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06-09-2020 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
As a poker player I don't think that would be a very good bet.
Thanks for your input.

I did realize from reading through the last page or so of the thread that you almost surely know more about Sout Korea than I do.

So out of curiosity: Why do you think they won't relax the restrictions by early October?

That would be considerably slower than other countries which have a low covid-19 reproduction rate and a low number of active cases. And Korea is a very export-oriented economy. As the economy ramps back up, travel is required to facilitate its international trade. Tourism is a significant sector of the economy for South Korea as well.
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06-30-2020 , 12:06 PM
Hello everyone. I am currectly living in the U.S. and married to a Korean woman. We are thinking of making a move to Seoul in about 1 year from now. Anybody here have experience with private English language tutoring and building a customer base.I hear private tutors make ~50usd/hr. It would be a great side hustle to do like 10-15hrs per week along with some PLO cash Speaking of PLO, I can just download the clients and start playing right away? How do deposits/withdrawals/taxes on gambling work there?
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06-30-2020 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CoronaOrCoors
Hello everyone. I am currectly living in the U.S. and married to a Korean woman. We are thinking of making a move to Seoul in about 1 year from now. Anybody here have experience with private English language tutoring and building a customer base.I hear private tutors make ~50usd/hr. It would be a great side hustle to do like 10-15hrs per week along with some PLO cash Speaking of PLO, I can just download the clients and start playing right away? How do deposits/withdrawals/taxes on gambling work there?

Tutoring is possible but it's not easy. It's not like the late 90s where any white face could command $50 an hour. Do you have a uni degree? Do you have experience? Do you actually know how to teach? is your class worth $50 an hour? It's not like you're going to step of the plane and people will just start throwing money at you. I know some people that build up good schedules of private tutoring classes and make decent money but they are good at what they do, the work ****ing hard, and they hustle.

There's also a large element of luck involved. You might find one student who recommends you to all their friends and you might quickly build a network. Or you might have to struggle and claw and advertise multiple times just to get a single student that quits after a month and leads to nothing.

Is your wife Korean a Korean citizen? if so you can get an F6 spousal visa which makes it legal for you to work anywhere (most people on work visas are restricted to working in a single work place) which gives you some advantage. You can make your own ads and post them around apartment buildings or I've heard there may be some aps you can use but I don't know what they are.

But basically if you don't have an exceptional skill set or an exceptional work ethic I wouldn't count on making money this way. It should be pretty easy to get part-time work teaching kids in an academy but here you should be expecting pay more in the $20-$25 range (and I see advertised jobs offering much less).

As for online poker it's what Stars calls a "grey market". Deposit/withdrawal from a Korean bank is next to impossible so your best bets are Crypto or Skrill. Gambling is illegal here so, no tax and you probably don't want to brag to much about your online winnings. That said Stars and other sites do operate here (although Party doesn't).

There are also casinos open to foreign passport holders that have poker rooms, as well as underground Korean games that seem to go through waves of strong illegality to mild illegality. At the moment we seem to be going through a period of mild illegality with rooms operating quite openly but masquerading as non-cash gambling businesses.
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07-01-2020 , 09:32 AM
^^Thanks a lot dogarse, that was very informative. Yes she is a citizen so the F6 visa sounds perfect. Teaching English seems to me to be the best side hustle option for me right now. I am currently in the process of completing a TEFL certificate. I don't have a bachelors which means I would be unable to teach in a Korean public or private school(I think Korea and China require a bachelors whereas most other SEA countries do not). Also I would prefer to limit the teaching to maybe 10-20 hours per week as poker would definitely be my main source of income.

Ultimately the goal is to open an Irish bar in Seoul. I have some contacts out there in the industry but I need to have more capital before I start that process. I absolutely love the city. I have been only been there once in the autumn of 2018 but it was an amazing experience and can't wait to go back. NYC is pretty fu&*^d up right now and don't see myself living here long-term.

As for the poker, it seems like it shouldn't be a problem then. Hopefully the live PLO games are juicy Are there any other jobs for a 30/yo white guy with no degree in Korea that pay an hourly worth my while?? I know it's a stretch but you never know...
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07-12-2020 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CoronaOrCoors
Are there any other jobs for a 30/yo white guy with no degree in Korea that pay an hourly worth my while?? I know it's a stretch but you never know...
English academy teacher is your best bet IMO. What did you do for a living in NY? Why are you even moving? Because I mean tutoring is like a temporary thing. Can you see yourself in Korea for the long term?
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08-06-2020 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dogarse

As for online poker it's what Stars calls a "grey market". Deposit/withdrawal from a Korean bank is next to impossible so your best bets are Crypto or Skrill. Gambling is illegal here so, no tax and you probably don't want to brag to much about your online winnings. That said Stars and other sites do operate here (although Party doesn't).
hello guys, have a few questions as I will be staying in Korea.

1. Can you deposit/withdraw using a Skrill account you created in the US in Korea? What are the steps of withdrawing/depositing using crypto? Can you use Coinbase?

2. I read in order to install the client you use a VPN but what are the documents you need to create a Stars account? So far I have a Korean bank statement listed .
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08-08-2020 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pohker
hello guys, have a few questions as I will be staying in Korea.

1. Can you deposit/withdraw using a Skrill account you created in the US in Korea? What are the steps of withdrawing/depositing using crypto? Can you use Coinbase?

2. I read in order to install the client you use a VPN but what are the documents you need to create a Stars account? So far I have a Korean bank statement listed .
I'm not good on the banking stuff, all I know is it's difficult, especially for non-Koreans. I do know that foreigners can't have Korean crypto accounts linked to their bank accounts.

For stars ID just the usual stuff. Utility bills etc. All my stuff is in my wife's name so I just ended up getting the bank to print out an official statement and add my address in English and I sent them a scanned copy of my Alien Registration Card with a translation (uncertified) that my wife made. That was sufficient.

By the way, my wife is a professional translator so hit me up if you need anything translated. I can accept Stars haha.
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08-08-2020 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
I'm not good on the banking stuff, all I know is it's difficult, especially for non-Koreans. I do know that foreigners can't have Korean crypto accounts linked to their bank accounts.

For stars ID just the usual stuff. Utility bills etc. All my stuff is in my wife's name so I just ended up getting the bank to print out an official statement and add my address in English and I sent them a scanned copy of my Alien Registration Card with a translation (uncertified) that my wife made. That was sufficient.

By the way, my wife is a professional translator so hit me up if you need anything translated. I can accept Stars haha.

Since your account was under your wife(assuming she is Korean), how did you go about withdrawing/depositing? Was it through her bank account? Isn't this risky as online gambling is technically not permitted in Korea?
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08-08-2020 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pohker
Since your account was under your wife(assuming she is Korean), how did you go about withdrawing/depositing? Was it through her bank account? Isn't this risky as online gambling is technically not permitted in Korea?
My bank Korean account is mine under my name, I just meant that it was difficult to come up with the usual utility bills, phone bills etc that Stars usually wants. If your appartment and bills are in your name you can just use those, you should have no problem verifying your account.

I used to just withdraw to my Australian account but since Stars pulled out of Australia I just haven't withdrawn. Instead I've been losing it all T.T

If I did want to withdraw however I guess Stars --> Skrill --> Australian account would be the way I would do it.
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08-09-2020 , 12:03 PM
Anyone know if the casino's in Seoul have social distancing of some kind in place? Is it mandatory to wear a mask? How is the poker scene? Is it still full ring? I'd imagine there are a lot less tourists because of the mandatory 14-day quarantine.
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08-10-2020 , 07:25 PM
From what I heard; Must wear a mask at all time, 5 handed max and game never runs higher than 1-3.
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08-12-2020 , 02:12 AM
A quick bit of research and apparently opening a Netteller or Skrill account in Euros is the best way to move money between a Korean bank account and an offshore gambling site.
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08-16-2020 , 11:58 AM
I need some advice about Pokerstars and Korea.

I've been traveling around Asia for a couple years, mainly staying in South Korea. I'm a Canadian Citizen and I'm allowed to stay in Korea for 6 months. I've been grinding mainly on Stars this year in Korea. I've had no issues playing and cashing out smaller amounts to my Canadian bank account throughout 2020.

Last month I tried cashing out $4000 and they asked me for ID and documents. I sent them all the necessary documents and after 3 weeks, they verified me.

A day after that I'm trying to withdraw a larger amount. They locked my withdrawal again and they are asking me to send documents that prove my Korean address. I'm living here on a tourist visa and I have no bank account or document that I can provide Pokerstars that show my name and address in Korea. I emailed their security team explaining my current situation and I'm waiting for a response.

Anyone else been in a similar situation? I'm kind of worried.
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08-17-2020 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ab5olution
I need some advice about Pokerstars and Korea.

I've been traveling around Asia for a couple years, mainly staying in South Korea. I'm a Canadian Citizen and I'm allowed to stay in Korea for 6 months. I've been grinding mainly on Stars this year in Korea. I've had no issues playing and cashing out smaller amounts to my Canadian bank account throughout 2020.

Last month I tried cashing out $4000 and they asked me for ID and documents. I sent them all the necessary documents and after 3 weeks, they verified me.

A day after that I'm trying to withdraw a larger amount. They locked my withdrawal again and they are asking me to send documents that prove my Korean address. I'm living here on a tourist visa and I have no bank account or document that I can provide Pokerstars that show my name and address in Korea. I emailed their security team explaining my current situation and I'm waiting for a response.

Anyone else been in a similar situation? I'm kind of worried.
I could only think they locked your account because you have been playing in Korea under your Canadian PS account(assuming you created your PS account in Canada). They might be taking extra security measures in your withdrawals since it might seem a little suspicious. Would like to know the outcome of the situation as I'm curious to know how it works for non Korean citizens playing PS in Korea.
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08-29-2020 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pohker
I could only think they locked your account because you have been playing in Korea under your Canadian PS account(assuming you created your PS account in Canada). They might be taking extra security measures in your withdrawals since it might seem a little suspicious. Would like to know the outcome of the situation as I'm curious to know how it works for non Korean citizens playing PS in Korea.
My account was still playable just the withdrawal was locked. I was able to play and take out $<1000 many times throughout the year. Even a $4000CAD withdrawal was verified by just providing my Canadian documents. Right after I got verified for the $4000, I tried withdrawing a 5 figure amount. That's when they demanded proof of address in Korea.

I was able get Korean documents by going to the office downstairs and asking them to write the utility bill under my name. Had to notarize and translate the document because it was in Korean. Eventually, I got the money.

Pokerstars has some hidden 30 day withdrawal limit and if you surpass that amount, they will go through a full check on your account. And when they see you logging in Pokerstars regularly in Korea, that's when they will ask you for Korean documents. As long as you can provide a document that shows your name and address. It should be fine to play in Korea.

Last edited by Ab5olution; 08-29-2020 at 03:09 AM.
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09-06-2020 , 08:36 PM
Anyone want to sell stars for won?
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12-21-2020 , 05:39 AM
Hey, does anyone knows how to make a deposit if i want to make a bet in Korea? Which company should i use?
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01-05-2021 , 09:26 AM
Hey guys, I just moved from New jersey to Korea for work recently. Im a 2-5 regular at the borgata, sugar house, parx and harrahs chester but the live games here in korea seem to be dead due to covid. I've been reading through this forum about depositing money into your stars account but for some reason skrill wont let me deposit money here. If anyone has stars money near seoul theyre willing to sell plz lmk. I can meet you in any casino lobby or public setting for the transaction, thanks in advance.
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01-19-2021 , 07:20 PM
im also looking to buy some stars for won if anyone wants to meet in seoul/songdo seems like ways to deposit in korea are drying up these days
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03-30-2021 , 02:05 PM
Has anyone been to WH / played live since they reopened?

2/5 reg from D.C looking for some action..
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01-23-2023 , 02:14 AM
Updating for those interested in Seoul, Korea.

Walkerhill in the east part of seoul is back open and 9 handed. There's one other in Seoul, near Incheon airport.

Went right when it opened back up and the rake is now 10% up to 20,000 KRW per hand
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01-30-2023 , 08:00 AM
Is that beatable?
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01-31-2023 , 01:18 AM
I remember the first time I went to Korea I flew in during the morning and was going to stay with a friend for a few days. He was at work so I went straight to the casino to play some poker until he was done.

Poker wasn't running because it was 9 am or so. So I figured f it I'd play some blackjack. Earlier that week, I'd been exchanging Yuan into Won every day for the daily limit as they were doing currency controls then so I couldn't exchange more than like 5k at a time and many times the banks didn't have more than a few hundred dollars worth of Won on hand. As a result of this, I had several different envelopes of Won from as little as $200.

So I pull out an envelope that appears to have about 2 million won in it, I recall that it's about 10k won to a dollar so this is about $200 bucks so sure let's play with that.

I then go on a bit of a sun run and I'm soon sitting on like 20 million won, lol i just turned 200 into 2k, easy money amirite, i also take advantage of the free drinks so I can meet up with my buddy with a proper buzz going on so the last hour I just soak up all the free drinks I can while trying to play the minimal because now that I'm drinking i know i will make mistakes in the count and in playing perfect strategy

now it's nearing time to meet with my buddy, i'm up to 23 million, so i color up and have these 1 million won chips and on my way to the cage just for the lols stop and put 1 million here and a 1 million there on random table games, this was right when jerry yang won WSOP and did his "I bet 1 million" thing so it was largely in homage to him where I'd make a real douchey ass of myself even trying to say it like he did, and with all the booze i'd been drinking it definitely felt hilarious and well worth the hundred dollars I was likely punting

so of course i lose all those, then head to the cage with an even 20 million, cash out for 20 million won in a much bigger envelope and am kinda tilted they didn't use bigger denominations like the banks did but whatever i don't speak korean and it's easier to just go along with it and off I go to meet up with my friend

we get dinner and I'm looking at the prices on the menu and saying "holy **** korea is even cheaper than china, so many things here cost less than a dollar" it was at that point that I discovered I was casually betting 1k on things like number 23 on my way out the door and felt like an idiot

the notion i punted off 3k on table games that I otherwise never play hurt way more than the knowledge i still made 18k in a day of blackjack
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08-09-2023 , 09:26 AM
What is the tax situation for tournament cashes at APT Incheon? I heard kinda mixed stuff but sounds potentially bad...
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08-25-2023 , 11:06 AM
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What is the tax situation for tournament cashes at APT Incheon? I heard kinda mixed stuff but sounds potentially bad...
Hey, gizzleduur I have no idea about the tax situation, I'd imagine its different depending on which country you are from. Do you know if there's any cash games running during the series? Specifically PLO? I checked pokeratlas but they have no info and don't think it's on bravo either.
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