You forgot "How do I use Google?"

Yeah I could just not find it anywhere, that's why I ordered from Amazon. But they asked for some blabla license or otherwise they would not be able to ship it.

I'm in BKK again next week and will check around. Let me know if you stumble across it first though, cuz I'm lazy ;D

is it illegal to be a polygamist in thailand?

What are you looking for exactly? I need purple wrath. the BCAAs

Still think my post is very valid and probably accounts for many of the murders.

'I think its all relative tbh. I think Thailand is actually reasonably safe. The other side of the coin is if you do get into a spot of bother the outcome is likely to be far worse than 'safe' western countries. i.e. chance of death is far far higher'

The simple fact of life in Thailand is what would probably be simple skirmishes and fisticuffs in the west often leads to a very bloody end and death in Thailand. For a normal person who never gets into scrapes I don't think it is that much less safe than the west, a bit maybe but not massively. If you are a troublemaker then you are going to have problems.

Also please feel free to prove me wrong, but I'm pretty sure the majority of the tourist deaths you mention are from motorbike accidents. If you don't ride one you obv swerve that risk too........

Cliffs- Don't cause trouble and don't ride a motorbike and you are pretty safe imo.........

lol.same ;o

3 "Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard, Vanilla Ice Cream, 5 Pound"
; $41.21

Sold by: The Vitamin Shoppe
2 "Controlled Labs - Purple Wraath Juicy Grape, 542 g powder"

I'm also looking to take PW with me and some whiteflood/green mag.

Is it ok to take them sealed in my luggage, I heard from a few people they'll take all supplements of you at customs?

Nah, friends of mine brought me 5lb cans of whey supplements before never had any issue

Yes, the majority are motorbike accidents, but there are also a lot of other deaths from things that don't happen in the west - e.g. food poisoning, boat collisions etc.

This is not true though. You still have to use Thai roads whether you ride a motorbike or not. Unless you never leave your apartment..Thai roads are dangerous for pedestrians, motorcyclists and auto drivers.

Most people do ride motorbikes though, since they are the most convenient and cheapest way to get around.

Of course it's all relative since we comparing countries against each other. But sorry no, Thailand is not "relatively safe" since it is actually in the top 10 most unsafe countries. The only way Thailand could be considered "relatively safe" is if you were comparing it to Columbia, Mexico or Sub-Saharan Africa.

Please address this, as I think this is the major reason for the difference in murder rate. I don't get into scrapes, so personally for me I don't think the dangers are that much worse than the west, can't speak for others..........

'The simple fact of life in Thailand is what would probably be simple skirmishes and fisticuffs in the west often leads to a very bloody end and death in Thailand. For a normal person who never gets into scrapes I don't think it is that much less safe than the west, a bit maybe but not massively. If you are a troublemaker then you are going to have problems'

I still disagree. The reason for the difference is the lack of rule of law, the same reason for the high murder rates in places like S Africa or Columbia. You see tourists being seriously assaulted because the people involved know nothing will happen to them.

You can have a person killed in Thailand for less than $500 usd. The reason it's so cheap is that the chances of being caught are so low. Corrupt, racist policing results in lawless society.

Yes but those people get assaulted and killed for $500 because they have done something wrong. The violence is not random, I still maintain if your a sensible person and don't fk with the locals its pretty safe. I'm not saying its the same as the west, of course its still higher all things considered but not double the risk as your figures quoted. If your an ass then that's different..........

I think you're kidding yourself. You don't have to go looking for trouble to find it in Thailand. Crimes against tourists are commonplace.

http://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...h-ao-nang.html

I can link you to lots of stories of bad crime from UK newspapers if you wish...........

This is what I'm saying though, if your silly enough to do stuff like this then you have only got yourself to blame.

I still maintain that if you use your common sense the risks aren't massively higher in my experience. Show me all the stats you want, but they are misleading for someone like me who never gets into disagreements with locals, doesn't ride a motorbike and has a reasonable amount of common sense as to where/where not to go to avoid being mugged or worse.........

Its all about level of risk, the way I conduct myself minimises that risk, that is not the same for everyone though and I accept that.

Obviously if you know all the no-go areas and take precautions then you are less likely to be a victim of crime.

That doesn't mean it's a safe place though, does it? It just means you are aware of the risks and are taking adequate precautions. Which is in fact the entire reason I brought it up in this thread to begin with. People planning on going to Thailand should be aware of the risks - someone blindly giving Thailand a "9" for safety and proclaiming it "One of the safest places in the world" is misleading and potentially dangerous.;

I'd say that most people would suss out the common sense approach after being here a couple of months max. I'd say the biggest danger for people here alongside motorbike accidents is getting into scrapes when drunk. That is something you can't really teach people tbh, in my experience people are either asses or not when drunk and you can't really learn that so much. The people that are asses when drunk will almost certainly have a problem at some point or other.

Anyway, we are obv not going to agree fully here and I don't want to keep going round in circles with this discussion

thank god that's over. thanks, Raaaaaaaaaaaaj

Disagree, the single biggest danger is property crime. Tourists getting robbed/pickpocketed/stuff stolen from hotel rooms etc is so common it's rarely even discussed. It still happens though.

Yeah for sure, but I thought we were discussing the more serious stuff...........

When I said one of the safest countries in the world I meant for tourists and foreigners, not for everybody who lives there.

If the infant mortality rate (or whatever) in a country is high, that doesn't make it any less safe for me.

Once again, Mr. Spiv, I think you are putting way too much stock in what you read on blogs and random websites. If I judged my safety based upon ThaiVisa headlines I would never leave my condo.

Please explain how this constitutes danger. Thanks.

Surely the objective of this thread is to rate certain places according to the criteria listed by the OP?

If they can't defend the ratings they have given why bother posting? I could make up some untrue opinions about a place I have never been to, apply random ratings to everything out of 10 and post it, but it wouldn't be very useful information for the people who are reading it and hoping to get an idea of what the area is really like.

It's less terrible than using no statistics, and proclaiming a country "one of the safest places in the world" despite all the evidence to the contrary.
I have lived in Thailand for nearly 8 years, I have seen the stuff I am talking about first hand. I love it, but I don't try and kid myself that it is one of the safest places in the world.

How safe you "feel" is completely irrelevant. Most men aged 18- 30 think they are immortal, indestructible and nothing bad can ever happen to them. And yet, they are the most at risk group for accidental death or injury and for being the victims of violent crime. Pretty much everyone reading this is thinking to themselves, "oh none of that stuff applies to me, I'm a very good rider and one of the best fighters I know. I'll be fine".

No, it isn't. In the OP he said 'how scary'. In other words, 'how safe do you feel'.

Most people feel safe when they visit (or live in) Thailand. We all know you don't feel safe, probably because you spend so much time reading sensationalist blog posts and news articles about how unsafe it is.

I've probably travelled around more than most and Thailand is one of the countries I feel safer in tbh...........

I've felt way less safe in parts of the US than I ever have in Thailand.