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10-26-2012 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ollieeeee
A friend of mine just got caught in BKK with a bit of weed. It was obviously a set up, a tuk-tuk driver on Khaosan road offered him some, he was smashed so he bought it lol. Two minutes later a policeman pulls up and searches him and finds it.

There was my 2 mates and 2 other girls. They wanted 40k to let them all go but they only had 20k to hand. They payed 20k and everyone except the guy with the weed on him was allowed to go. He had to stay in a cell overnight and they have now taken his passport and he's on bail. He doesn't have a date for his court appearance, he doesn't have a solicitor and I'm guessing he doesn't have much more than 40k to his name (he will probably spend around half of that here in Phuket until his trial which could be up to six weeks away).

Has anyone got any advice for him? I told him to get a solicitor and ring home and tell his parents straight up what happened but he is adamant that he's not getting a solicitor and he'll worry about it when the time comes... He hasn't told his parents because I assume he's worried about their reaction.

Am I being really paranoid or could there be serious consequences to this?
That bad news man sounds like you mate is in big trouble.

Thinking about it this is probably what i would try but no idea if it would work interested to hear other peoples opinions.

I would go as far away from bkk as possible, go to a local police station and report my passport as lost/stolen. Take police report to my embassy and get a temp passport and get out of thailand asap, probably best to go overland if he can get the temp passport.

No way i would be hanging round waiting to go to court as its not going to end well. I feel like this plan may work guess its worth a shot. Alternatively try find a way over a border into another country and then report passport stolen as soon as he gets there.
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10-26-2012 , 12:40 PM
^from what I read on the Lonely planet forum in February of this year. There is a area somewhere on the Laos border were you can leave the country without getting your passport stamped, unguarded i assume. Obv you cant enter the country again with that passport, but I guess he never coming back.


he should not do this as its illegal and I am in no way advising this. Just saying what I read on LP forums
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10-26-2012 , 01:54 PM
Now i know she aint thai BUT any chicks like this in Thailand I happen to think she is cute as **** personal pref n all that

http://www.fundalize.com/babes/Poker...n_WSOP-185506/

Obv the first chick there not the others lol
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10-26-2012 , 02:09 PM
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Now i know she aint thai BUT any chicks like this in Thailand I happen to think she is cute as **** personal pref n all that

http://www.fundalize.com/babes/Poker...n_WSOP-185506/

Obv the first chick there not the others lol

Lol that's Maria Ho, she's mediocre. If you like her you will love Thailand. Although the girls do look slightly different as they are not the same ethnicity.

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10-26-2012 , 02:16 PM
some general advice inspired by but totally not in response to any posts recently:

if you think it's a good idea to try to save money by convincing taxi drivers to give you a lift to somewhere for free, because they are going to get a payoff from the club, then you do something to keep them from getting that payoff... expect serious trouble to catch up with you.

and now some advice directly connected to a recent post

drug dealers in thailand can make far more money from tourists by selling them drugs and setting them up for the cops. and since it's assumed you're a tourist and not a repeat customer, they have even less incentive than normal to legitimately deal drugs to you. this is a very, very common setup near Khao San Road, but other places with tourists have it as well. don't buy drugs from people you just met in thailand.

especially if you don't have the money to bribe yourself out immediately.

when confronted with this type of situation, use your negotiating skills, and try not to come across as nervous or anything like that... but do your best to get it resolved quickly. every new cop that comes along makes the real price go up. when a superior officer gets involved, it can either get way more expensive, or even worse, get to the point where no one can accept a bribe because too many people know about it.
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10-26-2012 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PeoplesElbow
caught a pre paid taxi from the airport. the meter was rigged, it was going up in 3bahts every 5 seconds. the distance in KM was going way too high. before he had even do a 1km the fare was 50 baht. Obv being a bkk reg, I told him the meters wrong and take me back too the hairport. He got a bit worried then reset the meter and set it to the correct settings.


I took his name and number on the sly while I was in the cab, dunno if i should report or if anything will even happen. Dont know if people fall for it but my taxi fare would of come to 3k instead of the 150baht it was
i've never seen this scam, or even heard of it before. it really surprises me that you got hit with it, as I assume this would be reserved for people who didn't ask to get dropped off at a thai location.
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10-26-2012 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Spudhead
That bad news man sounds like you mate is in big trouble.

Thinking about it this is probably what i would try but no idea if it would work interested to hear other peoples opinions.

I would go as far away from bkk as possible, go to a local police station and report my passport as lost/stolen. Take police report to my embassy and get a temp passport and get out of thailand asap, probably best to go overland if he can get the temp passport.

No way i would be hanging round waiting to go to court as its not going to end well. I feel like this plan may work guess its worth a shot. Alternatively try find a way over a border into another country and then report passport stolen as soon as he gets there.
What are you going to tell them at the border/airport when they check for your visa and try to stamp you out? All this visa stuff is electronic and they know the status of the visa at the very least... Presumably, the cops can also block/flag the visa.

Whether the visa system is directly tied to their arrests/etc police system remains to be seen. But they do have all that info at their fingertips for sure. Thailand got a lot of pressure - and money - to create these systems to catch pedophiles/etc. so they can definitely check and it's just a question of how well integrated and what the standard operating procedure is for immigration officials in this case and what they actually check.

This isn't 'giving it a shot' either. They will really *** you over if they catch you. That's guaranteed.

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I can't believe someone would be half way around the world and they don't even have 40K baht to spare. Talk about living hand-to-mouth. Dang...

I also can't believe that all of his friends, including the guy who posted here, won't just give him 20K. With friends like these, who needs enemies, huh?
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10-26-2012 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rutang
i've never seen this scam, or even heard of it before. it really surprises me that you got hit with it, as I assume this would be reserved for people who didn't ask to get dropped off at a thai location.
I told him were I wanted to go in thai also, I had long tracksuit on and a shirt. so I didn't look like a tourist I think, could well of passed for a local given skin colour. I did have a backpack and a laptop bag, but dont know if that would make me more like a tourist. First time I had it happen, its kind of less common but still see it on various forums im on. Super obvious to spot if your a Thailand reg, meter was like 50 baht withing 20seconds.

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if you think it's a good idea to try to save money by convincing taxi drivers to give you a lift to somewhere for free, because they are going to get a payoff from the club, then you do something to keep them from getting that payoff... expect serious trouble to catch up with you.
#yolo-na

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10-26-2012 , 02:53 PM
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What are you going to tell them at the border/airport when they check for your visa and try to stamp you out? All this visa stuff is electronic and they know the status of the visa at the very least... Presumably, the cops can also block/flag the visa.
Well if its an emergency passport then your visa would have been lost with the original passport.

I agree this would be risky at the airport but at a remote overland crossing you would stand a very good chance.

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Whether the visa system is directly tied to their arrests/etc police system remains to be seen. But they do have all that info at their fingertips for sure. Thailand got a lot of pressure - and money - to create these systems to catch pedophiles/etc. so they can definitely check and it's just a question of how well integrated and what the standard operating procedure is for immigration officials in this case and what they actually check.
I think its very unlikely they have an integrated system at land border crossings that would be able to compare an emergency passport with the original. its more likely they would alert his embassy to prevent him getting the new passport in the first place. If he can get one i think its highly likely this would work.


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This isn't 'giving it a shot' either. They will really *** you over if they catch you. That's guaranteed.
Agreed he would be in big trouble if he got caught but i think thats unlikely if he can get hold of an emergency passport.
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10-26-2012 , 03:43 PM
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Well if its an emergency passport then your visa would have been lost with the original passport.
No it wouldn't. It's all in their system unless you change your name.

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I agree this would be risky at the airport but at a remote overland crossing you would stand a very good chance.
Again, it's in their computer system. And there is no such thing as 'remote overland crossing' in Thailand. Thailand is one of them most touristy places on earth and there are tons of backpackers roaming 'remote places' as they rotate visa stamps. Immigration officials - everywhere - know how to check visa status and criminal status. Most countries have a system to prevent parole/bail people from feeling the country - that's one of the main reasons for immigration officials in the first place - and I would expect Thailand to be pretty good at doing this as well.

I hope there is an update at some point.

Perhaps a cameo appearance on Locked Up Abroad? haha
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10-26-2012 , 03:53 PM
mario ho is super cute she looks good live much better than on pic
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10-26-2012 , 03:56 PM
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prolly gonna be in bkk weekend of the 9th. Who on it??
In! Hopefully able tocelebrate the release of my FTP monies by then.
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10-26-2012 , 04:01 PM
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No it wouldn't. It's all in their system unless you change your name.



Again, it's in their computer system. And there is no such thing as 'remote overland crossing' in Thailand. Thailand is one of them most touristy places on earth and there are tons of backpackers roaming 'remote places' as they rotate visa stamps. Immigration officials - everywhere - know how to check visa status and criminal status. Most countries have a system to prevent parole/bail people from feeling the country - that's one of the main reasons for immigration officials in the first place - and I would expect Thailand to be pretty good at doing this as well.

I hope there is an update at some point.

Perhaps a cameo appearance on Locked Up Abroad? haha
If he can't pay off the right people, and it may be too late to do this now, it is very likely he will be going to spend time in jail.
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10-26-2012 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LUVtehNL
sry to repost this again, but i would like to hear some opinions on this:
"i plan on going back to SE Asia next year and i would like to know if playing on Stars (aswell as cashing out to my bank or neteller) is a problem when i use wifi (in guesthouses) or a Simcard which provides internet on my laptop.
also, can i keep my german address for stars and neteller when im travelling there?
is it safe in general to play in thailand with your own registred simcard when you keep things private?"
it's kinda sad that this guy asks 3 times and still no reg here wants to answer his basic questions...
this said:
- playing on stars no problem
- no need to change adress if you're german. if you plan to live in thailand for a really long time, maybe you should change it, no idea. i lived in thailand 3+ month (2 times) and stars didn't care.
- no problem playing on wifi or simcard. as you say, just keep it kinda private. but it's not like someone is filtering the wifi for illegal data packets etc... and it's safe, don't worry. just don't tell any strangers that you play poker full time and don't go to any live cash games (but even at live games, the risk is quite low. normally you simply loose your chips if there's a raid)
- cashing out to your (german) bank should be no problem. if you make a thai bank account, direct wires are still possible.
- neteller: not sure about the rules (there are many posts about this itt, just search for neteller). i think you need a VPN to access neteller with a german adress from thailand. if you have a thai adress on neteller, you can access it normally from thailand, but transfers from/to gambling sites are not possible. but as i said, really unsure if this info is correct, just search the thread.

so to sum up: keep stars adress german, make direct cash outs to bank, don't worry too much about safety (but don't act like an idiot).

this is all for thailand, no clear idea about rest of SEA
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10-26-2012 , 04:27 PM
if he's in jail right now, he needs to get some money and start working on getting out... which means his friends need to be on the ball. thai jail is ****ing full blown ****. if he's out of jail right now, find a decent lawyer to make the proper payoffs for him.
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10-26-2012 , 04:30 PM
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it's kinda sad that this guy asks 3 times and still no reg here wants to answer his basic questions...
usually when there's a basic question being posted that is not answered, it's because it's been answered a million times, recently, or in the FAQ.
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10-26-2012 , 06:10 PM
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No it wouldn't. It's all in their system unless you change your name.



Again, it's in their computer system. And there is no such thing as 'remote overland crossing' in Thailand. Thailand is one of them most touristy places on earth and there are tons of backpackers roaming 'remote places' as they rotate visa stamps. Immigration officials - everywhere - know how to check visa status and criminal status. Most countries have a system to prevent parole/bail people from feeling the country - that's one of the main reasons for immigration officials in the first place - and I would expect Thailand to be pretty good at doing this as well.

I hope there is an update at some point.

Perhaps a cameo appearance on Locked Up Abroad? haha
Looks like he is in big trouble, if he cant find a way out on an emergency passport maybe he can try and cross the border illegally or stow away on a ship or something

Nighmare scenario to be in but at least he is on bail at the moment so he can try think up a plan to escape. This is the reason you dont want to be doing drugs in Thailand its just not worth the risk.
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10-26-2012 , 06:18 PM
Yeah I dont bother with drugs in Asia unless on un policed islands but I would just GTFO and never go back anythings better than 10 years in Thai prison.
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10-26-2012 , 06:47 PM
i was considering putting together a good halloween costume, maybe go as a "forum troll"

does anyone know where i can get a good fake indian mustache in Phuket? I really should have thought of this when i was visiting BKK.
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10-26-2012 , 07:03 PM
I have heard story of a banned poster from this thread who hired a lawyer and couldn't get his situation taken care of with bribes so his lawyer bribed a police officer to get him across the border in the trunk of a police car.

I probably should have pm'd this story since its none of my business but I think a lot of people already know this story and it can possible help your friend.
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10-26-2012 , 07:04 PM
Point is def hire a good lawyer who specializes in this type of thing and don't try to cross the border.
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10-26-2012 , 07:10 PM
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i was considering putting together a good halloween costume, maybe go as a "forum troll"
Makes things easier I suppose as theres no need to dress up then.

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10-26-2012 , 08:29 PM
Thai imo system knows all lol my friend was recently on bail for serious charge. He tried to leave the country via bkk airport, to note the 'bail' he paid allegedly included lifting the travel restriction. When he tried going through imo not only did they tell him he was not allowed to leave but also the charge he was up on.

So he paid 300k to get out of the police station and was told this was charge dropped. Turns out it was just regular bail he lost that 300k and put over another million baht into the case once he could not leave the country.
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10-26-2012 , 08:46 PM
So they basically set him up? Lol
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10-26-2012 , 08:47 PM
How did he not have a lawyer?
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