Im starting to download this now but I'm not gonna watch it if it's gonna make me feel sad/guilty/shameful!!

here's a youtube link for the Bangkok one

http://www.youtube.com/user/OriginalBangkokBob

I had really mixed feelings about it afterwards, and kind of gave some different perspectives about a few things.

That was a pretty interesting video. Thanks for the link.

v. interesting video. poor girls imo

Basically didn't make me sad/guilty/shameful. I found it entertaining though!

"Women give men pleasure and men give them money, it's a fair deal"

Brilliant.......

thats cos you are canadian

Went out in patong for first time last night. wow.

The club electric blue on patpong 2 is awesome imho.
The small ladyboy place "king's something" is pretty much insane ( 95% of them are cut, nice if you like to check some doctor's work.

Ty for advice.

writing this from golden sand inn hotel in karon and see someone has downloaded pokerstars, loaded it to see user name and its Don Stubbe, which one of you degens is that?

Where should I get tested for STDs in Bangkok and how much do the tests cost?

Muay Thai, which school? I searched the thread and found the Tiger Muay Thai link but I'd prefer something in Bangkok. I read this article. Is it true that the best schools will not take beginners?

You can get those tests at any hospital. I remember their are cheap, its just a simple blood test. Shouldnt come more then 1000 baht i think.

As for muay thai, I think that most schools will take beginners but I dont know. I just looked for 2 or 3 schools on the net once they all seemed to
take beginners.

Ive never worked out muay thai but I always wanted to, let me know if youre interested in going together.

hmmmmmmmmmmm so after viewing the vid it did make me kinda sad but I'm sensitive and I'm sure I'll get over it.

Fun part was when they're like: "Hmmm, why no one come to bar tonight it's not even raining?" Well, maybe it's because there's a guy holding a BIG FU*KING VIDEO CAMERA RIGHT THERE.....

Also wtfffffffffffffffffffff at the "best new foreign husband" pageant?!?!

" What if I dont speal english? " " All you need is the word for beer " wtk

" many girls go with customers and dont get paid but theyre too shy to speak up...so they let the man get away with it... " lol ! anyone?

Thta's a classic. The next day the guy is going to brag about how he gets laid for free. It's even easier to pull with freelancers, but it's a bad thing to do of course.

I need a bath, a cigar a bottle of booze and a hooker right now.

Might go to pattaya sunday night or just out in bkk if i lose my motivation. pm if you want to say hello.

So when you pick up a freelancer in a club. The next morning would you pay her without her asking? Serious question

Being a french gentleman yes i would.

more seriously:

I think there are two cases,
the first one is simple, not much in term of connection between you and the girl, you picked her up, not trying to hide in any way the fact that you want to shag her or even talking about money before the room. Then you pay even if she is too shy too ask.

The second case is more complex. Some girls are not really pro on the game yet they freelance/go to farang pick up areas. If you have to seduce them a bit, if they come to see you, share booze ect... like a normal girl on a night out, then, even if you still have in mind the fact that she's there to make a bit of money you can pretend that she is looking for a bf or something and do not give anything if nothing is asked. Sometimes they just want to have a good time and get laid too.

My case is probably a bit different : in local clubs and non hooker places I won't give anything unless asked.
In pick-up joints i'll take the girl to a short time hotel and pay, money asked or not. I don't want any phonecalls or psycho stalker thai girls in love.

Yes I totally agree if money was mentioned that you def should pay up, asked or not.


But most of the time when you pick up a girl in an after party club you never talk about money before. You just have fun and a good time with the girl and most of the time you end up in your or her room and do your thing. Just like you would with any girl. But now you still now she is making a living of that and there comes the question weather to pay or not even if not ask. Sometimes you feel the girl wants to bring it up but cant get herself to do it.

degen:
I think I agree with this but most of the time you will get away for free. I cant remember every paying a girl I picked up at a club. This is not a brag i think this is just what happens to most of us.

2k is way too much for a freelancer imho.

Agreed they do not ask very often.

Wait, I'm confused. You guys pick up girls at clubs (what clubs are we talking about? RCA? Thong Lo? Others?) but they are freelancers but they never mention they are freelancers but you know this? Is this just a well known fact I've never been made aware of?

Somehow this blows my mind that working girls would go to a club, go home with a guy, and then ask for money (or apparently not in most cases, but certainly be expecting it). How do you tell the working from the non-working girls? And why do they seem to not collect from most people here? Is it just because people here are young? Otherwise, it seems like they are pretty poor working girls.

I was more surprised to learn that this happens in beer bars where the girls are obviously prostitutes. People barfine them and then don't pay them for the ensuing sex? I mean, come on, that can't be right. Seems like just taking advantage of them unless you have honest intentions of trying to make them your girlfriend (which it seems they'd prefer to the one night pay). And really, who wants a bargirl as a girlfriend?

Anyway, again, I'm not trying to judge anything but this is just a little weird for me. Trying to learn more about the way things work and avoid accidentally picking up freelancers in clubs I go to (unless that is what I'm looking for).

It's simple really : in thailand hookers ( and their sub-classes ) are everywhere. deal with it.

Theyre pretty easy to tell apart imo. Not always from the looks of it but from their behavior

In the after party clubs at least 90% of the girls are some kind of hookers.

Interesting. I mean I don't want to come off like I think paying for sex is horrible because I don't and I'm not above doing it. I just prefer my paying for sex to be totally separate from my going out to pick up on normal girls.

I think the best thing you said was that in Thailand it really isn't a black/white thing which is hard for me to deal with but a realization I'm better off making now.

Seriously, thanks for all of your posts ofdabeat as they are very insightful and helpful.

Even some very famous club at eakkemei was supposed to have 70% hookers like I recently learned wich was very suprising to me.