I think your original ticket will be fine. If they refuse entry you're not getting on that Cambodian flight, you have to fly back using the same airline.

I think it'd be ok, I've heard they do get alerts to scrutinize certain people but then the guy (avoid the girl officers) would make the decision himself and see that you hadn't been there for a year and let you in

Worse comes to worse I hear if you don't agree to sign the Thai language form they give you when denied entry you are allowed to book a flight to any destination, but if you sign it it means you're agreeing to pay for the airport detention cell (800/day) and to get deported back on the same airline. That's according to some guy on a forum who was able to refuse and they let him deal with a flight rep to fly elsewhere. Flying to vientiane and using that border would be better as the poipet border refuses people more often, or use one of the other cambodia borders

Have your GF ready to be phoned at your arrival time, sometimes a supervisor decides to let people in when a Thai GF says they're not working in the country and just a tourist. I'd use the original flight printout as that'd look more convincing, they are getting wise to cheap / rented flight tickets out. And then your GF's story won't conflict with how long you're staying

Do you mind explaining why you may not be welcome?

I thought they just kind of let anyone in so this is very surprising to hear.

Tourist arrivals down 50% or so and they still want to deny entry.

Go figure...

i said years ago they are going to get tough on farang tourists.

We're welcome it's just from their point of view someone young and not married who uses free 30 day stamp and $40 sixty day visas all year round might not have any money and end up taking a job away from a Thai or turn to crime

Then they don't want a huge influx of low grade foreigners which they'd get if they had allowed people to stay for like $500/year like neighbouring countries do because it's nicer to stay in than those

So they try to quality control a bit by setting the bar at $16k up front per 5 years, or $32k for 20 years (the thai elite card), after people have stayed long enough for legit tourism, which they consider about 4-5 months a year.

It'd be nice if they made it like $2k/year or just let under 50s show proof of savings and income to stay like Malaysia does, and keep your money, but they went for the $16-32k nonrefundable cash grab.

They did used to kinda have something like that, if you invested enough in Thai stocks or property, but it was a bit greedy amount over twice that of Malaysia, $310k, then they'd give you an investment visa to stay long term but they don't do that anymore afaik, or it's unheard of because no one wants to invest that much here

I read something recently somewhere and the guy made a good point. When he 1st came to Thailand he was a hippy backpacker or a "low grade" tourist but he enjoyed his time and was welcomed at the time. He eventually became more wealthy when he go a real job and returned to Thailand for vacation throughout the years as a "high grade" tourist.
A certain % of these youngsters will become successful and they are your future high quality tourists so you shouldn't F with them.

That's what I thought - who's crazy enought to even go there these days. I got denied just after mass shooting, not to mention coronavirus and expensive baht etc.

Not sure if I'm willing to take a risk to be force sent back to Finland. I can't stand flying and it's gonna be a long flight back + super expensive airline company (i got some promo offer).

Thinking about just giving up already spent money. Fuuuuck!

There is a lurker in this thread I chatted with recently. He was a one year blacklist because of overstay, came back shortly after the year expired on a 30 day exempt, Immigration officer called his gf, yelled at them both for not having a visa (return flight was 5+ months after arrival), then stamped him in. He then proceeded to do 3 (or 4?) back to back 30 day visa runs eventually getting an IO to write under his stamp that he cannot return to Thailand without a visa. Then on his return to Thailand a (few months to a year later?) the Thai embassy in the states saw what was written in his passport so they issued him a 3 month visa.
Most likely you fly in on a visa exempt and you're fine

But the immigration detention center is not a place you want to spend any time at all
https://thethaiger.com/world/regiona...ntion-centre-1

Thais just want westerners gone - period.

They want a nation of destitute obedient peasants like in the Philippines.

Lots of big egos compared to pre smartphone days.

Restaurant and coffeeshop owners think you owe them reverence and large scale consumption for going to their establishment and **** talk you to your face in thai with their colleagues while giving you a **** eating grin. Nasty and delusional people.

Everything is propped up with credit and once that's gone these people will realize that Thailand barely had any real local economy beyond tourism and agriculture to begin with.

All these pattaya grandpas with their oh so legit visas and anti youngster lynch mob mentality doing their oh so illegal digital nomad work had it coming though.

Now the bar is raised so high only few western retirees can legally remain.

cancel the trip. lesson learned. they'll send you back most likely.

in future, don't bother taking your money to thailand go to other places in the region, or don't fly direct to bangkok if you absolutely must go to thailand.

thailand is over. you missed it.

I can still buy separate ticket to next flight to Laos and go straight to connecting flights area and skip Suvarnabhumi immigration that way, right? Just can't bring checked-in baggage.

So I can either try to get tourist visa in Laos or just use land border or use AirAsia etc, so they can't make me use that overpriced airline company for returning in case of not letting me to enter Thailand.

you could do that. there's risk involved if your flight is delayed. also find out whether all gates in suvarnabhumi are accessible when connecting. i wouldn't be comfortable doing that landing in a country where i'll likely be denied entry if forced to go through immigration.


airasia fly out of don muang.

If it fails he can still book a transfering flight to any other country in the region that he can reach without going through immigration. I wouln't be afraid to risk this personally.

I thought they made you fly back to your country of origin?
Maybe that's old news

Apparently some people get flown back to the departure airport on the same airline (so not necessarily your own country) if they sign the Thai language forms they give you, some get handed over to a flight rep to book a ticket anywhere if they don't, and recently some people report being able to bribe the supervisors or buy them stuff from duty free in order to be let in, not sure if those are troll threads on thaivisa or because the economy is bad

I'd be happy to risk it as well

If I neither sign form or buy a ticket voluntarily - is it at least a freeroll if they force someone to fly back? I'm responsibilty of airline who flew me there, right?

Maybe you fly to a neighbouring country first that will grant you a visa that way your in Asia at least?

Starting to live up to your name

If you think there is a high risk to be denied entry you might consider flying to neighboring country and then use land border to cross. Those are considered safe.
Take a night train from Malaysia or fly to Vientiane in Laos and take a bus to the border and try to cross there.

Thats like a much safer way to do it. Land borders are considered safe. Maybe get a deal with some Visa run company that does Runs to Vientianne coming back with a group like this might be the safest option as they usually bribe imigrations along the way to smooth things out.

Not sure, never heard of anyone trying that.

Google suvarnabhumi transit it looks possible to fly to malaysia / laos without going through immigration then come in by land border, I've never done it though

what is the most lax embassy in the region for a tourist visa nowadays?

been getting mine in hcm. most recent one was after corona started but had a recent 8 day overstay and previous 89 day overstay. plus they have direct every other day flights between pattaya airport (gto no denial airport) and hcm

for me thailand is great, my biggest complaint is right now in high season 2 hookers i fell in love with after first bang brushed me off when i messaged for repeat because 'hab customer'