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07-27-2021 , 12:33 PM
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Phuket tourism experiment risks suspension as Covid cases surge

The resort island reported 125 new Covid-19 cases during the week ending July 27, higher than the government-set threshold of 90 weekly cases that could trigger a temporary suspension of the program. In response, local authorities closed public schools and shopping malls and banned gatherings of more than 100 people from Tuesday to stem the virus from spreading further.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...id-cases-surge
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07-27-2021 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iLiveInAsia
To be fair, their little sandbox plan was put in place before it was obvious that the vaxxed could catch and transmit.

If they keep that rule it's game over.

From the govt that gives us

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07-27-2021 , 03:26 PM

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07-28-2021 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
To be fair, their little sandbox plan was put in place before it was obvious that the vaxxed could catch and transmit.

That's been known since the vaccines were released.

Some of them only lessen the effects of the disease in 60% of people and it's short lived requiring boosters.

Who would go to the Phuket litter box after what the government said about 'dirty farangs' when the virus was first exported from China.
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07-28-2021 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
That's been known since the vaccines were released.

Some of them only lessen the effects of the disease in 60% of people and it's short lived requiring boosters.

Who would go to the Phuket litter box after what the government said about 'dirty farangs' when the virus was first exported from China.
Where do you recommend traveling in 2021/2022?
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07-28-2021 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
That's been known since the vaccines were released.



Some of them only lessen the effects of the disease in 60% of people and it's short lived requiring boosters.



Who would go to the Phuket litter box after what the government said about 'dirty farangs' when the virus was first exported from China.
I don't think it was totally known. Seems like the doctors always said it may be possible but they were never like, yeah, it's 100% going to travel through the vaxxed.
Probably because they knew that would hurt vaccine take up.
So they knew but weren't super forthcoming about it.
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07-28-2021 , 03:14 AM
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Where do you recommend traveling in 2021/2022?
Somewhere that's not having their 1st real outbreak and are open for business.
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07-28-2021 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
I don't think it was totally known. Seems like the doctors always said it may be possible but they were never like, yeah, it's 100% going to travel through the vaxxed.
Probably because they knew that would hurt vaccine take up.
So they knew but weren't super forthcoming about it.
My understanding is before delta it was told how vaccinated people can spread it, but in reality it was going to be so rare that it's mostly meaningless. Then came Delta, and suddenly vaccinated breakthrough infections have the same crazy viral load as unvaccinated and it's completely different situation.
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07-29-2021 , 12:18 AM
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My understanding is before delta it was told how vaccinated people can spread it, but in reality it was going to be so rare that it's mostly meaningless. Then came Delta, and suddenly vaccinated breakthrough infections have the same crazy viral load as unvaccinated and it's completely different situation.
Yeah, that's what I mean. At least what I read. They were like, yeah it's possible and there may be some rare cases of it but nothing to be concerned about. Didn't quite go that way. Can understand Thailand being optimistic about it, but at this point, if you're going to lock tourists down for 2 weeks because they test positive on arrival then just scrap the whole thing.

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07-29-2021 , 02:37 AM
no, the vaccines stop the SARS virus progressing to COVID.

people that are vaccinated don't just have the virus in their nose they are actively infected with the virus and are infectious.

this vaccine does not immunise you and will require boosters once or twice a year for the rest of your life. i imagine over time it's effectiveness wanes much like with constant antibiotic use. the vaccine will promote more aggressive variants to become dominant.
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07-29-2021 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
no, the vaccines stop the SARS virus progressing to COVID.

people that are vaccinated don't just have the virus in their nose they are actively infected with the virus and are infectious.

this vaccine does not immunise you and will require boosters once or twice a year for the rest of your life. i imagine over time it's effectiveness wanes much like with constant antibiotic use. the vaccine will promote more aggressive variants to become dominant.
Uh yeah, when the virus goes in your mouth you can be infected. What's the controversy of that?

To make it more relevant to Thailand. Has herpes mutated to a more "aggressive" strain? Who's to say covid will?
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07-29-2021 , 03:58 AM
Poker player's Bangkok arrest story:



If you don't want to end up like this or dead stay away.

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07-29-2021 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lol69
That's been known since the vaccines were released.

Some of them only lessen the effects of the disease in 60% of people and it's short lived requiring boosters.
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Originally Posted by lol69
no, the vaccines stop the SARS virus progressing to COVID.

people that are vaccinated don't just have the virus in their nose they are actively infected with the virus and are infectious.

this vaccine does not immunise you and will require boosters once or twice a year for the rest of your life. i imagine over time it's effectiveness wanes much like with constant antibiotic use. the vaccine will promote more aggressive variants to become dominant.
This is all incorrect. The 60%, I suppose you are referring to the efficacy, means it prevents symptomatic covid in 60% of people, the numbers in preventing hosptializations and deaths are still much higher, even with the 'bad' chinese vaccines.
And actually, viruses usually mutate to less aggressive forms, more aggressive forms confer no evolutionary advantage
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07-29-2021 , 06:03 AM
This thread is cancerous thanks to few relentless trolls. I don't get why mods banned contributing members from years ago and let this go on forever. I know we had trolls back in the day too, but at least they were funny. These ones are just sad and annoying.
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07-29-2021 , 06:10 AM
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This is all incorrect. The 60%, I suppose you are referring to the efficacy, means it prevents symptomatic covid in 60% of people, the numbers in preventing hosptializations and deaths are still much higher, even with the 'bad' chinese vaccines.
And actually, viruses usually mutate to less aggressive forms, more aggressive forms confer no evolutionary advantage
There's no going back to normal any time soon with those kinds of numbers. Herd immunity impossible.
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07-29-2021 , 06:11 AM
FLOL 200bt.
Seriously gave me a good laugh. Thanks!
What a rookie scammer, he's lucky someone more experienced didn't catch him wasting his 2hrs for 200bt. A Phuket Tuk Tuk driver won't even get up to unbutton his pants to get a bj from your gf for 200bt.
The police have it so nice there. They can just "deputize" whoever they want and go shake people down acting as police and then share profits.

Also you can't be flying drones in Thailand unless you're a film/tv production. I doubt this guy with his 1,000 subscribers will qualify.

LOL 200bt. I'd be fistpumping to get off with that bribe anywhere in the world, let alone Phuket.

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07-29-2021 , 06:19 AM
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This thread is cancerous thanks to few relentless trolls. I don't get why mods banned contributing members from years ago and let this go on forever. I know we had trolls back in the day too, but at least they were funny. These ones are just sad and annoying.
Unless you're lumping me in, I enjoy ILIA's posts.
I find it especially amusing that he lives in China, where the govt literally has concentration camps, surveillance social credit score and have ruined one of the best cities in the world (HK). But it's this SEA regimes that are especially evil.
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07-29-2021 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
This thread is cancerous thanks to few relentless trolls. I don't get why mods banned contributing members from years ago and let this go on forever. I know we had trolls back in the day too, but at least they were funny. These ones are just sad and annoying.
Agreed, this thread is now an elevated version of Bangkok Post's comment section. And I say elevated because in here you can post videos and pictures, not because the content is any better than there.

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I find it especially amusing that he lives in China, where the govt literally has concentration camps, surveillance social credit score and have ruined one of the best cities in the world (HK). But it's this SEA regimes that are especially evil.
Does he really live in China though? What do we really know about ILIA? What is his job? Where is he from? What is his name? Afaik he is just a troll spamming the **** out of this thread and every other SEA thread with a few misleading videos and a bunch of schizo anti-SEA propaganda.

I think that is the mods decision not to interfere with him because that would be censoring and I kinda see where they're coming from, is just a shame that the whole thread is being downgraded because of his posts that are pure spam and hate speech towards Thai people based on a handful of cases here and there across the years.

Probably what will happen is that some (including myself) will get tired of having to disprove his claims every time and let him have the thread.

To be honest, that feels pretty much like the story of recent years of 2+2 and you can see that in the declining numbers of people frequenting the forums so nothing to be surprised about.
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07-29-2021 , 06:42 AM
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Does he really live in China though? What do we really know about ILIA? What is his job? Where is he from? What is his name?
Yes, I know most of these
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07-29-2021 , 07:46 AM
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hate speech towards Thai people based on a handful of cases here and there across the years.
Cambodia and Thailand the highest death rate per head of young Brits

Britons under 40 are more likely to die in Cambodia and Thailand than any other countries in the world, a Sun online investigation has revealed.

https://www.nationthailand.com/international/30342099
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07-29-2021 , 08:08 AM
I 100% agree with ILIA. No other place in the world will there be drunken bar fights, people selling overpriced crap to tourists, or general crime for that matter. Those things are exclusive to Thailand.

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Do you really want to be in a place where fake police is common, where few people speak your language fluently and locals known for corrupt criminal behavior and a vicious hatred of foreigners know they can do pretty much anything to you and nothing will ever happen to them? That's pretty much the textbook definition of a 3rd world deathtrap.
Yeah, that is quite horrible. Imagine going to a place, and all the locals dont speak your native tongue fluently, must be traumatic.

You keep talking about locals who hate all foreigners, and how they would love to kill us all. Its getting old.
Have you ever considered they don't hate foreigners in general, maybe they just dont like YOU, because of your toxic attitude?
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07-29-2021 , 09:04 AM
China is the absolute most horrible country in the world and this guy lives there and talks bad about Thailand the pussy paradise..... amazing. China has no redeeming qualities there is no reason to visit there i will never fly a Chinese airline or transit through china no matter how good a deal the business class ticket is. I'm assuming he's British since he cares about Brits dying in sea. Then I can kind of understand his dislike for Thailand every girl I know hates Brits more then any other country. Even indians rank above Brits these days in thailand
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07-29-2021 , 10:11 AM
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07-29-2021 , 01:23 PM
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Thailand every girl I know hates Brits
Why do they hate Brits?
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07-30-2021 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BT2
Why do they hate Brits?
If you take an Easyjet / Ryan Air flight chances are there will be a verbal spat or a full blown fight.

They're the perfect match with aggressive methhead hookers.
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