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Old 04-26-2017, 12:39 AM   #701
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Oh right yeah should work

To be fair shorts are doable, just get some plain twill $30 ones that fit well

Again with a plain black or plain white tee, ideally a polo shirt to offset the fact you're in shorts

Nothing baggy, all slim fit

With the right loafers you can go sockless and cut down on laundry costs, then they eventually pay for themselves

is that dante on the right?

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Old 04-26-2017, 01:33 AM   #702
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is that dante on the right?

Could be Eminem before he hit it big and could afford nice wiggers clothes.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:39 AM   #703
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If it was I can't inform his arch enemy now can I

Probably plotting with Spiv on his farm in Oz right now
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:54 AM   #704
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Makati immigration is closed today until Monday so I'll have to go Tuesday after 46 days of overstay

Theory: On Tuesday after 4 days holiday there will be so many visitors and so much work the employees will be less likely to scam me with higher than the expected cost (12-13k)
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Old 04-27-2017, 02:38 PM   #705
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Now that we're done with pants and shirts, I'm curious to hear you guys opinion about shoes and haircuts.
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Old 04-27-2017, 03:33 PM   #706
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Today was a new record handing out 6 notes in one day and NONE texted me back so far, 7 hours since the last note. I was wearing not-nice shorts and ugly comfy running shoes. Could be a coincidence, could not be a coincidence.



The 8 from Sunday wants to come to my condo this Saturday. She's acting super interested texting me a lot everyday but I've learned that doesn't have to mean much with Filipinas or girls from anywhere really. I've also learned from crush that it's better to not be available for much texting. Speaking of which, I've had no contact with crush for the past 7 days and she hasn't reached out to me. I'm pretty sure that ship sailed long time ago even before the cinema date. But hey, the 8 is 0.5 points hotter than her and unlike her wants my attention so I'm not grieving much about it. I'll still invite crush to my place after this week of silence in a last-ditch attempt though.

Anyone ever been at the beaches in Batangas? The 8 is going there with friends on Sunday - Monday and I told her I'm thinking of coming with them if she wants but got no reply yet (it was 1am). You think a Filipina would be embarrassed in front of her friends to bring a foreigner she just met?

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Old 04-27-2017, 04:26 PM   #707
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I'm sure the shoes and haircut could improve your text back ratio.

How tall are you OP?

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Old 04-27-2017, 04:33 PM   #708
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I hate those paper bags
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Old 04-27-2017, 04:54 PM   #709
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I hate those paper bags
Why? Theyre fun. You get to race the clock to see if you can get home before they break.

On a side note when youre at the grocery store and they ask if you want plastic bags... By default they try to stuff the bags as full as possible. I'll gladly pay the extra 2 pesos so my bags don't rip.
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Old 04-27-2017, 05:01 PM   #710
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Makati immigration is closed today until Monday so I'll have to go Tuesday after 46 days of overstay

Theory: On Tuesday after 4 days holiday there will be so many visitors and so much work the employees will be less likely to scam me with higher than the expected cost (12-13k)
Just a heads up, the immigration office is no longer where google maps would suggest. They moved offices to across the street from the old city hall. Much more space and organization. Only took me 20 mins in and out by some miracle.

also dont sweat the overstay. Its gonna feel like a scam because 70% of the cost is bs fees. You just gotta pay it and move on. No risk of any trouble as long as you pay.
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Old 04-27-2017, 07:47 PM   #711
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With how little money you currently have I don't think going to the Islands with a group of girls is a good idea. Even if they aren't hoping you're going to pay the whole trip for all of them (and there's a chance they are thinking that,) I still think it's going to be a bad look for you over all.

Also with the way you've handled social interactions with these girls so far, you need to aim for the minimum possible amount of time spent on anything that happens before sex, because the more time is spent on that the worse your chances of getting laid are, not the better.

Don't go to the Island, don't meet a girls friends, don't even go to the cinema with her. Take the K2d and People's Elbow approach and focus entirely of finding slutty girls that will just come right to your place and bang and then that's it. I don't mean after a date, I mean after just a few texts.

Probably take Yellow Fever's advice and just look for the 6's for now. Look for girls who are average looking tops and slutty. That's your ticket. Those girls won't need you to take them to the island or the cinema and they won't ask you to meet their friends. Those girls will happily come over to your place and bang after just a few texts.

Those girls are out there, you just need to find them. Start by forgetting about and ignoring for now the 8's and 9's. Your question shouldn't be 'how hot is this girl,' your question should be 'how slutty is this girl,' and how fast will she jump on your dick. Those are the girls you are looking for, don't mind if their logos are just kind of men, that's OK.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:06 PM   #712
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Length and girth?
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:05 PM   #713
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I write 97012345 instead of 097012345 and I thought it works the same? I don't understand the use of the 0 when leaving away the countrycode (I got a Filipino number)
The proper way to write a phone number in the Philippines is +XX YYY ZZZ ZZZZ.

XX is the country code, which is 63
YYY is the network/carrier code, which for mobiles is usually 9aa where aa can be a huge variety of numbers that is allocated separately for each phone provider, or by region ie, Metro Manila is 2, while Cebu is 3.
ZZZ ZZZZ is the actual phone number

So when you are on Smart, and calling somebody else with a Smart number, you can just dial YYYZZZZZZ or 9182222222.

If you are on Smart and calling a different network (like Globe or vice versa), you must dial 09173333333. The 0 tells the carrier that there is a network/carrier change.

This is why when calling a MM landline from a mobile phone you must dial 02ZZZZZZZ, and why on the landline calling another local landline you just dial ZZZZZZZ.

The best way to enter numbers into your phone is the complete method +639182222222. This ensures that you can always text or call that person whether you change sim, carrier, or out of the country.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:05 PM   #714
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Hell yeah I like that approach ITT666
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:52 PM   #715
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Now that we're done with pants and shirts, I'm curious to hear you guys opinion about shoes and haircuts.
I'm in favor of them.

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you should only ask people that in PM if you're curious.

OP: I'm disappointed that you'd even think of going to the island. That's ******ed. Going on a trip with a girl is a strictly boyfriend move. You're not the girl's boyfriend-you're trying to **** other girls. When you're on this trip, unless you're a supermac (which you're not yet) you're stuck with the one 8 and it will probably be hard to even text other girls with the 8 and her friends on your back. And it sounds like you invited yourself?
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:21 PM   #716
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The proper way to write a phone number in the Philippines is +XX YYY ZZZ ZZZZ.

XX is the country code, which is 63
YYY is the network/carrier code, which for mobiles is usually 9aa where aa can be a huge variety of numbers that is allocated separately for each phone provider, or by region ie, Metro Manila is 2, while Cebu is 3.
ZZZ ZZZZ is the actual phone number

So when you are on Smart, and calling somebody else with a Smart number, you can just dial YYYZZZZZZ or 9182222222.

If you are on Smart and calling a different network (like Globe or vice versa), you must dial 09173333333. The 0 tells the carrier that there is a network/carrier change.

This is why when calling a MM landline from a mobile phone you must dial 02ZZZZZZZ, and why on the landline calling another local landline you just dial ZZZZZZZ.

The best way to enter numbers into your phone is the complete method +639182222222. This ensures that you can always text or call that person whether you change sim, carrier, or out of the country.
So I flawed my textback rate by only allowing roughly half of the girls to text me plus ones that figure out a 0 is missing?

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With how little money you currently have I don't think going to the Islands with a group of girls is a good idea. Even if they aren't hoping you're going to pay the whole trip for all of them (and there's a chance they are thinking that,) I still think it's going to be a bad look for you over all.

Also with the way you've handled social interactions with these girls so far, you need to aim for the minimum possible amount of time spent on anything that happens before sex, because the more time is spent on that the worse your chances of getting laid are, not the better.

Don't go to the Island, don't meet a girls friends, don't even go to the cinema with her. Take the K2d and People's Elbow approach and focus entirely of finding slutty girls that will just come right to your place and bang and then that's it. I don't mean after a date, I mean after just a few texts.

Probably take Yellow Fever's advice and just look for the 6's for now. Look for girls who are average looking tops and slutty. That's your ticket. Those girls won't need you to take them to the island or the cinema and they won't ask you to meet their friends. Those girls will happily come over to your place and bang after just a few texts.

Those girls are out there, you just need to find them. Start by forgetting about and ignoring for now the 8's and 9's. Your question shouldn't be 'how hot is this girl,' your question should be 'how slutty is this girl,' and how fast will she jump on your dick. Those are the girls you are looking for, don't mind if their logos are just kind of men, that's OK.
I've actually wanted to visit some of the islands and I don't really have friends so going with a hot 8 and her friends seems like the best option. I don't even know how many friends and if they're girls or guys too but I'm ok with both. And on another note I would gladly LTR an 8 if she doesn't expect me to spend a lot of money on dates, it's free daily sex or at least many times a week with an 8, why not?

It's not gonna happen that I pay for their trip, I tell every girl I don't have a lot of money.
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:50 PM   #717
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If you want to go on the trip just go on the trip man, you'll probably have a good time and it gets you out of the house a bit, if they don't expect you to pay for them I don't see what the big deal is. Doing something else with a girl besides banging wont kill you.

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He's been there for 2 months or so and met with 2 girls, I doubt he's going to miss out on that much by not texting girls for a couple of days.
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:26 AM   #718
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It's not gonna happen that I pay for their trip, I tell every girl I don't have a lot of money.
= Kuripot .. if you hear them saying that word, you know it's about you being a cheapo

Either you are 0.1 percent in some way as you may think sometimes or you are not keeping things real again.

You need to understand your options better I think;
1. The ITT666 suggestions of click and banging slutty 6's (not my recommendation)
2. Interacting more in higher populated / poorer neighborhoods (not malls) with cards or 'game' towards poorer but genuine and motivated not slutty 6's
3. working hard on your income / spending power and go for 8's, your crush or others in that category but don t expect much of any result until you can spend 10.000 k php + per month on a particular girl, including giving her some cash to help her family and then meeting her friends circle and family for a 'serious' relationship

going for 8's on the higher end of the social spectrum in malls or who organize their beach trips is not a bad idea in se for networking in a general sense but your goal of scoring a stable 8 girlfriend this way just by being your young 0.1 percent 'kuripot' self is not going to cut it imho

Good luck on immigration; make sure you ask about the next deadline and all the information related to the ACR. If you are not improving your 'life' management issues / discipline, expect more problems ahead, you have been quite lucky so far with Stoned girl.
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:53 AM   #719
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Anyone ever been at the beaches in Batangas? The 8 is going there with friends on Sunday - Monday and I told her I'm thinking of coming with them if she wants but got no reply yet (it was 1am). You think a Filipina would be embarrassed in front of her friends to bring a foreigner she just met?
Trying to invite yourself is a weak move. You should be trying to hang out with the girl for the first time alone not on her vacation with her friends. I'd get it if she asked you or something but to pull the invite yourself card to put yourself in the spot you really dont want to be with a girl first dating with her friends on a island seems -EV.

Not to mention you're on a budget you should be home making cash not trying to go to this island and spending money on a hotel and entertainment with these girls.
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He's been there for 2 months or so and met with 2 girls, I doubt he's going to miss out on that much by not texting girls for a couple of days.
True enough.

OP are you American? If so you musta seen that Seinfeld episode about what relationship killers trips like this are early on.
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Old 04-28-2017, 01:10 AM   #721
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Trying to invite yourself is a weak move. You should be trying to hang out with the girl for the first time alone not on her vacation with her friends. I'd get it if she asked you or something but to pull the invite yourself card to put yourself in the spot you really dont want to be with a girl first dating with her friends on a island seems -EV.

Not to mention you're on a budget you should be home making cash not trying to go to this island and spending money on a hotel and entertainment with these girls.
Agreed. The right line here was ''lets hang out when you come back''

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= Kuripot .. if you hear them saying that word, you know it's about you being a cheapo

Either you are 0.1 percent in some way as you may think sometimes or you are not keeping things real again.

You need to understand your options better I think;
1. The ITT666 suggestions of click and banging slutty 6's (not my recommendation)
2. Interacting more in higher populated / poorer neighborhoods (not malls) with cards or 'game' towards poorer but genuine and motivated not slutty 6's
3. working hard on your income / spending power and go for 8's, your crush or others in that category but don t expect much of any result until you can spend 10.000 k php + per month on a particular girl, including giving her some cash to help her family and then meeting her friends circle and family for a 'serious' relationship

going for 8's on the higher end of the social spectrum in malls or who organize their beach trips is not a bad idea in se for networking in a general sense but your goal of scoring a stable 8 girlfriend this way just by being your young 0.1 percent 'kuripot' self is not going to cut it imho

Good luck on immigration; make sure you ask about the next deadline and all the information related to the ACR. If you are not improving your 'life' management issues / discipline, expect more problems ahead, you have been quite lucky so far with Stoned girl.
That sounds ****ing depressing, if a girl just wants me for money I'd indeed rather just **** and dump them.

I'm pretty sure I'm far from top 0.1 percent, even in Philippines, but being an average looking white guy in ok shape and being in your early 20's in Philippines is damn good and I believe enough to win an 8 without having or spending more money than your average Filipino guy.

I just don't really like the approach of putting in effort (such as swiping 100s of girls and then texting 100s of girls) to have a lot of 6's. I'd rather find the hottest girls that are interested in me and try bang them, ideally regularly or even LTR in some rare case if I really like the girl. With crush that didn't work out cuz I gave her too much attention but I wanna learn from my mistakes but still focus on fewer hotter girls.

That's just my sexual preference and isn't even considering STDs (I'm really too YOLO / bad risk management to base any of my decisions on STDs). I don't wanna get into details right now but I think stoner girl gave me something, I'm cured now though. Talk about a bad run, 1 girl in 2 months and something like that happens. I barebacked her for 75 minutes though (first 30, then 45) and we were both sore the next day so I wouldn't be surprised if we exchanged everything we had lol.

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Trying to invite yourself is a weak move. You should be trying to hang out with the girl for the first time alone not on her vacation with her friends. I'd get it if she asked you or something but to pull the invite yourself card to put yourself in the spot you really dont want to be with a girl first dating with her friends on a island seems -EV.

Not to mention you're on a budget you should be home making cash not trying to go to this island and spending money on a hotel and entertainment with these girls.
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True enough.

OP are you American? If so you musta seen that Seinfeld episode about what relationship killers trips like this are early on.
I'm German and haven't watched that episode but fair point, it's probably -EV for getting laid or maybe even -EV from a LTR perspective although I'm curious about cliffs how so.

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Enough to impress stoner girl
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Old 04-28-2017, 01:52 AM   #723
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2. Interacting more in higher populated / poorer neighborhoods (not malls) with cards or 'game' towards poorer but genuine and motivated not slutty 6's
3. working hard on your income / spending power and go for 8's, your crush or others in that category but don t expect much of any result until you can spend 10.000 k php + per month on a particular girl, including giving her some cash to help her family and then meeting her friends circle and family for a 'serious' relationship
Wait, I could have a gf for $200 a month? That sounds like a steal.
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Basically the gist of that Seinfeld episode is that it puts a relationship in a pressure cooker. You've spent a few hours with this girl, now you wanna spend 48 with her. That kinda prolonged closeness can really accelerate the relationship (rarely) or cause it to blow up like the Boston Marathon Bombing. yeah, you'll probably get laid (unless she feels pressure from her friends to be "good") but you shouldn't need to go away for a weekend to do so.
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I would spend $50 a month on an 8
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