lol yeah totally not a scam...

Recently the guy I rent my bike off had a customer who rented a bike, literally jumps on it, yolos to the wrong side of the street, and crashes into a Thai. The owners Thai wife speaks to Thai guy and they arrange a 300bht fee(there is a bump on the Thais bike), another Thai overhears and tells the guy to 'Get more from farang', to which he starts saying he has a wrist injury. Next thing the police are called, bro ends up getting 600bht which he is delighted with.

So I kinda agree with ITT, yea they get abit hustly but for the amount is usually kinda cute, for example, imagine the same situation occurs in Europe, I imagine you're talking $$$$.

The bum gun is the truth, I'm in Japan ATM and gutted they don't have it , no toilet paper required, just spray and go, every now and again if you're in a disco you'll spot a girl with a big wet patch on her ass from bum gun abuse.

Dude, Japan is the rolls Royce of bum guns. Adjustable water temps, different spray actions, deodorant, etc...

just tell them you will go get it fixed yourself, getting most things fixed on a bike is dirt cheap if you go to a repair shop yourself. Or, if you're in bangkok and are known to the motorbike taxis outside your condo you can give them 100b to take it to get fixed

In the Japanese porns the chicks usually use the bum gun to wet their light colored semi see thru shirts during the foreplay/tease part of the video, they don't use it on their bums at all.

But just like anywhere else, there is probably quite a line between Japanese porn and Japanese reality. ... Unfortunately.

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Aw dam, admittedly I've been staying in hostels so far#lol69wasright, you've got me excited now.

Legit fu I was eating

Found the Thai Twitch

http://live.afreeca.tv/

lol that kinda hypocrisy isnt limited to him.
In Dali China i had a similar thing with an ebike. came back and they said yhere was a scratch and kept the US16 deposit. no way id give them my passport.
the next day at another place i took like ten pics of the bike on my phone before setting out so they couldnt try that.

That's really backward way of thinking about things. I do not agree with you for a second. Just because things are cheaper does not grant anybody rights to behave like a criminal. It surely is a scam because they are not transparent to the customer at all. They make stuff up about scratches then try to massively overcharge you for it. I mean do they really expect that a scooter is not going to get any wear and tear?

They are trying to charge each and everyone that rents a bike, its not just a few 100 baht, I have read about stories for 20k baht but most were for 5 or 10k. Thats absurd, I mean you can buy those bikes for 20k baht. They are charging for wear and tear and that should be included in the rental price in my opinion.

I'd of thought that **** would fly everywhere once you use water pressure, and that bacteria jumps all over the place, is this not true? Then you have to deal with a wet bum as well lol. I hear people say it is cleaner then toilet paper but I am not so sure. Lol about the girl bum gun abuse.

It's crash and 600 baht is cheap in my opinion. As you say it is probably not the going rate but in this case but I can get on board with 600 baht. If this happened in Ko Tao and you brought the bike back with minor scruffs and scratches or they witness you crashing expect the owners of the bike to say 20k baht not 600.

Might be cute when it's 600 baht. Not so cute when it's 5,000-10,000 baht and the farang wasn't even involved but happened to be in the general vicinity.

Baby wipes is the nuts, if you dont mind carrying them around. Otherwise, bum gun gets you more clean than paper without any comparison.

I think ITT666 is trolling a bit At least, I hope so.

Its not whether you should pay for your damages, but whether you should pay more, because of your skin color.

In the case you stated the money in itself is insignificant, its the principle of the thing. But As SM7 mentioned, there are many stories about severe ovr charging, often from damages that was already on the bike (or jetski)

Not trolling. It's not backwards thinking either. I understand we don't like to cop to it, but everything about out continued existence in these countries is built on socio-economic inequities between us as first world citizens and them as third world citizens.

If you guys don't think that's true, then ask yourself/explain to me why you chose Thailand or the Philippines or Cambodia or even China instead of choosing another wealthy European country or the U.S. or Canada or AUS to settle in/live in?


Whatever your answer is, it's likely built on an inequity between first and third world that you are exploiting, whether you know/like to admit it or not.

Why do you think it is exploiting if one person chooses to live in a cheaper country than his/her home country?

Not all Western countries are expensive either, it also depends on location in those countries, example take the UK, London is very expensive to live but if you live in most other cities in the country it is quite affordable, it's even cheaper when you live in smaller towns outside of main cities. I am sure some parts of these "third world" countries you mention can rival and be even more expensive then the western countries you talk about.

I am not making the link to exploitation that you are making between living in an expensive country or choosing to live in a cheaper country. How exactly are we exploiting these people, they set their price and we pay it, be it food, woman or scooter rentals. If anything we are being exploited, especially in those countries that have different prices for locals and foreigners. That really pisses me off.

I think you are misusing the word "exploiting" as if we were really exploiting them then we would be underpaying their asking price. Or as in the good old days, just take their land and woman and kill off anybody that's a nuisance.

Also we the west have brought so many inventions to the rest of the world, I'm pretty sure they have benefited greatly from us too. Such things go unnoticed and usually are given away.

somebody got WOKE ITT.

In the eyes of many of the locals we are doing this still. Ok, obviously not to the full degree. But I bet a lot of local men do look at us as coming in and taking their women. They look at us young guys as doing it with our exotic western looks and bigger dicks than many of the locals and the older guys as doing it with their superior financial positions to most of the locals. But see what you aren't getting is that, that right there is a form of exploitation. That's an inequity that we are taking advantage of.

You can't deny that there are inequities present that we are taking advantage of, if you don't want to go so far as calling that exploitation well ok that's up to you...but really it is.

Look I'm not saying I'm any better than you are, I take advantage of all of this as well. It's just that at least I'm willing to acknowledge it, you could try to do the same.

Or keep living with the same false narratives as most other white guys here live with, the kinds of false narrative that allows British expats here to cheer on the Brexit decision back home while making the same complaints about the locals here that you are making without even beginning to recognize the extreme hypocrisy in that.

Alright you know what, let's take the politics out of this and make it purely about economics, the free market, and individual rights.


If I have wares/goods that currently belong to me, my property and I want to sell them to you ...I get to charge you whatever price I damn well please. That's my right, my prerogative.

If your friend comes along and wants to buy the same goods, I can charge him whatever I want to charge...even if that's a different price than the one I quoted you.

Is that fair/ethical of me? Perhaps not, but this isn't kindergarten and we aren't little 6 year old girls, we are full grown adult men, so fu cking deal with it, it's reality.

Is it smart business by me? Probably not, but the free market will decide all, so if it's bad business by me ultimately the market will punish me for it, by seeing all my potential customers go to someone else.


The Thais didn't ask you to come to their country, many of them don't want you in their country at all. None of them forced you to go there, none of them are forcing you to stay there and none of them would lose a second of sleep over it of you were to leave tomorrow and never come back.

It's their country, not yours. You don't have the rights and right to expectations there that you seem to believe you do. You are a guest there. They are graciously allowing you to stay there. They don't have to be doing that.

It's not your home, you aren't one of them, you aren't part of their land and their community, you are a farang. No matter how long you may live there for you will always be a guest, a farang guest and nothing else, nothing more.

This applies for all of us by the way, not saying it's just you.

Bottom line is...

It's their country. They can do what they want in their country, and it's not up to you. If they want to charge you a different price than they charge their fellow countrymen well that is their right and their prerogative. They can do that.

You don't have to like it, but then you know what...

Once again, no one is forcing you to live in Thailand, you're choosing to do so of your own free will.

If you aren't happy with something there your options are

1. Shut up, man up and just fu cking deal with it.

2. Decide you just can't accept it and try to do something to change it (lol, good luck with that.)

3. GTFO of the country. (like I said none of the Thais will miss you, it's absolutely fine by them if you take this option.)


You apparently chose option 4, which is to bitch and moan about it on an internet message board. That's a common option chosen, you are far from the first to choose it, only problem with this option is it doesn't change one thing, not one damn thing.

If you actually want to do something about the problem, I suggest choosing one of options 1-3. Probably 1 or 3. 2 would solve the problem in the way you want but that would first require you convincing Thais to actually listen to the opinion of a farang as to how they should do things in their own country, and you're never going to achieve that.

So I'd suggest 1 or 3.

da fuq are you clowns talking about? It's absolutely a scam. If the person wants to charge a Thai and a foreigner different prices that is fine AS LONG AS THEY ARE UP FRONT ABOUT IT.

If they decide to charge the different price by telling the foreigner they will charge one price and then come payment time they invent a reason to charge more... that's a scam.

About 95% of what is being posting is completely irrelevant to this topic...

er...uhhh....you're kinda contradicting yourself.

you would lose that bet.


Most farang end up with the lowest 20% of thai women(in thai eyes). divorcees, hookers, former hookers, girls that have a kid already, etc. Thai friends have asked me why farang always go for dark ugly girls, and I've had to explain to them that its because all the "good" ones are taken by middle-upper class thais and that farang typically don't care if a girl is dark skin and had a husband 5 years ago.

walk down your typical street full of farang like suk soi 11 and you will see the ugliest girls in all of bangkok.

Ok, so the poorer ones (you know the majority of them,) may still look at it the way I described. You probably weren't friends with those ones though.

It's pretty clear a lot of Thais don't like how many farang are living there. What do you think there reason for feeling that way is, just irrational xenophobia and that's it.

I guess it is possible, that's essentially all Trump and his supporters are fueled by.