i agree with it all and if you're talking the bar industry it applies to bangkok as well.

walking street is a mess with all the tour groups and cheap charlies with their 7-eleven beers just loitering all night long.

i still like thailand but it's played out as far as the farang-centric sex industry goes. go there for food, for fun day trips, for boozing, conveniences, culture, maybe 1 or 2 bar fines over the course of the trip because why not, but the days of going there to bar fine two girls per day are over.

when i was there a few months ago the gogos were swarming with chinese. on three separate occasions i chatted with a random asian seated next to me and they were all from china. it's game over. just wait until they swarm on the gogos en masse and the gogos start catering to them almost exclusively.

@pooter: i somewhat disagree, even though i just visited patts a few times and you live there full time (and i respect you as a poster).
i think you take the current situation in the hottest gogos (and the ones that focus on asian punters) and generalise too much. you probably also have a recency-bias due to x-mas-highseason (more punters, less girls --> higher prices).
yes, in general, sapphire, what's up, skyfall etc are not a good option to barfine a girl unless you want to pay a lot (or are especially lucky).
BUT: there are many many gogos on WS and even though the average looks of the girls are lower than in the top-tier, there are still enough stunners to find. and prices are on average much more reasonable, especially after midnight (500-800bht barfine, 2000-3000 for LT).

and unless you talk about the absolute "superstars" from sapphire, i mostly heard good feedback about the sex itself. (i never barfined from there, i agree it's not woth it; but it's a good place to have a beer with your mates, enjoy the view and not be hassled for lady-drinks).

now, i am not saying that the average girl-quality or the value you get for your money has not gone downhill over the last few years. i assume that's true. BUT:
you have to go with the times and adapt. go for a massage in chayapoon or soi honey and if you're happy with the girl, (try to) take her out longtime. much cheaper and on average better service and less hustle. or try one of the many "new" gentlemen clubs (exite, poste, club 4 or kinnaree & the other ones in this area). or go to nightclubs after 2am (and try a different place than only ibar / insomnia, way too many guys in there).

that's also what annoys me about lol69: you "constantly" lament about the low gogo-quality in BKK. and yes, it's true. especially soi cowboy is much worse than it was 5-10 years ago (and probably much much worse than it was 20 years ago). but instead of changing your ways and trying new stuff, you just do the same thing every trip. the world changes, adapt or die (lonely). btw, on my last trip i barfined a 21-year old stunner from billboard for 1500 ST (+800bf). the options are still there, you just need to look a little harder. there were also enough hot freelancers available around nana. and then you have all the soapies, thermae, hundreds of massage places on soi 24 / 33 etc, the thai-focused brothels and so on...

Walking streets good for the cheap draft beer prices and AC with some naked chicks. You just got to find the places where the draft beer doesnt taste like week old piss. If you just want to romp some girls much better value places(Soi6).

I do remember like 4 years ago i could find some young gems in the smaller gogos for a 3kLT with great sex etc, to where now all the hot girls seem to be in palace,whatsup, and a few other select gogos with absurd prices as a standard quote all around. Even last time i was there in May low season gogo prices were absurd even when they werent busy. I can only imagine how sheit it seems now to a dude like Pooter whos a vet to the place and has been going since its hayday.

Still though if i take a random buddy from home to Pattaya for a week they'll have the time of their life on walking street.

Quick cliffs as i got ****ing work to do.

Pooter - Where do you live now (which Thailand city) and where and you getting your girls, Thaifriendly in Bangkok?

Bars have always made more money when girls stay in the bar and customers buy drinks. We're in the business of selling lady drinks. Bar fines are not that profitable. The reason bar fine costs go up is it is harder and harder to get girls these days. Hence higher bar fines to keep the numbers up in the bar. If a customer pokes their head in and doesn't see enough girls then they go on to the next joint.

I'm thinking it might be time to settle down with one of these hot LBFMs before they're all too rich to want to put up with a disgusting fat old degenerate sexpat like myself. How long you think before Thai girls want nothing to do with degenerate foreign guys? Can't be too far off.

so wheres the hot bitches at ?

Your dong will stop working before Thai hookers will stop banging fat old guys dont worry bro.

But will they still do bareback anal and swallow my cum for 1k baht + bar?

I think I want to make a prop bet, I want to bet I can out-degen Pooter. I don't necessarily think I can do it, I just think it would be a fun bet to partake in.

Let's assume it will be in soi 6, does anyone have any ideas how we could do this, what degen tasks would be set for us and what the line would be on who would win? FYI I live in Pattaya for 5 years, but I've never been a manwhore or paid a girl to piss on me, so Pooter is definitely favourite.

A friend has a 43' monitor to sell in Chiang Mai, pm me for details

I've just finished 69ing a pre op lady boy. Are you sure you wanna go through with this prop bet?

I'm less sure now. Maybe we should meet up and trade war stories next time I'm in town instead.

Was it any good?

Got a couple PM's asking to send over a PDF. I can't figure out how to message. So, I'll post it here and if that's not OK, can the mods take it down and send it to whoever wanted?

bangkok is a very small part of my life now. i doubt i even visit for more than 4-5 days this year. i'll visit gogos out of curiosity more than anything.

yo i'm getting death threats over that stuff tonight

Run

Nah i am sure you could out degen me now, maybe not my younger self but im pretty chilled out these days.

Swimmin?

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/far...million-views/

what a cuck

Bro i think that is him. He even used to talk about training Muay Thai.

Ledge.

I'm undefeated as a fighter and this guy is a loser. (i beat roided out d1 college running backs because their technique and minds are weak, we all have two hands and two feet and at the highest level its largely mental once you train the body optimally, look at how saengchi wins, he really does it with his mind at this point.

The loser kid in the cocnuts vid jokes about fighting buakaw but I train 6 hours a week as if I'm the #1 contender. It'd be a tough ****ing fight but I'm ready for it 55

Part of the reason I train this hard is so no guy could ever say anything about my 'smaller than average penis' in real life because he can tell just by looking at me that he would die if he disrespected me