https://www.stickboybkk.com/news/sui...an-in-pattaya/

Suicide lol, this sorta thing gotta be what ILIA jerks off to

Little known fact that on the same progressive bill that had medical marijuana, Thailand also passed assisted suicide.
Poor guy was probably terminally ill
So technically was a suicide.
JFC
How do they report this **** with a straight face.

Do you really think that anyone investigates the death of a random foreigner pushed off his balcony by some crazy meth head prostitute?

It's ruled as suicide and that's it and if you know how crazy a lot of thai women are (every second foreigner involved with thai women has tales of knife attacked by an ex, penis amputation by crazy thai women world leader etc.) this happens way more than you think.

Everything gets swept under the rug because murder and mayhem is bad for biz, but rest be assured guys with high testosterone and psycho women that hate assertive men are a bad combination...

Police is on their side, condo security can be bribed with a couple baht (happens to lots of guys that a crazy thai woman stands suddenly infront of your door), breakups means to a lot of crazy thai women that they need to murder you as revenge etc.

Also with condo security, building management, random moto drivers and street cooks at least 30% actively hate westerners. Partially out of jealousy, partially bad experiences with white trash types, partially not adhering to local culture of "taking care of the small man with handouts" etc. so don't expect any of these to help you and more likely actively assist predatory types...

It's a volatile animal kingdom where the thai will always side against you and should not be confused with a civilized place...

Some people also make really terrible decisions in the women they choose to date.

read that report twice

just casually mentioned his hands being bound like that was a normal suicide thing and didn't warrant further reflection

It's not just about dating. If you're involved in P4P a lot of hookers get jealous if you go with some other girl and might attack her / you. Lots of crazy psycho women in Thailand...

I had to skip the 7-11 next to my place for example as the head hen working there that saw me as her mealticket had a meltdown cussing her out when I showed up with another girl some day. Good luck getting these crazy women fired. Thais will always side against you or won't bother for fear of getting murdered / falsely accused / slandered all over town by them. That's why you see so many crazy nasty women in all kinds of low level positions in Bangkok these days.

As for dating, thai women are hardly ever normal by western standards. Super clingy, going through your stuff as soon as you turn your back, always expecting scumbag scammer type activities from you that they expect from their fellow thai criminals etc.

For sure there is bad luck out there but I've found mostly you reap what you sow.

It's ****ing crazy

Reap what you sow in Thailand = not giving in to predatory scammy scumbag types that will murder you then as revenge or not sticking to a single predatory mate guarding prostitute.

You can't always avoid dealing with them and the average westerner isn't exactly in tune with the hyper sensitive child like nature of thais.

Lots of westerners get murdered in Thailand over spare change and petty arguments where in retrospect the western guy should've just given in and walked away but it was one thai scammer too many so he didn't feel like it...

Really? Is that a thing in Thailand? I had never heard of this, please explain more.

Before believing anything he replies to this at face value take a few min to check his post history. Not saying this point in particular is or isn't true, but ILIA has a hate for Thailand and Thai people that is probably bigger than the hate Hitler had for Jews, so his opinion doesn't come from an objective observation of Thai culture but from that place of pain and bigotry.

Yes, I get that sense from his posts too but I also happen to agree with a lot of his views.

I think most people woefully underestimate the amount of xenophobia that most countries have. Thailand has been consistently named as one of the most xenophobic countries on earth; they will proudly remind you that they are one of the few Asian countries not colonized by western countries.

We are all just temporary guests in each other's countries. They mostly just want you to drop your money and go back home as quickly as possible. So, while ILIA may come off as bitter, I haven't seen him post many things that are just blatantly wrong/bad.

ILIA, you are a constant ray of sunshine, in these troubling times. Dont ever change!

tbf that's a sick flex

They briefly joined forces with Hitler and the Axis powers and declared war on Britain and the US during WWII. If they didn't Japan would've colonized them

Western culture = everybody takes care of himself and only close relatives or the government will help you out in terms of unemployment benefits / welfare.

Thailand / SEA = lower class people do their best to make themselves useful to anyone, especially people higher up the food chain and unspokenly expect support in return.

Whether this came natural or whether the ethnic chinese elites of South East Asia installed this system of patronage and corruption I don't know, but that's how things work all over South East Asia.

If you seem to have money and don't spread it by employing maids, helping them out in family matters, going to restaurants in your condo / around your place if people working there see you coming and going / not giving cigs and liquor to guards / not attempting to help out people you're in touch with around you with whatever you can within reason, then you're viewed as an antisocial ******* that deserves bad things happen to you.

You basically want a small army of people that view you as useful, helpful and decent that will side with you when predators come around.

Mark Wiens of YouTube fame (https://www.youtube.com/user/migrationology) is a good example although he is half chinese and could be thai in appearance in theory to thais I guess?

The hungry syrian wanderer https://www.youtube.com/c/TheHungryS...anderer/videos is pretty much the youtube handout king in the Philippines.

Westerners would view it as shameful to receive handouts from strangers but in SEA it's pretty much a culture which the upper classes uses to fortify their status. (low salaries but largely easy work and lots of handouts + help with family issues)

I don't hate anyone, I just warn people that Thailand is quite dangerous and the vast majority of locals don't want you there unless you dress like the upper class, run a business and assume upper class responsibilities.

If you want to be tolerated as a regular long term expat that doesn't open a business (largely a money sink + people might murder you to take it from you or come up with angles to extort from you) or wants to support everybody and his mom while making sure he never puts himself over higher up thais it's best to go elsewhere.

Live in central BKK where it's a bit more westernized and anonymous and move condo every year. Even within the space of one year I had security and street vendors tell girls 'he have many girl' but nothing worse than that. Most murders happen on the islands where there are local mafias

In 2008 or so I lived relatively unbothered but nowadays everybody is all up in your business whether in BKK or Chiang Mai and everybody is always watching and jumping to conclusions / making up libel and slander because you aren't slave to a thai family and have enough spare change to stay for a while.

If for some crazy reason you still want to be in Thailand I would strongly recommend against becoming a regular customer in any restaurant / coffee shop, being seen in public with girls or having girls come over to your place when guards / receptionists are paying attention. (before 8pm in my last condo)

You basically have to live like a criminal on the run, which is pretty sad, but safer than becoming a known quantity to xenophobic low income thais working as waitresses, 7-11 workers etc. that see you as a potential meal ticket whose life they need to intrude by force / evil foreign criminal on the run if you aren't letting them into your life.

Pattaya is pretty much a mafia city, but those in control stay in the background. They value face (safe holiday whoremonger destination) over legit investigations of crimes against foreigners, so you're pretty much on your own when it comes to ensuring your safety.

No, you don't have to live like a criminal on the run. I been living in the same soi for the past 3 years, eating at the restaurant right across from my house almost daily, buying my coffee at the same spot almost daily too and I'm alive and well, enjoying the experience a lot and never had an issue with any thai person whatsoever. I'm a huge white man so I don't go unnoticed, everyone in the neighborhood knows where I live and yet I survived so far unscratched. Have a bunch of expat friends that live just like I do, in moo bans, condos or houses, some bring different girl every night out, some have long term gf's, some change their gf every a couple months, and yet they have never been threatened, they never had any issue with mafias, extortion or any of the like. Once again, not saying this doesn't happen at some places and with some people (that probably is the kind of people you hang out with/focus on), but you say it in a way that may mislead people into thinking Thailand is worse than Raqqa under ISIS and THIS IS 100% NOT TRUE.

I am deeply sorry for whatever thai people did to you and I'd love to hear your story as someone requested earlier on the thread, because surely there has to be something in your past that is fueling this OTT claims about Thailand and thai people that in my experience and that of most (if not all) the expats I deal with on daily basis (football teammates, gym buddies, english teachers, thai language classmates, other poker players, employees of foreign companies that operate in Thailand, etc) is NOT TRUE.

I have a reason to defend Thailand and contradict your OTT claims as living in Thailand has been a great experience for me and, once again, a lot of people I interact with everyday that chose this country as their home away from home, a place to settle down and raise a family or just a place to stay for a few years, so I imagine you must have a reason similar to mine but on the other end of the spectrum to attack it and make these claims every time you have a chance. Please let us know so we can know where you're coming from and why you hate the country so much.

Have USD on Pokerkings or EcoPayz for THB if anyone needs

Would like to know too.

Have lived (both in tourist and locals areas)/traveled all over the country, majority of time spent in bkk.
Don't have any such negative experiences nor have i heard from friends or people i know either.

Maybe if you run a bar in patts its a different story.

must admit i would love to be stuck in thailand for a few months right now

I've had the same experience; been here since 2009.

Been in Thailand almost 8 years, living all over the place, never had issues. Only thing tilting af is driving a car in this country.