Not really

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What do you think of Paul B's post in another forum? He used to be one of the earlier posters here but stopped posting in this thread. I think if you don't get involved with the locals too much, don't play live and live in an expat area or you clearly look busto / live modestly like k2d you have nothing to worry about, but that's just my opinion.

Overly melodramatic, same guy that called dante a rapist for telling a mamasan a bargirl only banged him once not twice

All the du30 stuff just isnt going to affect the average foreigner what so ever. Seems to be going a bit over the top about it all. The only drug-infested area a foreigner would be going to in manila is ermita. And thats always had trouble of being robbed/wrong place wrong time before he even come to power. It may have even got better there as quite a few hookers who i know from the area have stopped taking shabu, so i imagine a loot of people have also and maybe its got safer.

Not like any of us is going into tondo


question, if hes getting stared at, how does he know its because they thought he was only in country to **** their women? maybe its becuse hes a pogi white guy. Or an ugly joe



more risk of gtting mugged by ladyboys near burgos. (Actually been growing number of reports of this lately lol)


And du30 isnt going to last very long. Itll be maximum one term.


"The difference now is that people can actually shoot you in a dark alley for whatever reason and put a "Pusher Ako" sign on your body and you'll get written off as a bystander in the drug war. It doesn't matter if you're involved in drugs or not. That's the unfortunate reality of the Philippines right now."

this is true for filipinos. Would be a ****storm if this happened to foreigner surely?

i want to play 100/200nlhe. Best place CoD or solaire? Ive never played in casino before. What are the regs like there? they snobby or? Reading cambodia thread made me want to check out live scene.

Some people like to act all cool and big time, they can't just say oh I'm moving to another country to try something new. They're worried people will think they failed somehow, so they come up with a bunch of justifications and grandiosely announce their exit stage left, when no one really cares.

There will have been Thailand expats complaining about the extrajudicial killings of drug addicts and dealers there around 2002-3 under Thaksin, same thing as is happening now in PI. And then Facebook and the iPhone came out shortly after, and everyone was moaning about how it was killing the bar scene and making girls bitchy because they had tons of options. But we'd all love to go back to those years.

Costa Rica really beginning to look attractive to me.

Don't get me started on this ****. The real glory days were when Thai girls didn't even have mobile phones, what a time to be alive that was.

He's korean american. I'm not sure what the average perception of koreans is in the pines.

Foreigners get shot all the time in Angeles if they own a business (mostly hooker related ones), property or decided to invest into a business.

Your average retiree / monger gets left alone though.

If the risk of getting robbed or shoot somewhere in Europe in the middle of the day doing nothing wrong not being completely drunk is 0,001% it is 0,005% in the safe areas in Manila. Get drunk and walk alone somewhere in Europe in the middle of the night risk of bad things happen might be 5%, Manila 20%-30%.

My survival instinct awake in Manila and told me not to get involved with hookers and not to get drunk and just walk there like a headless chicken - aswell I had no need to do neither of them and was completely fine. I dont have experience of starting business there but 1) very likely it ends very -EV even by getting scammed alot of times 2) Some hooker business sounds as risky as smuggling drugs for mafia - probably even riskier.

Yeah from what i have heard starting a business in PI is not the best idea. However there are quite a few successful westerners living there who have owned and run business for years both in and outside of the red-light industry, however i guess horror stores far out weigh the successes.

Did Angeles City shut down and not announce it to anyone?

Anyone worried about their safety in SE Asia, a good general rule of thumb is "keep your head down". Don't do anything to get noticed. I've been living in Thailand for years and I've never felt threatened. Act the big shot or stick your nose where it doesn't belong and you'll find out where you stand real quick. Keep your head down, be a nobody among nobodies, no ploblem.

No, it's true for foreigners too. It's incredibly easy to have someone killed in Philippines, and with over 1000 murders a month, overworked police and approximately 0% chance that anyone would come forward to help the police, the chances of getting away with it are close to 100%.

This isn't because Duterte though, and it was the same way before he took office. Murder is cheap in Philippines, so don't piss people off and stay in safe areas.

i have a very hard time believing that if a white guy who is likely to be known by everyone to not be doing or dealing drugs was found with a sign "pusher ako" on the streets dead in makati/fort that it will be a throwaway murder (bystander of drug war) like other filipinos. I think it would be very big news tbh.


Ill be amazed if those very small politicians who has balls to stand up to du30 wouldnt be using that kind of murder as a way to try convince people that EJK is wrong and how its going to hit tourism etc

I think this is good advice no matter what part of the world you travel to. I act/dress completely differently when I'm in a third-world nation than when I'm home in Vegas. It takes practice to keep yourself from pulling your iPhone out in public

I wasn't really referring to flashing an iPhone etc. If showing your phone is a problem then you probably shouldn't be anywhere near where you are. I was talking about foreigners sticking their nose where it doesn't belong and playing the big shot. For example, getting involved in the real estate business in Thailand...many foreigners end up dead. Also doing things that cause an Asian to lose face can be a very quick death penalty. Foreigners have to understand that we are tolerated as long as we are here to spend our money and get the **** out. If you hang around here and try to make a living by competing with the locals you are asking for trouble. It's best to to stay unnoticed and just act like a tourist on holiday. They won't bother you if you open a bar though. Many foreigners lose their life savings opening a bar so they are happy to watch you burn your money.

If you've never traveled to a country where an iPhone is a liability then you haven't traveled nearly enough.



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Not really sure how you see that playing out. Who exactly would you go to? Who exactly would you rely on to do something about it and follow through on their promises? Who is even available to help you, given the sheer number of murders there? And then which of these people are (1) not already paid off and (2) not going to shake you down for a payoff?

I don't think you have realistic expectations on how the police work in foreign countries and what makes "news" there.


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I've been to 60 countries and counting LOL, some of the worst ****holes on earth(I was kidnapped once in West Africa). I wasn't talking about flashing wealth though, that is basic common sense for most travelers. I was talking about another aspect. Its the kind of thing you have to spend time in Asia to understand.

Flying to capital cites and staying at the Hilton isn't "traveling", bro


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think paul's post is definitely overdramatic, cant ever recall getting death stares from dudes

however i do agree that the girl scene has deteriorated over the last few years, still better than most places tho

I'm genuinely curious about this - in what way would you say it's deteriorated?




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i dunno it could just be that im either A) not putting in the same effort I used to or B) not as thrilled about having any non fat girl hop on for a ride cuz im burned out of SEA girls but it seems like they are more work, less interested in foreigners, less likely to come straight to the room

also definitely feels like i see less hot ones around, not that i ever saw a ton of hot girls but it feels to me like too many of the sexiest girls have been scooped up already, maybe moved with their husbands to random places around the world, maybe working in other countries as hostesses, or just laying in bed all day getting all the affection they need from facebook likes

i blame all the *******s who started blogging about how great the place was to make a small profit, ruined it for the rest of us

So it seems like you're referring mostly to the "dating" scene as opposed to mongering. I guess I took the initial post (the other quote) to be referring to the mongering scene and that dying out just didn't make any sense.


Oh, I see what you did there . . .