Where was my invite to a 'dinner' ?!

I'm in Koh Chang now which is pretty beautiful. THe beach isn't too busy and obv the weathers great. Going to try out some other beaches tomorrow. Stayede in Pattaya which is possibly the most horrible place I've ever been to. Luckily I stayed in a nice hotel with bell boy, cable tv, cleaner etc. for the same price as a guestroom on khao son road. It was ok in the daytime when i sat on the beach and read a book but even that sucked when I walked off and was grabbed by the arm by a women saying I had to pay 30 baht for sitting on the deckchairs. I refused to pay for the following reasons which i hope i was justified in doing so;
1. the entire beach is covered in deck chairs so there is no where to sit without paying which virtually makes it so you have to pay admission to visit the beach.
2. there were plenty of avaiable seats for people to sit on
3. i was interupted over 10 times within an hour whilst reading a book, and it is not possible to simply ignore them
4. i took my own drink and put it in my bag b4 leaving
5. the woman was simply the owner of a little store selling drinks etc.
6. no signs anywhere , was not told till i left

i went to ubon ratachadi which was amazing... there is no farang whatsoever so people are very friendly and eager to help. I was there to see a friend (teacher) who stayed in the school compound. Apart from having to introduce myself at their assembly it was great! Also went to a club called 'The Rock' which was amazing if not for anything else but the girls.

will be back in bk for a couple of nights, plan to visit snake farm and stay on sukhumvit or perhaps just khao son road again )=:/ b4 heading back to uk

i may post some photos when i get chance
chow

yeha pattaya is ****.. unless ur bkkdude, then its prob as close to paradise as humanly possible.

Give me a pm if you plan to visit this snake farm(before feb01 caus then im outta here)and you want company. I want to do some tourist activity's but its so boring alone

pm sent.

koh samed was awesome.. beautiful beach.. white sand. i recommend.
saw only 1 obnoxious american

There's something weird about the Thai face.

Thai girls are not photogenic.

Pumpuii,

looks nice, but you suck at taking pictures. Where did you stay?

i used my cheap camera phone which is dirty aswell...

I stayed at jep's house first night which was acceptable although the bed did suck.. very peacefull
then the next night i stayed at the 'motel' behind the place where they have a live band every night on the beach and it sucked... bed too old, very noisy, drunk thais wont shut up

everything good was full..
900baht for the second night 1.2k first

I'd say the girl is average, there a dime a dozen there...but since shes a good girl i guess that adds to the hotness factor.

Also a question? Many of the "good" girls Ive encountered in China do not shave below (No they do not have some ugly enormous bush, just a small patch of hair), is this the same case scenario for "good" thai girls?

i thought the 2 girls i met were 10;s in ubon the rock club;

Arsehole.


She is lovely.

There is something incredibly beautiful about the Thai woman's face smiling.

What you guys call stunning in Thailand is like 5 or 6 out of 10 at most in the west. I don't understand the appeal of the Thai woman's face..

From zero to 100, motoooobike

Talking about the ones where u sorta laydown not relly situp, that goes really fasts.
So its obvious that I know nothing about these machines but I have always wanted to have one, so I must buy one.. its the western way.

Licence?
Learn how to operate it?
Costs? other than the buying price.. repairs taxes some other "hidden" expenses

You who have bikes here do you just rent motobikes monthly?

in bkk, we have looked a lot and have not found any place renting.
You can buy it and pay monthly thats it..
motorbikes are around 1k $... but they arent real motorbikes.. more like 'scooters' with a little more power.

Theres a model where u lay forward that is a little little more powerfull and more controlable like a real motorbike which is the same price.. id recommand this one, its the most solid... if you drive like a grand ma, the fino is awesome esp on the beach

as far as real motorcycles go... id love to know more too.. havnt even seen 1 real chopper.. just scooters with small chopper frames

thanx pum.

dammit Im looking for something rather small so i can glide trough traffic like a motobike while in the city but still do longer trips like bkk to chumopon/koh samet/chang.. etc with a backpack on my back. I have seen a couple of these around town and they seem like a good investment. Cross country on my own terms would be amazing.

I found 2hand choppers online located in bangkok while googling

bah you can certainly take those motorbikes to koh samet and koh chang.. it's only going to take you 6-7hours.
I remember seeing 1 real chopper @ craigslist bkk 3 months ago

Yeah but how fast are the motobikes? 90km/h? (idk) sucks if you are planing longer trips like phuket>bangkok, bangkok>surathani.

You're talking about a sport bike. Given that you know nothing about bikes, if you just bought one and started driving it around Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, or just about any island without any training, the odds of you killing yourself are pretty good. They're not practical for heavily populated cities and they're extremely uncomfortable for long trips. It's a tough compromise. You want a smaller bike for city use and a bigger bike (200cc, minimum) for long trips.

I've heard that you technically need a license to operate a motorcycle in Thailand. But I've also heard that if you wear a helmet at all times and, in general, don't give any cops a reason to **** you over, you'll be fine without one.

Yes, you should learn to operate a bike. How you would go about this I have no clue.

Don't know much about buying bikes except for what I've heard from various people. If you want to buy one in your own name you will need at least a one-year visa. Repairs will be very inexpensive so long as you stick to one of the more common makes and models. You can get a new 112cc Kawasaki Kaze for around $900. For what you want, you're looking at $2,000 and up.

I live in Chiang Mai and I've always rented. A simple 110cc bike is about $60 a month. If I need something bigger for a trip out of town, I'll just trade bikes for a day and pay the difference. You'll have no problem finding rental places on the more populated islands. You won't find a rental place in Bangkok, as there is no market for it.

Since when can u get 1 year visas unless its a work permit?
i went to 5 different places, i could buy a bike without any visa information

Thanks for the info Uston!
In the motherland I would just wals my way into a MC driver license firm and get them to teach me how to ride and eventually get my license. Exactly like I did with my AUTOMOBILIA license. But here I don't know where to start...

I am relocating from bangkok soon and thats why im asking. For getting around in general here in bangkok I prefer the local transportation because its so good. But I miss driving and getting a motorcycle has always been a dream, and this is the land where dreams come true.

Places without subway skytrain and taxis with meter almost require a bike.

Ill will look into renting when I get out of the city. Thanks

Ok, when and if you do buy one on a tourist visa, let me know what happens when you try and register it in your own name. I'm not being a smartass. I'm legitimately curious. I never know who to believe when it comes to these things. FWIW, my info is coming from a girl I know who works for a Kawasaki dealership in CM.

As for the visa info, no clue. I'm American and have no desire to work here or marry a Thai girl so I'm stuck with the tourist visas.

kaah,

That's a nice bike. Good for city use and trips of up to a few hours. Anything more than that and your back will pay the price.

Finally some ****ing rain. Two month dry finally over, praise Oden.

Regarding motorbikes, they're much better than a proper motorcycle for use in the city since they're smaller and more maneuverable. Motorcycle is better for longer trips and highway use. As Uston said, riding a big powerful bike without training and experience is a good way to get yourself killed, as many yuppies in the US are finding out. I would pay slightly more for an automatic since you have enough things to worry about (especially when inexperienced) than changing gears.

FYI, if you're used to an automatic, you can't just jump onto a manual bike and be fine. The foot brake is harder to get used to than changing gears.

i dont understand why you would want rain

Does anyone have any tips on finding a cheap flight to thailand? I live in vancouver canada, and many of the flights I have seen are like 2500+++ damn if it really this expensive I dont think I can afford it.

Did anyone take a cheap flight out from vancouver, or canada? Thanks