable

if you dont really care about going bust and going home then thats fine, but if your goal is to actually survive over here long term then you need to start thinking about things completely differently
Word. I often set my priorities wrong and I'm also very stubborn with projects like that and really wanted to finish the script before getting to work. I thought it'd take like 10 hours to make when I started but that became 100.

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Old 05-16-2017, 01:51 AM   #1015
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since you don't have much income activity at the moment and seem to be good at programming

maybe you look into scripting something for price alerts sent by sms for fake internet monies (coins listed on poloniex and/or bittrex exchange) and find telecom partner for it, as there is a very clear market need for that ..
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:43 AM   #1016
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My script is not flexible enough to sell commercially. It only works on IDN so I'm sure there isn't enough demand and even if there was it's not user friendly for people that don't know how it works and it only works for one screen resolution / table size. It's a simple script made to serve its purpose for myself. I would have to do a lot of work to make it flexible for all table sizes etc. as it's pixel based. It's not worth it.
So it's touted as the 2nd most trafficked site and has terrible software that bets need to be manually typed and you can make a script to improve this? I'd pay for it. Also from what I understand the easiest way to get money on/off that site is through affiliates/agents. If you have a decent product you can approach those affiliates and sell it as a lump sum to them or even sell it to your staker for his horses. You're not going to get rich but it seems like there is a payday there.
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:28 PM   #1017
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The only thing that would keep me on the super soft site is if I got my old deal again, 80/20 if I reach 200 hours or 30k hands per month, 70/30 on months I don't reach that goal. But I guess I won't find that (pm if you wanna stake me ). The site I've been playing on all this time is ******** btw. Mostly Asian fish, 2nd highest traffic on Pokerscout so it's not really a secret. For 40nl I need about $400 bankroll (my biggest downswing in 134 hours has been less than $150). I'd be playing 2 tables ("fast" tables = 6 seconds per action and no time bank, but still the tables play at 80 hands per hour because the whole table is limping fish). I have a flat 35% rakeback deal that is paid weekly that we would split same as table winnings. PM for Skype and more details. Staking thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13.../#post52218327
Update: I'm willing to make the split 70/30 unless I make at least $1,000 per month and play 30k hands per month, only then the split for the month will be 80/20.

Last chance before I sign that other coaching deal for 6 months.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:09 PM   #1018
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Take the coaching deal imo
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:36 PM   #1019
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Update: I'm willing to make the split 70/30 unless I make at least $1,000 per month and play 30k hands per month, only then the split for the month will be 80/20.

Last chance before I sign that other coaching deal for 6 months.
My friend said it's easy making 1k/mo in that site,just play ABC poker and be more careful on table selection(ofc don't tilt if you.get suckout)..the coaching deal is great of you want to play on other site..
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:39 PM   #1020
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my friend said it's easy to make 10k/mo on that site just be the best player on the site
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:42 PM   #1021
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how much you need for a stake, like 20 buy ins of 40nl?
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:43 PM   #1022
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my friend said it's easy to make 10k/mo on that site just be the best player on the site
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:44 PM   #1023
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my friend said it's easy to make 100k/mo on that site just be the best superuser on the site
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:48 PM   #1024
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how much you need for a stake, like 20 buy ins of 40nl?
Only 10 buy-ins (or 6 if you can send reloads as needed) because the vast majority of the opponents are uber fish that play short stacked (20-40bb) and variance is very low.

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My friend said it's easy making 1k/mo in that site,just play ABC poker and be more careful on table selection(ofc don't tilt if you.get suckout)..the coaching deal is great of you want to play on other site..
That's why I'm so confident I can make 1k/mo almost every single month that I'm willing to make my cut depend on whether I reach 1k or not. (70/30 if I don't reach 1k for the month, 80/20 if I do)

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Old 05-16-2017, 04:52 PM   #1025
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What % of your profit is from pre rakeback winnings?

What happens with your rakeback % if you aren't getting staked by the affiliate?
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