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Old 05-15-2017, 07:56 AM   #976
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Laying odds with prop betting usually means there is some suffering so the person paying the 6-1 also gets some enjoyment out of it even if they lose. Playing poker and getting fit has no sadistic factor so it's hard to get action. Throw some ladyboy activities into the mix and there may be some customers.
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:05 AM   #977
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Laying odds with prop betting usually means there is some suffering so the person paying the 6-1 also gets some enjoyment out of it even if they lose. Playing poker and getting fit has no sadistic factor so it's hard to get action. Throw some ladyboy activities into the mix and there may be some customers.
i like the thinking; but I am not much in ladyboys excitement;
now if he creampies during the entire bet and also brings another girl in for 2 days risking his schwanz, now we are talking 6/1 material ...

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Old 05-15-2017, 08:11 AM   #978
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12 : 1 Odd to let you gf cut your dong and I bet you won't be able attach it back
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:22 AM   #979
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i think these odds are just fine, but the key is he must not be properly financially motivated to do it.
I made a bet a few days ago where i need to have sex with a croatian girl until 1st of september, i got 28:1 odds.
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:29 AM   #980
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i think these odds are just fine, but the key is he must not be properly financially motivated to do it.
I made a bet a few days ago where i need to have sex with a croatian girl until 1st of september, i got 28:1 odds.
that s why I said initially I wanted to have 70 pct + of the action and a capped certain amount to not squeeze it too much towards the 'for one million I'll do anything'
he proposed up to 100 and that was just fine
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:42 AM   #981
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Bernie: not disagreeing with any of that, in fact I acknowledged part of it in my analysis. I'm just saying that using a once in a lifetime ******ed bet that happened to be occurring at a similar time is not a good argument.
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:52 AM   #982
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It might seem that there is nothing else to eat, but I'll give u some examples
Meal 1: pork, broccoli, carrots. Dessert: pineaple
Meal 2 : two omelettes with bacon, onion, peanuts. Water with squeezed lime for dessert.
Meal 3: cooked milk with oatmeal, bananas.
Meal 4: chicken soup with veggies such as sweet potatoes, yam, cabbage, onions, garlic, pepper, paprika, cauliflower, carrots. An apple as a dessert.
why even live if this is what you have to look forward to?
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:42 AM   #983
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Water with squeezed lime taste good, what's the problem?
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:14 AM   #984
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What the people saying I'm 'stubborn', 'pissing on my best action' or 'should've taken that 4.5/1' fail to understand: I don't want the prop bet under 5/1 (original full prop bet 6/1). You're making it sound like I'm pissing on bernie's 4.5/1 cuz I'm greedy for more but I'd rather get no action at all than get action for those odds. 6/1 or 5/1 were already the minimum odds for me to be willing to make the bet. Again, I'm ok with no action.

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Old 05-15-2017, 11:29 AM   #985
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Water with squeezed lime taste good, what's the problem?
its not a dessert or something to look forward to, its a glass of water
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:16 PM   #986
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...snip...
Meal 3: cooked milk with oatmeal, bananas.
Meal 4: chicken soup with veggies such as sweet potatoes, yam, cabbage, onions, garlic, pepper, paprika, cauliflower, carrots. An apple as a dessert.
Going2asia - your suggestions look very close to what I ate to lose 85 pounds. One big difference is that instead of cows milk, I used unsweetened Almond/coconut blend milk. The Bluediamond brand tastes like ordinary skim milk and I personally prefer it slightly over the Silk brand.

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Old 05-15-2017, 12:20 PM   #987
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Booked a one way ticket to Manila without much of a plan how long I'm staying or where I'll be by the end of the year. For now I have a place in Taguig for up to 6 months.

I've quit poker in October last year but while grinding online I was usually silently reading 2+2 degen stories in the Phils, Thailand and Cambodia threads and of course k2d's thread who inspired me with his cheap, arguably strange lifestyle. I didn't even have any intention of going to Asia at the time, I just found the stories in those threads entertaining and it always makes me happy to see people cut ties from the norms and expectation of society to live life as they want.

Flight to Manila is in 9 days, idk what to expect but I'll share my experiences here.
I've been here for 3 months to the day and still have no idea what the answer is to the bold part. Any speculation where I'll be on NYE 2017/2018? Still in my 1 br flat in Manila with gf? Broke and homeless / back in Germany? Banging hookers in Pattaya?

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Old 05-15-2017, 01:31 PM   #988
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How much actual cash have you made since you got to Manila?
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:35 PM   #989
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Banging hookers in Pattaya?
Angeles is cheaper
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:22 PM   #990
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How much actual cash have you made since you got to Manila?
My guess is none so far
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:41 PM   #991
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$345 ($494 * 70% which is my share)... In 134 hours! of grinding 40nl which was mostly one tabling so that I could develop the bet script that's now finished but that I may never use again now... $2.5 per hour

Staker only wants to continue at 60/40 with no bonus for hands or hours (before it was 70/30 by default, 75/25 from 120 hours/month, 80/20 from 200 hours/month)
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:36 PM   #992
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$345 ($494 * 70% which is my share)... In 134 hours! of grinding 40nl which was mostly one tabling so that I could develop the bet script that's now finished but that I may never use again now... $2.5 per hour
Just think if you'd had 100% of yourself you'd be making bout tree fiddy an hour

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Old 05-15-2017, 03:53 PM   #993
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Staker only wants to continue at 60/40 with no bonus for hands or hours (before it was 70/30 by default, 75/25 from 120 hours/month, 80/20 from 200 hours/month)
That's insane. Has you grinding for 2.50 an hour and wants more? It's like slavery already.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:39 PM   #994
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That's insane. Has you grinding for 2.50 an hour and wants more? It's like slavery already.
Well, it was my own choice mainly one-tabling in April to develop a fully functional bet script instead of 2- or 3-tabling from the start. I thought I'd be playing on that super soft site for at least the rest of the year so the bet script would be worth it for me.

I think in the next days I'm gonna enter some 50/50 staking deal I found starting on 50nl on WPN, including coaching from mid-highstakes players to better help me improve to move up in stakes asap. I think that's the best long term move for me at this point. But I'll have to sign for 6 months so I should think this through well.

The only thing that would keep me on the super soft site is if I got my old deal again, 80/20 if I reach 200 hours or 30k hands per month, 70/30 on months I don't reach that goal. But I guess I won't find that (pm if you wanna stake me ). The site I've been playing on all this time is ******** btw. Mostly Asian fish, 2nd highest traffic on Pokerscout so it's not really a secret. For 40nl I need about $400 bankroll (my biggest downswing in 134 hours has been less than $150). I'd be playing 2 tables ("fast" tables = 6 seconds per action and no time bank, but still the tables play at 80 hands per hour because the whole table is limping fish). I have a flat 35% rakeback deal that is paid weekly that we would split same as table winnings. PM for Skype and more details. Staking thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13.../#post52218327

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Old 05-15-2017, 05:25 PM   #995
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lols should've posted the thread I sent you too:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...61/index4.html

cliffs: rake 3% uncapped. This includes rake on uncalled bets so if someone goes all in and you raise to isolate you get raked on your isolation even if no one else calls.

Several old pros claim it's rigged. In the course of 30 hands people are saying they lost boat to boat, aces all in vs **** like 83o etc. for 20 of the 30 hands. And this isn't an isolated incident. So there's superusers and bots and superusing bots. They get into much further detail fwiw.

None of this at his stake though. Yet...
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:35 PM   #996
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u had me at 3% uncapped
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Old 05-15-2017, 06:12 PM   #997
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lols should've posted the thread I sent you too:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...61/index4.html

cliffs: rake 3% uncapped. This includes rake on uncalled bets so if someone goes all in and you raise to isolate you get raked on your isolation even if no one else calls.

Several old pros claim it's rigged. In the course of 30 hands people are saying they lost boat to boat, aces all in vs **** like 83o etc. for 20 of the 30 hands. And this isn't an isolated incident. So there's superusers and bots and superusing bots. They get into much further detail fwiw.

None of this at his stake though. Yet...
For all I know I have a good winrate on IDN Poker at 40nl, the 40nl games are literally the softest cash games above 2nl I've ever played and I haven't experienced anything rigged in over 10k hands. If you say the people saying it's rigged on higher stakes are credible long time pros then I obviously believe you and I'd be extra careful about moving up but at this point 40nl on IDN is free money to me, seems extremely profitable to me and I wanna continue playing 40nl there if I get a good deal.

I just counted my hours 1- and 2-tabling and made some calculations assuming 80 hands/hour per table:
  • 35.5h two tabling
  • 99h one tabling
  • 13,440 hands played
  • $494 / 1,235 bb won after rakeback
  • 9.2bb/100 winrate after rakeback (most winnings are pre-rakeback)
  • $5.9 per hour if I only 2 table 40nl
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:01 PM   #998
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How much of a life roll do you still have? And what does a bet script mean?
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:15 PM   #999
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How much of a life roll do you still have? And what does a bet script mean?
I prefer not to say, it's just humiliating at this point speculating when/if I'll go broke . I still have enough.

Bet script means a script that assigns certain actions to hotkeys, e.g. bet 2/3 pot or open 3bb + 1bb * limpers. It means you can play more tables or play your same number of tables with less misclicks and it's more comfortable so it's also less tiring to play hours-long sessions imo. All this is especially true for sites with crappy software.

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Old 05-15-2017, 07:24 PM   #1000
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u arent 80 years old, why couldnt u play more tables first then worry about scripts in the future?
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