I wasn't saying I spend 40k/month going out, just how much it normally costs me when I do go out. But if you are going out 12x per month, its not unreasonable to spend 40k/month. And no, I don't do hookers or drugs.

WTF is the matter with you?

are u saying that u disagee that a night out in bkk will cost somewhere between 3 and 5k? depending on where u go etc

thats got nothing to do with hookers and drugs. sukhumvit bars and clubs can be quite expensive.

anyway i am off to try and beat some donks and win bkk hooker money

I've been living in Thailand for a bit over 2 years. Here is a "minimal" cost break down in my mind. I will also include the higher prices of things that people often pay to help explain why there is so much disagreement over what can be done out here:

Rent: 5000 baht at the lowest. This will get you a room with bathroom. It will be really simple but not totally unlivable or anything. Not having a kitchen is really not the end of the world in Thailand since you will likely eat out all the time anyway. 10,000 to 15,000 baht for mid range (with or without roommates). This will get you a place that is reasonably nice with most appliances and furniture that is overall decent. Not great stuff but certainly reasonably nice. This is the price range I've always lived in and, for the price, it has been *way* nicer than back home for the same rent price. 25,000+ baht for a nice place (or like 20k each with roommate). This place will begin to be quite nice inside - bordering on "baller" but not too huge or anything. It'll just be really upscale. 40,000+ baht for a truly nice place that will impress people easily. It'll have everything nice that you could want and then a couple of luxuries that aren't even expected.

Utilities: Internet can be 600 to 2,700. The 600 package will work fine for poker and torrents. The nicer package is probably worthwhile if you care a lot about gaming. Power can be as low as 600 baht a month. This will let you run lights, computer and fan at will - but not just being wasteful. It can also be up to 4,500 baht a month if you live alone. With roommates this will be cheaper. This level of power will mean you use the AC 24/7 and are careless about leaving lights on and whatnot. Other utilities are almost a non-factor - maybe a few hundred baht a month.

Visas - The cheapest visa options can prob be done for quite cheap if done right. For short to medium term stays this will cost almost nothing (maybe 1000 baht a month on average if planned well). For long term stays you are likely going to want to get a student visa for ~20,000 baht for a year - I really believe that this is the cheapest way of doing it. People often have more expensive visa options but that is a total luxury and is not really a "visa" expense anymore. I fly 3 ever months to a new place and stay at nice hotels. This is obv expensive but is not really a "cost of living" thing.

I don't know how much transportation in BKK costs. But for living elsewhere you can own a motorbike for effectively ~500 baht a month if you want to do it as cheaply as possible (buy a decent one used for a fair price). Some guys either buy new (like me) or rent which will drive the cost up. Buying new will probably run ~1,000 baht a month depending on how long you stay out here. Renting will cost ~2,500 a month or a bit less if you find a good deal... but this is your only real option for short term stays.

Food can be done for as cheaply as ~120 baht a day if you really wanted to do that. That would mean eating 4 cheap, basic Thai meals every day. This is not actually bad tasting or anything and I believe people could actually do it. So that would be 3,600 a month. Alternatively, some guys spend a lot on food because they eat at nicer places, shop for imported food at western markets and order delivery a lot. I spend about 15,000 a month on food - but probably spend more than most other people.

Anyway I think this about sums up what the "basic cost of living" is. On the one extreme a guy can spend 5,000 a month for rent, 600 for internet, 600 for power, 500 for motorbike, 1,600 for visa, 3,600 for food and 300 for other utilities. That would come to a whopping total of 12,200 baht a month for the "basics". Maybe you could point out where I am being a little too optimistic in some places and so let's call it even 13,500. That will get you a *decent* lifestyle that would make plenty of people perfectly happy. You could also get plenty of girls still from something like Thaifriendly and never have to go out drinking to do that if you didn't want to.

If you like drinking a lot you can do that reasonably cheaply if you're smart about it as well. Go to places where a beer is 60 baht. If you drink every day of the month at 6 beers a night this will run you a remarkably small 10,800 baht. This *won't* get you into some trendy or flashy place at all and there will be nothing baller about it. Alternatively, a guy can easily end up spending 5,000 in a night on drinks + hookers at the more upscale places.... and this same drinking every day lifestyle could end up costing another, different person 150,000 baht a month.

I've outlined a budget and lifestyle where you can be a total alcoholic degen (assuming you find your girls on thaifriendly) that would run a guy easily less than 25,000 baht a month. And I am sure that this is exactly what a ton of guys coming to Thailand would be looking for. Obv if a guy only has exactly this amount of money I would suggest not coming out here. But if you're making $1,500 a month playing internet poker and want to live on that in Thailand: rest assured, you can very easily do it!

Or go to 7-11 or family mart, where it is even cheaper then that.

I'm curious as to why you think meting girls on this website, is even cheaper then meting them in person/at clubs and bars.

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Thaifriend is free, sir! That is a price that is hard to beat.

anyone train @ weight lifting gyms in bkk, prices etc?

That is a price that is hard to beat, I agree with you completely sir!

However, I am reminded of a saying my Grandfather always used to have.

'There is no such thing as a free meal."

What he really meant is, nothing is truly free.

And by that logic I would ask you, seriously.

The site may be free sure,

But what girl is ever truly free for us guys?

We all end up paying, weather its £20 for a hooker, or £200 on taking a girl on a few dates before you get her in the sack etc

And by that math, we should go with the hooker. But I can tell you from experience, South East Asian girls are usually easier then that, one date should be sufficient.

I gotta be honest, that phrase tilts me pretty hard. All the old boys that have lost hope of ever pulling a regular chick use that one.

well it does hold truth. I mean if you went up to a girl and asked her for the sexers she would prob slap you in the face. Unless your meet a s1ut in a club or event, you will usually gotta spend some money before you get em in the sack. Having a gf you pay in time, commitment, scarfaices. The experience is more real in most cases compared to paying a hooker for her services.

But we all pay, just in different ways 99% of the time.


Funny ehough i met a 40 year old guy who told me the "we all pay" line. he was okay looking i thought and could be able to get girls

yeah i know that .

I knew it, I knew hookers were included in the monthly budget of you older guys.

Maybe that's what makes your monthly spending so mucg more then mine.

Well I'm 40 ish mate and I mostly don't have a problem pulling reg chicks away from the hooker areas. I'm not getting the 20 yo hotties though More the 30 yo milfs which suits me anyway

Well I don't live there, but I know a ton of older guys that do and they deffo budget for it, right down to a specific number of LT/ST's per month!

Also at 40ish I don't consider myself old just yet!

Ah..but I didn't say old, just older. I'm only 23 myself, so you are definitely older then me.

It's different in Philippines though. I've always thought, Thailand is better for young expats, and Philippines is better for middle aged and older expats. Because in Philippines not only is it easy for older foreign guys to get young chicks, I actually thibk it's easier for them to, then younger guys to, over all.

pretty sure every1 that was responding wasnt including whores.

I would also guess that ur not quite the ladiesman u are making out to be.

but your a liar if u say u sleep with girls from bkk nightclubs but claim that they have never asked for money in the morning

Many of the guys living in Chiang Mai are younger and overall it is a pretty good looking bunch. A lot of them are not paying anything for girls - and I really mean that! One is even shipping a gogo girl for free... and she insists on paying for everything when they go out.

CM is very different from bangkok....damn i miss chiang mai no1 place in thailand to live imo

Woah man, I'm not trying to get personal here, just accurate.

And as I said, if it doesn't include whores or drugs, what is it you spend so much on?

I didn't say anything about being some incredible ladies man, and I called myself reasonably handsome, not a stone cold stud or anything like that.

Fact still stands, I have had plenty of sex in Thailand without spending much money on it. That's not a brag, just a fact. And no, I don't think that makes me special, my point only is that you can still get laid plenty, without spending a ton of money.

Everything ok bro? Wasn't trying to personally insult you or anyone else, not sure why it seems you are coming after me.

lol guess i came accross a tad strong. it just seemed a bit ridic for any1 that has lived in somewhere like bkk for a long time and goes to clubs yet has never had a girl ask for money. most girls that go to bars and clubs where farrang hang out are working girls

also in chiang mai there are decent bars where the thai students go which farrang can go and pick up. In bkk the places that thai students go to u dont see any farrang at all.

i dont live in bkk btw i go there from time to time so i know the nightlife there... bars/clubs ur likely to pick up legit girls that speak english is RCA and mayb ratchada soi c..possibly khao san i guess. mayb there are other areas

hope my misses doesnt read this forum lol

I am fully confident that if I lived in BKK I would have a *much* easier time getting even more girls than I do in CM. It is not hard here but the pool in BKK would just be massive. When I get on Thaifriendly there are just a ridiculous number of girls who message me from Bangkok - and no, they aren't all hookers.

lol what are the other guys shipping then if a gogo girl is an accomplishment?