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Old 01-24-2009, 06:04 AM   #5976
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If you buy very cheap clothes you will have clothes that look very cheap, if you dont mind that its ok. Otherwise the big international brands are about the same price as back home.
I found clothes at places like Zara and Guess(the only 2 stores I had been to enough to know ballpark prices) were more expensive then they are back home.
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:24 AM   #5977
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I found clothes at places like Zara and Guess(the only 2 stores I had been to enough to know ballpark prices) were more expensive then they are back home.
unpossible. everything in paragon is always on sale!
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:36 AM   #5978
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I found clothes at places like Zara and Guess(the only 2 stores I had been to enough to know ballpark prices) were more expensive then they are back home.
Yeah without discount I think a lot of the big brands were a bit more expensive than home ( Canada for me ). The thing is most of the time you will have discount ranging from 20-60 % on some of the stores clothes.
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:47 AM   #5979
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MBK, MBK!!
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:32 AM   #5980
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haha CLASSIC miriam

interesting article, probably easier to read if you just click the link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7847370.stm

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Honeymoon to nightmare for Thai PM



By Jonathan Head
BBC News, Bangkok


If new Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva thought he was going to get any kind of honeymoon, the events of the past week will have come as a rude surprise.

Abhisit Vejjajiva owes his job in part to the military

His government has found itself floundering amid public relations disasters over which it has very little control. First, the damning testimony from survivors, telling of the brutal treatment given to asylum-seekers from the Burmese Rohingya minority by the Thai security forces, who set almost 1,000 of them adrift on the high seas last month in boats with no motors, and little food or water.

Then the trial of an Australian writer on charges of insulting the monarchy, in a self-published book which sold only seven copies.
The haunting pictures of a tearful Harry Nicolaides, shaven-headed and shackled behind bars as he awaited a three-year prison sentence, has prompted condemnation from around the world of the severity of Thailand's lese majeste law.

Both incidents undercut the promise of fairer, more open and more accountable government made in the new prime minister's early speeches.
Military defiant
Reports that the Rohingya boat people were being dealt with far more harshly than other illegal immigrants began to surface at the end of last year.
But it was only when the BBC and other media were able to speak last week to survivors who washed up in the Andaman Islands and Indonesia's Aceh province that the full horror of what the Thai military is alleged to have been doing became apparent.


At that moment we understood that, instead of taking us to jail, they intended to send us to high sea


Bangladeshi refugee

Researchers from The Arakan Project, an NGO campaigning for the welfare of the Rohingyas, have managed to speak to a second group who were set adrift by the Thai military in late December.
"We had sailed for about two weeks when we were caught at sea by the Thai navy," one 20-year-old man from Shaporidip in Bangladesh said.
"They stopped us and pointed their guns at us. Then they towed our boat at gunpoint to a hilly island, where we found about 300 other detainees guarded by the army. These people had been captured earlier from two boats. They all looked very weak and hungry.
"We were all kept in one area under the open sky on the hill. None of us could communicate with the army or the navy. Sometimes we were beaten and I was not spared," he went on.
"On the third night on the island, around 10 or 11pm, the army took us downhill to the shore and showed us several boats. We thought that they would take us to the mainland and send us to jail. They pushed us to get on and filled four boats. They gave us two pieces of bamboo and one plastic sheet. At that moment we understood that, instead of taking us to jail, they intended to send us to high sea.
"They tied each of the four boats with a separate rope to a large navy ship and towed us throughout the night and the entire following day towards the west, to the high sea. There was no engine in any of the four boats."
The rope was cut, he said, and they drifted for eight days, before landing, exhausted and severely dehydrated, on the Andaman Islands.
The Thai military's response to these allegations has been to deny that they are even possible.

It's clear the military has undue leverage over the Abhisit government, and this undermines his entire morality-based platform


Thitinan Pongsudirak
Chulalongkorn University

The navy chief told journalists this was so clear no investigation was even necessary.
The local commander of the Internal Security Operations Command (ISOC), which has been holding the Rohingyas, also insisted, against the weight of evidence, that his men had not mistreated the boat people.
No-one should be surprised at the Thai military's defiance.
That local ISOC commander, Colonel Manas Kongpan, was also one of three military officers a court ruled were responsible for the massacre of 32 Muslim men in southern Thailand five years ago.
But no attempt has been made to punish him, or any other officer for alleged abuses in the south.
Blocked websites
Mr Abhisit has this week promised an investigation into the fate of the Rohingyas.
But in the face of such opposition from his military commanders, this seems unlikely to reveal much truth.

Australian writer Harry Nicolaides is hoping for a pardon from the king

In fact the difficulty Mr Abhisit has encountered in getting information from ISOC about another group of 126 Rohingyas it detained last Friday suggests he will get very little co-operation from the armed forces.
For six days the military stonewalled the government - despite the fact that Mr Abhisit is officially the commander of ISOC.
The foreign ministry has struggled to explain to journalists why the government cannot say where the missing 126 boat people are, despite an official request from the UN refugee agency to see them.
On Friday, the government was bluntly told by the local ISOC commander that the 126 had gone.
No-one seems sure where, but the foreign ministry official I spoke to thought they had been pushed back out to sea.
The reason Mr Abhisit can do little about this embarrassing situation is that he owes his job at least in part to the military.
It was pressure from the army commander General Anupong Paochinda in December that helped persuade political factions to desert the previous government and back Mr Abhisit's bid to become prime minister.
"The bargain the Democrats have made with the military is constraining them," says Thitinan Pongsudirak, from Chulalongkorn University.
"It's clear the military has undue leverage over the Abhisit government, and this undermines his entire morality-based platform."
It also gives him few options to address the problematic lese majeste law.
He has acknowledged that the law is sometimes used inappropriately and needs to be looked at, while insisting the monarchy still needs its protection.
But it is the military which is now driving the law's enforcement, with commanders demanding that soldiers and police be more vigilant in detecting anti-monarchy sentiment.
As a result thousands of websites are being blocked, Thailand's first internet blogger has been arrested, a prominent academic has been charged and an unlucky Australian writer languishes in jail hoping his plea for a royal pardon is granted.
These are surely not the headlines Mr Abhisit would have wanted to dominate his first month in office.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:48 AM   #5981
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For the 30 day extension on your TV, you just go to the local thai immigration office and apply. as long as you're not covered in blood reeking like booze you will get the extension.

The double entry TV works just like you assumed.
i bet you know that from experience
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:23 PM   #5982
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:24 AM   #5983
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that doesn't make sense if you plan to check out a few of the islands while you're hear. you still have to pack whatever you buy. plus it will just make you look like a cheap clueless farang.
you trying to imprees peeple who make 250$ a month?



dress how u want, u a tourist.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:28 AM   #5984
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you trying to imprees peeple who make 250$ a month?



dress how u want, u a tourist.
and i like to dress in comfortable clothes that don't look like trash.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:46 AM   #5985
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FYI guys, the drinking water in Thailand is color-coded by their bottle caps. (it took me a while to figure this out)

The blue caps are mineral water, meaning they've have some vitamins and minerals added to them.

The white caps are distilled water.

Others are reverse osmosis/purified in some other way.

I'd never had problems with cavities before coming to Thailand but then I was eating lots of sugary food and not getting enough flouride. I switched to the blue capped water long ago and did better. Now I use Listerine with flouride a couple of times a day and feel a lot better.
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Old 01-25-2009, 03:16 AM   #5986
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dont know if willyt already wrote about it , but after recomendations from willyT i got the catcom cdma wireless internet yesterday(new house wont have internet for a week or 2) and so far its been good. download speeds between 100-250kb/s, no disconnects so far. startup fee 8k then like 850 each month. tested in both kata and rawai.
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:31 AM   #5987
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you trying to imprees peeple who make 250$ a month?



dress how u want, u a tourist.
If you want to look ridiculous, just buy clothes on the street next to nana or whatever. I dont understand why some people wear trash clothes because they are on holiday out of their country.

Would you really wear 3 $ fake diesel shirts with nondescript pastel shorts and black rubber velcro sandals back home ? Oh, maybe you would yeah.
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Old 01-25-2009, 07:23 AM   #5988
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I've always imagined bkkdude dressed like ****.
paragon shopping ftw imho
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:10 AM   #5989
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I've always imagined bkkdude dressed like ****.
paragon shopping ftw imho
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:35 AM   #5990
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paragon shopping ftw imho
Count me in. Anyone go yesterday?

lol fletch
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:35 AM   #5991
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Count me in. Anyone go yesterday?

lol fletch
Nice one fletch. Soi 11 without spice is blasphemy.

PS: screech you can try the 7th of feb.
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Old 01-25-2009, 04:12 PM   #5992
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Count us in for the REAL finale
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:39 PM   #5993
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3 more days till im in bkk! mak mak i believe is the expression
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:23 PM   #5994
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im finally all packed, plane leaves in a few hours. woooooooot!
think i land tuesday as you skip a day in travel... hoping this place is as awesome as these threads make it.

what is gonna be the best place to try to catch the superbowl next week in bkk? think that **** will be at like 7am bkk time.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:52 PM   #5995
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im finally all packed, plane leaves in a few hours. woooooooot!
think i land tuesday as you skip a day in travel... hoping this place is as awesome as these threads make it.

what is gonna be the best place to try to catch the superbowl next week in bkk? think that **** will be at like 7am bkk time.
lol you're going to either absolutely love or hate BKK, it seems to do that to people. hopefully you have a good time mak mak!

theguy123: how long are you staying for? just in BKK or heading elsewhere?
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:19 PM   #5996
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literally just got into BKK, staying at the dream. hoping to get a cell phone today along with a thai bank account at Kasikorn, and hopefully talking to the people at http://www.bangkok-properties.com/ about getting an apartment asap.

any suggestions on how to make this easier? ive read through this thread a bunch, but getting here and being incredibly out of your element makes things a little more difficult, haha
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:24 AM   #5997
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lol you're going to either absolutely love or hate BKK, it seems to do that to people. hopefully you have a good time mak mak!

theguy123: how long are you staying for? just in BKK or heading elsewhere?
staying for a week in bkk at royal president right next to the dream hotel, then off to phuket. going to be staying a while hopefully 3+ months.

those in bkk pm me we'll hit up soi cowboy or nana or whateva def got a lot to check out and do!
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:32 AM   #5998
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literally just got into BKK, staying at the dream. hoping to get a cell phone today along with a thai bank account at Kasikorn, and hopefully talking to the people at http://www.bangkok-properties.com/ about getting an apartment asap.

any suggestions on how to make this easier? ive read through this thread a bunch, but getting here and being incredibly out of your element makes things a little more difficult, haha

Kasikorn FTW. Bantttooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnn
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:43 AM   #5999
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Oh Banthoon. LOL.
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well it's official i'm apparently unemployable graduating from a top 25 university with a great gpa, so **** everything i'm moving to thailand.
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