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02-11-2014 , 09:43 PM

#44626

ved

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I read of people getting in trouble for working on their bike in their own garage lol.

Check out Thai visa. They have a sub forum about this.

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02-11-2014 , 10:30 PM

#44627

PokerSpiv

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I know plenty of people who rent out bikes without a business visa. But this is Samui, there are basically no laws.

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02-12-2014 , 01:24 AM

#44628

ved

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Hey spiv, I'm on ferry to samui. Have only 5 days at hotel and would like to stay here long time.

Where to look for condos? I have thai hooker with me if that helps.

Also you wanna party with us little bit?

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02-12-2014 , 01:59 AM

#44629

breena

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,312

I have a huge penis....

In Thailand

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02-12-2014 , 02:06 AM

#44630

Testi

Taking care of business

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 16,545

I just woke up..

With aprox 10k missing. Wish I could remember all the fun I had

Last edited by Testi; 02-12-2014 at 02:07 AM. Reason: My hands don't even smell :(

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02-12-2014 , 02:47 AM

#44631

Beck

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Originally Posted by rutang

this is pretty much never a good idea, no matter how much you trust the person.

Nonsense. Putting something of value in the name of others have never backfired for anyone in Thailand....

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Originally Posted by PokerSpiv

I know plenty of people who rent out bikes without a business visa. But this is Samui, there are basically no laws.

Just because they dont have the proper paperwork, doesnt make it legal

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02-12-2014 , 03:48 AM

#44632

PokerSpiv

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Originally Posted by Beck

Just because they dont have the proper paperwork, doesnt make it legal

My point being that what is "legal" is pretty irrelevant in Thailand.

Prostitution and gambling are illegal. Without either of which this thread would not exist.

In terms of things that could get you in serious trouble in Thailand, renting out your spare bike to a friend is right up there with jaywalking.

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02-12-2014 , 05:15 AM

#44633

ved

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Originally Posted by Testi

I just woke up..

With aprox 10k missing. Wish I could remember all the fun I had

I just got to samui and put everything In safe box except 10k I'm gonna miss tomorrow(balla)

))

Nobody wanna party with us in chawent this evening ?

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02-12-2014 , 06:00 AM

#44634

PokerSpiv

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BTW Ved there was someone linked a few days ago a bunch of links to Condos in the Chaweng area.

No partying for me tonight sorry, I'm not a fan of Chaweng. If you come to Lamai send me a PM and I can show you some places here for rent, but if you are planning on getting degen all the time then Chaweng is definitely the better option.

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02-12-2014 , 06:35 AM

#44635

LVpokerPRO

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Thinking of moving to bkk around September/October...this protest stuff gonna be over by then?

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02-12-2014 , 06:56 AM

#44636

gooSsst

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@ved
At midnight you can go to the lake in Chaweng, the Reggae Pub celebrates its 'birthday' with nice fireworks. It will be very crowded..
You can send me your number, then I'll contact you, in case we go party.

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02-12-2014 , 08:56 AM

#44637

Lessu

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Originally Posted by LVpokerPRO

Thinking of moving to bkk around September/October...this protest stuff gonna be over by then?

yes but there might be another protest by then. it is thailand after all

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02-12-2014 , 10:20 AM

#44638

Spurr

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Originally Posted by breena

Will let you know how it goes, busy right now making an immigration stamp out of a potato.

This cracked me up! Well played.

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02-12-2014 , 11:47 AM

#44639

ved

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Originally Posted by PokerSpiv

No more degen, I want quiet ish for next 6 months.

Think I have ulcer or something, third time I get drunk in a row and stomach hurts like hell.

What hospital should I go? Saw a big bangkok hospital on my way from pier.

I'll come lamai look for condo these day, will let you know, thanks!

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02-12-2014 , 03:41 PM

#44640

Lord of Poker

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Originally Posted by PokerSpiv

Hmm, he only rents out to friends that he would trust $2k+ on?
Because what can he do if someone takes advantage of him in one of the many ways possible? He can't call the police right if it's illegal what he's doing?
The contract he makes is just for appearances or maybe he doesn't even write a contract?

Just trying to get a sense for how how much or little of a risk it is to do this without a business visa.. The risk being the motorbike that you could lose or will have to repair yourself/buy new parts etc.

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02-12-2014 , 04:09 PM

#44641

rutang

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first of all, you can always claim the bike is stolen... so there is that.

I've rented out spare bikes to 2+2'ers before. most people illegally renting bikes out aren't flagging down random tourists coming into town. once you're doing it on a scale that does involve random tourists, you'll legitimize what you're doing or you're taking a lot of risk.

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02-12-2014 , 04:29 PM

#44642

kick2dante

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lol the ******ed forum troll is back after a 3 month hiatus and is quoting posts from 2013

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02-12-2014 , 06:07 PM

#44643

steelerian

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I rent out bikes. And jeeps. In Samui. Not legit yet, but will be eventually. No choice really.

Any need a bike or jeep in Samui then hit me up.

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02-12-2014 , 09:38 PM

#44644

PokerSpiv

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Because what can he do if someone takes advantage of him in one of the many ways possible? He can't call the police right if it's illegal what he's doing?

The police generally don't care about immigration matters. There are special immigration police for that.

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Just trying to get a sense for how how much or little of a risk it is to do this without a business visa.. The risk being the motorbike that you could lose or will have to repair yourself/buy new parts etc.

Having a business visa won't make the police send a crack team of special forces after your missing motorbike. In fact they would laugh in your face if you suggested they do anything other than write down the registration number for insurance purposes.

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02-12-2014 , 10:38 PM

#44645

Lord of Poker

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I don't really have the cash for a business visa but just out of curiosity, how would you protect this business if police won't help you?
Even if you give the police a copy of their passport?

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02-12-2014 , 10:52 PM

#44646

PokerSpiv

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What most people do is hold on to the renter's passport until the bike is returned intact. Also illegal, but effective.

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02-12-2014 , 11:00 PM

#44647

Pooter

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You can also take out AAA insurance which covers lots of costs if **** goes down. I know a brit who has over 300 bikes across 3 shops and in reality does not have that many problems, in relation to the amount of bikes, renters and thai staff he uses. Although his wife runs the 3 shops and does all dealing with police etc.. when something does happen.

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02-12-2014 , 11:05 PM

#44648

PokerSpiv

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Although his wife runs the 3 shops and does all dealing with police etc

This is the key. Without the wife you can't even get the insurance.

This is why most people tend to ignore regulations/laws etc. They are very hard to follow if you are not a Thai national. It's fine for bigger businesses because they can afford the legal fees and corporate setup that entails running a company as a foreign national. But most small/hobby size businesses do either by way of a Thai wife/girlfriend having their name on everything, or just ignore the laws entirely.

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02-12-2014 , 11:14 PM

#44649

Pooter

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You can still get the insurance without a wife. If the company is set up correctly. However I just think this type or biz works better if you have a wife involved. You wont get many educated thais working for you, so you need a good thai to keep them inline.