To the airport you last flew from, on the same airline, so fly early in the day making sure there are return flights later that day, to avoid sleeping overnight in the airport detention cell

what about bali, indonesia? r tourist visas there pretty easy?

Haven't read any bad news about it. There or Vietnam should be safer than Laos

Damn, for real? Seems like everything is so difficult these days. Surely something else has to be going on there.

I haven't seen any other reports of people having issues in Vientiane, did a crackdown start there the same time they started to limit applications and make people prebook to apply?

Apparently a number of people weren't snap approved like normal, and had to go for interviews before receiving their visas. My roommate had to wait all day and then at 430 they called his name and gave his visa back with a big void stamp and when he asked why he didn't even get an interview (literally because it was knock off time) the guy just said "you stay Thailand long time!' and walked off. :')

This was only for ed visa tho right? I haven't read or heard of anyone being denied a TV.

Regardless if have os, they issue but stamp that this will be the last.

I'm thinking to go, I mean there is appointment on Fri open, i can leave Thursday. My fine is already maxed out so doesn't matter if leave today or next week.

Then if denied fly to CM.

Getting sick of all this **** tho, maybe time to quit Thailand I think.

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Lol, now reading loads of stories of denied TV in Laos...

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Can recommend PH. Nobody gives a **** here

You mean fly via Bangkok to luang , stay a month or so I'm thinking is best, then if issued a TV cross at NK, or fly back in?

Tbh if I stay 1-2 months in Laos I don't see why I would be denied a TV even with the os. I have new passport and I've been on a non o for 3yrs prior which was transferred to this new one, then 2 visa exempts plus this last fkup of a TV this year.

I kinda like Laos tbh, have wanted to spend some time there and check it out, but always just hnr for visa in the past.

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Yeah, there are other places but then I'd have to re enter via BK, and this poses more risks than CM or NK.

Also, in the process of transferring all action n accounts to laptop, but this takes few days. Considering that I should spend some time outside of Thailand to make it look like travelling n all that, it's best to spend a couple months out, but then also weigh up the ev of being able to re-enter. Lots of people recently being turned away at BK and told to go back to country of origin.

I can grind on laptop for month or so, but want to get back to main set up as easily and quickly as possible. Perhaps couple months in Laos is most suited, and the least risky option.


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It's a tough spot, there have also been people denied at airports even though they'd been gone for 2+ months. High chance once they see your overstay stamp they look into your history and see the previous 3 year stay, and deny. But if you overstay the whole 89 days, then do say a longer 3+ month stay in laos / philippines because you're more bored of thailand at that point, then by that time the clock is reset on the 2 land visa entries per year, and you can come in by land. Could even overstay 364 days and happily take a one year ban to go travel elsewhere at that point

I meant go spend a couple weeks in Vietnam grab a TV since the consulates are currently still friendly there. Then you can fly to Laos from Vietnam and use a border. Obv you could just fly into the airport as well just depends on your risk tolerance. Since you actually want to spend some time Laos you could go to Vietnam for two weeks then spend two weeks in Laos even.

Reading some of the stuff currently on the internet doesnt sound like either Laos counsulate is a shoe in for u to even get a TV. Sav just screwed me with a stamp and ive tons of denials from there and sounds like Vientiane is becoming lame as well.

I thought Penang used to be a pretty friendly consulate but now it sounds like the airport immigration officials are a big concern?
So it's Penang, train to Malay/Thai border, dodge some roadside bombings heading overland to Hat Yai. Air Asia Hat Yai to CM.

The Philippines really blows but if I had to jump through these hoops I'd have to strongly consider.

@jspill Ty, true. I could just stay in Laos until the land crossing reset, then return via NK. Laos does seem like a solid option wrt this. I do agree that I'm not 100% confident returning via airports with a TV gained from any consulate given the current crackdown. With 89 day os + history it's highly likely I'd get **** from immi. Being sent back to country of origin is just a whole fkn mission I'd wish to avoid.

I could for sure rinse the last 50 days I have here, bail to Laos, spend 3 months, then return overland in the new year. Are the yearly resets done from Jan to Jan? Also, are you fairly confident I'm able to exit via NK with 89 day os and pay fine there?

@yellowfever
Yeah I just don't want to have to return via airport given current history and os. Ofc phili or Cambo are options too but that's a whole other mission.

@5 south
Interesting. I will look into this, Ty. Avoiding being bombed wbn : D but yeh, maybe a hoop I need hop through if it's a viable option.

Ty^





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I can't recall reading about a land border not letting people clear a big overstay. It should be ok but just to be sure you could pay at the airport and fly to laos. On thai airways, as at one point laos airways wasn't letting people with overstays check in.

Ok Ty. I've read of a few issues but not at NK. Some guys turned back and told to fly out of BK when trying at some southern borders. Fairly rare though.

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Visa run in 2019:
- which gender immigration officals to avoid at immigration airport based on gto calculation
- TR visa refused at embassy, what do, be ready for plan B
- plan B not working, be ready for plan C

GTO is chill middle aged guy and the fastest moving queue

unless it's very obvious that you pick and choose you will have less troubles this way 99% of the time

middle aged women and guys wearing face masks is a no go

the biggest trouble I ever got in asia was from some guy wearing a surgical mask in a slow moving queue who was nitpicking everyone

middle aged women often give me **** as well

bonus points for dressing like a well off older asian guy (clean sneakers instead of those weird boat shoes)

you can buy an outfit like that for 100 bucks at uniqlo in bangkok / chiang mai



face is everything and this way you at least look like you have some money to sustain yourself

Ultimately I guess it doesn't matter, but wtf does Laos care? Seems like it should be on Thailand when you try to reenter if anything.

^haha, too good : D

Just gotta try avoid the new wave of npc millennial smartphone zombies imo.

The older guys can deal with.




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1-2 months is just a holiday so not sure what you mean by bankroll/liferoll needed. also since its just a holiday doesnt seem like you need to make a living wage from poker. if you havnt been making a living off poker anytime in the past year its going to take atleast 6 months of intense grind/study to get back to that point (speaking of online).

for you trip you can get by on as little as 300 usd a week many retirees do this.

This is ridiculous. I remember doing a Poi Pet run on one of those crazy vans.

Thailand is so much fun but It's becoming a bit tough to have a good time with the changes and attitudes.

the school you mentioned to me i looked up right after and a recent google review was a guying saying he got denied his visa

I mean really it has nothing to do with the school as they used a third party visa company for this stuff.

That one time I got issues, it was a 50 YO over-weighted tomboy, careful with those also. I felt the sexual frustration and the need of revenge on society in her.